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Author Topic: A very easy OBE technique that needs some fine tuning  (Read 12565 times)
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« on: September 30, 2012, 19:35:47 »

No matter how many years you have been practicing OBE's, it is very hard to have OBE's on a consistent daily basis. The techniques we have been taught work well for a small minority. But they don't work for the majority.

For the last few months, I have been working on fine tuning a very simple OBE technique that would be easy for the majority that required no special abilities or time to perform. I have been making a lot of progress towards my goal.

All you have to do is be tired with a clear mind upon going to sleep. This is the only requirement for success. You don't need vibrations, meditation, sleep paralysis, trance, intent, or any other requirement.

So far, there are four OBE exit positions that work well to achieve success with this method. The goal is before falling asleep, feel your energy body in a position that is little bit above the head, below the feet, in front of the body, or behind the physical body. Pick one of these positions and hold full awareness in that position.  

Hold this position while your physical body falls asleep. If successful, you will feel yourself in a state of blackness or in the bedroom, and then you will feel a jolt when your energy body gets re-united with the physical body.

You can get these results at the beginning of the night and any time in the middle of the night whenever you wake up and go back to sleep. You could potentially have multiple OBE's every night with very little effort.

This method needs some fine-tuning. There needs to be a way to stay out longer and to have less pull from the physical body. A small night light has helped me sometimes to avoid the blackness in the OBE. I have a small blue night light.

If anyone tries this method, please report any recommendations for improvement. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 00:44:52 »

That is very nice of you trying to help other people with your idea.  I will try it.  I have nothing to loose.  I will try it when I go to bed.  I realise you have to give it a chance for it to work.  I will try every night for a while.  If I am successful I will let you know.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 00:50:57 »

Thanks Astral Suzy.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 01:24:59 »

Interesting modification, which will shurely have some effects.

The concentration on points outside of the own body works sometimes very well increases the chance of an accidential obe. Concentration on the energy body before the actual exit phase increases also the chance of an accidential obe.

These methods work alone not really well. They work sometimes, but lead to lazyness of concentration and will loose effect fast if one uses them frequently. They should be used, after the common method in the respective night has already failed. A common method increases also the chance of accidential OBEs. The combination of both mehtods will bring more results.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2012, 01:33:25 »

I will only use that method when I go to bed.  I wake up about 3.00 am and that is when I practice to ap.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 21:06:16 »

Hi I like this idea and don't believe I've come across this one. Feeling your astral body just outside the physical and keep that concentration while falling asleep, sounds easy enough. Will try to night as I've just worked a 13hr shift and my body is real tired, will let you know how I progress.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 22:19:17 »

I am on it! Not real sure what you mean by energy body, have not done any energy work....
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 22:45:14 »

I am on it! Not real sure what you mean by energy body, have not done any energy work....

It would be the same thing as the soul.

Below is a picture to show what it would look like.

http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/images/Bi-location.jpe
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 22:56:21 »

Hi,
I attempted this technique last night with immediate success. Pushing the boundaries of conciousness outside the body is a new way of exit. I thought of the vehram energy centres and wondered if I entered these the vibrations would appear. No. However the blackness experienced seemed rather lacklustre in comparison to the familiar F21. It was lifeless by comparison yet had the non physical feel to it. Within this blackness you have no physical body awareness at all I found. It was quite noisy getting there. Infact it was constant noise, phrases of music, rushing air, waterfalls and noises that unnatural too.
I decided at this point to reverse the effect and see if I could enter SP. In doing this I became aware of my physical breathing autonomously. Going further the noisy backdrop dissapeared to silence. The physical awareness came next and the room noises as normal. No SP at all.
Full control of the body upon waking, boring, I wanted to get SP, to see if its really scarey.
Excellent experience all the same. Fine tuning, thats another story. I'll try again and see if it can be snagged. One thing is the strength of the pull into sleep. Thats very powerful. It a fight to keep conciousness in your hand the minuit you push outside of the body.
Have fun all.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 01:04:36 »

Congratulations Szaxx  smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 01:13:21 »

It would be the same thing as the soul.

