The Vehram System is truly brilliant!

[OBEvideoguy]

Hey everyone,

It has been many months since I last posted on this forum. Many of you may recall me as the creator and destroyer of AstralSource.com

I have been practicing OBEs for over 8 years, after having an NDE. After 2 years of diligent practice, I had, maybe, half a dozen experiences. They blew my mind; the most awesome thing I have ever experienced. I then got a little complaisant, cocky actually, and felt I had mastered the technique. Just to let you let you know, my OBEs only happened while sleeping – something to keep in mind while reading my insights below...

Because I stopped practicing, I stopped having OBEs, and my daily life started to consume all of my energy. I returned to practice 2 years ago, on and off, with little success.

Recently I stumbled upon a copy of The Vehram System (vehram.com) stashed away in my backup hard drive. I studied it carefully and have new hope that OBEs are within my grasp again.

I’ve been working on some fresh interpretations and alternate methods of the Vehram System over the past week.

Before sleep, I reinforced that I would awake numerous times during the night/early morning hours, and it has worked 5 nights in a row. I think this has been successful due to my conviction that the basic concept behind the Vehram System is sound. My intention has powered my subconscious mind to obey my command. Only by studying the System was I able to generate the enthusiasm to produce results. The System is designed that way, and I highly recommend downloading it.

Before sleep last night, while in bed, I picked a position that kept me awake longer, into the hypnogogic stage - better than any other method so far! This is not in the System but something I came across on my own. I'm sure I'm not the first one to discover it. I lay half on my side, half on my back. Not quite cuddled up in the fetal position but halfway relaxed on my side. I didn't stay fully awake, like when lying on my back, or crashed into sleep, like when I’m curled up on my side. I felt that consciousness lasted longer than usual, being more aware of the hypnogogic. I am quite confident that I will be able to select a perfectly balanced body position for prolonging the hypnogogic stage in time.

Following the System, at the right time, when I breathed out, I would relax my body - when I breathed in, I would imagine drawing energy from the Vehram Array.  The Vehram System .pdf download is only ten bucks and well worth it. I have intentionally not given the system away here because the creator deserved the credit and business. The 34 pages of knowledge is tantamount to breakthrough OBE technology!

I will be practicing this new method for the next several weeks and update this post.

I would very much like to discuss the system in detail, via PM, with others who have studied the ebook.

In conclusion, I think approaching an OBE from the hypnogogic window of 3 - 10 seconds, numerous times a night, is so incredibly exciting. Finally, the Zone has been mapped! Gone, for me, are the endless hours of pre-sleep practice sessions, week after week, month after month, year after year!

Don

[dbmathis]

Welcome back OBEvideoguy,

I just bought the book after reading your post here. I will read it over the next few days and let you know what I think. I will be more than happy to discuss results via PM.

Thanks for this information.

Best Regards

David

[phxsun]

Very much glad you've made it back OBEvideoguy.

Its always good to have more incite, and I will be checking out The Vehram System.
I do have a question for you. If your waking up several time during the night, how do you get any sleep? Do you not feel tired and sleepy all day long?

[dbmathis]

I finished reading the book at approximately 8:30 PM and then went to bed around 9:30 PM. I fell asleep at 10:30 PM while running the mantra "I will wake up at 3:00 AM" through my until I fell asleep.

Sure enough I woke at 1:15 AM which is my normal 3:15 AM because normally go to sleep around 12 AM. I began the breathing technique outlined in the book and created the sensation of getting heavy as described. I continued this for about a minute and then I clearly remember passing into the hypnagogic state. My body got heavy and I felt my body lose the ability to move and I was left in a totally paralyzed state

While laying in blackness I did exactly what the book suggests. I willed energy from the Vehram array and directed that energy into my body and within less then a second very strong vibrations consumed me.

I was not able to exit at first so I relaxed and then rolled out to the left side and found myself standing next to my bed. Everything was all distorted at first so I asked for total awareness and clarity and almost instantly I was seeing the room and the house EXACTLY how it is in waking life.

I made a conscious effort to stay as close to the physical world as possible this time and then I walked down stairs, through the closed front door and outside. I continued walking until I was out in the street in front of my house. I turned and looked northeast towards downtown Austin which is 6 miles away and hidden behind trees. I commanded my vision to zoom in on the skyline and instantly I could see the buildings with crystal clarity. I was completely amazed by this new ability and was very excited. I looked down at the street and I could see every detail of the pavement.

Next I turned and faced southwest because I remembered once again that I told my friend that I would visit him next time I was out of body for validation purposes. I started imagining his face and for some reason I felt a rushing and could not stay focused. I woke up and it was 1:20 AM. I went down stairs and wrote up a skeleton version of this and then went back to bed to try again. I could not go back to sleep after the experience.

This new found system seems to work very well and I really don't know what to think about it yet. I would like to do some validations and then report back my findings.

[SkepticBoy]

Yes please try and work on some validations as you are able to view your physical surroundings very exact.

[dbmathis]

Oh, I believe that the astral world is very real, in fact I think it's much more real than waking life. The validations will be with the energy system itself. For example I would like to reach out and feel the orbs power flow through me.

 

[OBEvideoguy]

If your waking up several time during the night, how do you get any sleep? Do you not feel tired and sleepy all day long?

As it is, without using the System, I wake up a couple of times each night to answer nature's call. Waking up 5 - 10 times a night is no problem really, as the time to practice getting into the hypnogogic state takes less than 15 seconds. No signs of sleep deprivation so far.

Don

[SkepticBoy]

So what is the fundamentals that make this Verham system please. How is it different to other techniques? ty.

[dbmathis]

You Should read the book, but the fundamental difference is that the astral body and any other vehicle that your consciousness creates is created by 6 energy orbs that surround you. These orbs bind your body to your soul and your soul to other bodies such as the astral body.

Plus I found that the technique works much better than any that I have tried. I suggest spending 10 bucks and buying the book.

[newmethod]

I wake up a couple of times each night to answer nature's call.
Don

What's the reason behind the above. Nocturia 2-3+ times a night. Are you on medication that would cause this otherwise if you didn't drink heaps of water/ETOH close to sleep i would be getting investigations done as to why nocturia more than 1x/night?

Is the Vehram System only useful for achieving OBE or can you incorporate it into other methods ie. Meditation etc

[OBEvideoguy]

Actually, yes, I am on medication where drinking lots of water is necessary, so yes, I do go to the bathroom often throughout the day and at night too.

Don

[dbmathis]

Hi

Have you read anything about the chakras or the "The Lattice"? Take a look at the video below, I think that the guy who discovered this Vehram system may be awakening to something others are awakening to as well.

http://emfworldwidestore.com/emfworldwide/en/media-gallery/ucl-3d-animation?phpLang=en

Feel free to PM any time.

Best regards

David

[OBEvideoguy]

I just checked out the link - Awesome! Almost identical energy array.

I emailed Vessen Hopkins, the creator of the Vehram Energy System, gave him the link, and invited him to join this thread on Astral Pulse. We shall see.

Don

[dbmathis]

Good idea OBEvideoguy.

It's funny you mention this because my friend Matt and I already reached out to him this morning about this very thing and here was Vessen's response.

From: Vessen Hopkins <vessen@vehram.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Subject: EMF and the Vehram Energy System
To: reikimatt@undisclosed.com

Thank you so much for taking the time to share information about EMF.

There would appear to be striking similarities in the Vehram Array and EMF, particularly in the lateral points located to the left and right, front and back of the body.  However, it is important to note that the 7th chakra is too close to the body  to be a part of this array as is the foot chakra.   Also, Chakras are generally considered to be centers within the body (most are) within which to focus energy and through which to channel the body’s spiritual energy.  They are not power sources in the sense that they generate the kind of energy that is being generated by the Vehram Array.  (Direct contact between the ethereal body and the Vehram Array causes massive shock to the ethereal body and these centers must therefore remain separate from the body, hence the Vehram Array’s external location)

It would appear that we may be  looking at two different poles of a spiritual magnet, if you will.  I have come to the conclusion over many years of practice and research into this energy system, that the Vehram Array is the source , or well-spring, of the energy that we in turn utilize through the chakras.  At the very least you have spurred my interest in EMF phenomenon and I will have to look deeper into this.

Of particular interest was the EMF lines and how they encompass the region outside the body, intersecting in points above the head and below the feet, as well as creating the intersecting crosses with branches to the front, left, back, and right.  My question would be, how are these lines established and are you able to draw energy from ALL of these external locations?  Is that energy drawn in along the paths indicated by the intersecting cross illustration? 

Something to consider: might it be possible that the foot chakra and the crown chakra are not chakras, but rather Vehram orbs – sources of the energy – while the chakras inside the body are true chakras, centers where the energy may be concentrated or focused, where it is then able to have corresponding affects on the individual spiritual centers of the body?

What an incredible facet of this phenomenon it would be if you were able to channel the amount of energy that is emanating from these individual power centers.  It is important to note that each of the Vehram Array’s power centers generate what I call an “ethereal-static discharge” upon contact with the ethereal body.  Direct contact results in an immediate jolt of such tremendous force that one cannot maintain or sustain the flow of energy for more than a split second.  The kind of power that emanates from just one of these orbs is equivalent, on an ethereal level, to the kind of power running through a 220-volt electric socket on the physical level.  You would experience about the same level shock in either case.

The chakras inside the body do not have the effect of causing severe ethereal-static shock by virtue of simply coming into contact with the ethereal body, and for this reason, clear distinctions must be drawn, but these distinctions only serve to help us better understand the nature of what we are dealing with.

You asked specifically if I would include information regarding EMF in the guide to help spur progress toward serious research.  I am always happy to help garner attention to worthy research endeavors and I would be more than happy to include information on this subject.  I will explore this in greater detail, as I do not write about topics that I have no actual experience to draw from.  It would appear, however, these topics may already be inextricably linked!

Thanks again for sharing this information.  May you find your heart’s desires at every turn in life.

Sincerely,

Vessen Hopkins

Author, “Out-of-Body Experiences: the Vehram Energy System”

[dbmathis]

Here is Vesson's last response about the chakras and how the Vehram system may fit into the studies of such.

I think that further discussion should go to PM.

I have thought about the issues and questions you raised and it occurs to me that we are dealing with a very peculiar set of phenomenon, here.  The chakras do in fact have differing vibrational qualities (the Vehram centers do not) and I believe represent the focal points through which we may channel Vehram energy.  Living in the physical universe, we are of course bound by the laws of physics, particularly the second law of thermodynamics which governs the conservation of energy.  While it may be argued that the ethereal is not physical, I would argue that the physical is ethereal.  What I mean by this is that the physical world is an extension of the ethereal.

The manner in which we are locked into the physical body is an issue that has to be considered here.  We are independent of the bodies we inhabit.  For example, your consciousness is not dependent on the body, ethereal or physical, for its own existence.  So the ethereal body is really a necessary manifestation that occurs as a result of the integration of consciousness into the physical body.  Through the ethereal we bind to the physical.  The ethereal is not consciousness, the ethereal body is not the soul and so is not, in and of itself, “spiritual.”

The ethereal most probably therefore must be at least moderately compatible with the existing laws assigned to the physical universe.  Conservation of energy is one of the laws of physics that has never been broken, and so I believe that energy comes from somewhere specific (in the physical world.)  The power that courses through our body, through the chakras must come from somewhere.  It, too, has a source.  The Vehram Array could well be the actual source of so-called “ethereal energies,” while the chakras are the power centers where this energy is channeled and focused for the purpose of opening and expanding conscious awareness, healing, etc.

Over the years of exploration into the Vehram Array, I have had many experiences where I have been able to examine the energy that comes from each of the points.  It is the same in each of the power centers.  In all of my experience, the Vehram Array has been used for the purpose of fueling the vibrational surge. However, it can be channeled through the body to obtain different results, exciting the physical organs. Therein lies the key to how these systems may be related.

If the Chakras are a system through which energy is channeled, the Vehram Array may be a source of the energy being channeled.  The spacing of the chakras above the head including the 9th through the 12th are of considerable interest and it is also of interest to note that the author on the website link made a distinction between the purpose of these higher level chakras and the lover level 0 through 8th. Normally these chakras are not active and were only recently discovered.  While new discoveries are coming to light, we must be careful to not dismiss something simply because we do not understand it, so I do not doubt that these exist.

It occurs to me that expanding the Vehram Array, outward, literally pushing the centers away from the body, might serve to energize these higher level chakras.

On the other hand, while it may appear on the surface that these chakras would interfere with the Vehram System’s configuration, it is not necessary that these energies even exist on the same dimensional level.  Scientists currently believe the physical universe consists of 11 different dimensions.  One might could argue that our consciousness is shifting into a slightly alternate dimension when we enter a state of ethereal, and it is quite feasible to also suggest that these systems could interact across multiple dimensions.  So we are essentially left needing further research to study how these systems may be linked and/or interact.

I am much more inclusive in my way of thinking than exclusive or dismissive.  I have every confidence that however these phenomenon manifest, they are not at contradictory odds with one another.  We must simply understand how they relate.

To address some of your questions specifically.  Each of the orbs are always the same size as all the others, although they may collectively change size.  As the orbs expand, the radiation field around these orbs may expand to engulf the body. This results in the onset of the vibrational surge, if the mind and body are in a state of hypnagogia.

In my own direct research, the intensity of the power emanating from these points have always felt uniform in nature.  If for instance the vibrations were barely present, then they would be that way throughout the body (this refers only to cases in which the onset of the vibrational surge occurred automatically upon entry into the hypnagogic-state, suggesting that the radiance was barely engulfing the body, but doing so relatively evenly from all directions.)  If they were there of a strong quality, you will feel them throughout your body evenly.  You can draw from each one or all of the orbs and you feel the same amount and kind of energy entering your body from all locations.  It is neither weaker nor of a differing vibrational quality regardless of where it was coming from.  It is interesting to note that the system does seem to operate as a collective, suggesting a universal driving mechanism governing its level of power.

I believe where we must draw distinctions between  these systems, the EMF and the Vehram Array, is in the unique purposes of these systems, the quality, nature, purpose of the vibrational energy(s) associated with them, and so I would have to make a clear distinction between 6 power centers generating the “vibrational surge,” used to separate consciousness from the body, and the system of focal point/channels through which we may achieve completely alternate functions relating to reiki energy work within the system of chakras.

While, it is also possible to project consciousness through the charged chakras, this would still require the vital release energy to be present either way.  Ultimately, I would have to conclude that these systems are separate but no more so than the ethereal body is separate from the physical.  They both work in tandem with one another and are complimentary.  I lean toward the idea that the Vehram System is the source of ethereal power which fuels the charging of the chakras and what we are seeing is the north and south pole of a magnet, so to speak.  The Vehram Array serves as the power source while the EMF may hold the true potential for this power beyond the out-of-body experience.

It is certainly a very interesting subject matter and I appreciate you bringing this to my attention.  It helps me understand answers to questions I have long held in terms of how this system may be governed.