Below is a picture to show what it would look like.

http://www.wingmakers.co.nz/images/Bi-location.jpe

A translucent me?
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 01:37:55 »

A translucent me?

Yes exactly. Everyone has this translucent image intermingled within their physical body.

This translucent you is a duplicate of your physical body. It has it's own set of consciousness which can separate from your physical body, while the physical consciousness stays with the physical body during the OBE to keep it functioning while sleeping.

This is a mind split OBE that is achieved with this technique.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 08:46:13 »

I tried this method in combination with my relaxation method:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/a_new_and_interesting_relaxation_method-t36154.0.html;msg298509

While i was counting with the second voice (read there to know about it) i was concentrated on a point some centimeters in front of my forehead. The next thing, which i remember, was a clear dream in which i started a crystal clear and (in relation to my other OBEs) unusually long OBE. I made during this OBE a lightning between my forefingers, which looked really interesting and feeled absolutely real. The method of concentrating on the energy body has potential.

If one does not know what energy body is, do the easy way. Concentrate on a point, which is just a bit outside of your body. I would suggest to concentrate also above the forehead and to watch with the eyes a bit upwards (this does also promote a litlle bit a accidential OBE).
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 12:20:34 »

Congratulations Proyect Outzone  smiley
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 21:02:35 »

 Last night I used Focus on the Vehram Energy system points outside of my body, the same ones I use for my Tetrahedral Shield, combined with project_outzone"s counting technique with a twist. I first focus on the orb points of the vehram system for about 10 minutes, then started counting from 1-20 and back down from 20-1 over and over again. I then started missing numbers purposely and just having my "inner voice" fit them in place.
 I don't know how long it took, but I became Consciously Aware that i was in a dark area, as my awareness started to kick in I saw it was my bedroom. Mary Jo and I were sleeping in bed and all of a sudden I started to talk with 2 entities that were in my room about my sleeping body. My room was much larger than it normally is though. It was like our bed was the total focus of the scene, with the rest of the room being in some other dimensional area, really hard to explain. My recall of the whole conversation is quite foggy, but this experience ended when one of the entities said it was time to awaken now because I needed to use the bathroom. I did and went to use the bathroom then came back to bed.
 Once back in bed, I did the focus on the points again and the counting up and down for a couple of minutes, then I was off again, this time awakening in a very vivid bizarre Lucid Dreams. At first i was watching the scene, then I realized I was in a Dream and started to experiment. this was a lot of fun, until Mary Jo briefly woke up and stirred around, that was enough to send me back to the Physical again. All night long I was awakening in my Dream state, a lot of them I don't have a lot of good recall on, but I did fill 3 pages of my Dream Journal in the morning.
 When I first started to focus on the energy points I found myself stuck in noticing. I didn't want to stay this aware, since it was about 4 am, so I started the counting instead. that kept me noticing in the 3D darkness again, so I just used the affirmation a couple of time "I am Lucid when I Dream". Then I just stopped the mental chatter and finally went to sleep. Every single one of my experiences had it's own level of awareness. My first scenario seemed like it was taking place in the RTZ, this one was the strangest of them all. This is the second OBE/Lucid Dream I have had in the RTZ this week now. The first had to do with feeling like something was "latching" onto my back, which Todd explained so eloquently and professionally, was my "Silver Cord" pulling me back into my body.
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 22:16:25 »

Hi,
Nice one Lion.
Im giving this another go tonight but this time I'll continue on and deepen the experience. Looks like Im missin out lol. Hopefully Ill not fall asleep...
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 22:53:06 »

Congratulations Lionheart  smiley
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2012, 02:19:31 »

There really seems to be much potential in this combination. I had another intersting, long and clear dream during my afternoon sleep.

Thanks todd421757 for suggesting the method. Without your suggest i would maybe never had the idea for this combination.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2012, 02:38:42 »

You are welcome Proyect Outzone.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2012, 04:46:56 »

Thanks todd421757 for suggesting the method. Without your suggest i would maybe never had the idea for this combination.
Yes, Todd and Project_Outzone Thanks are in order for both of you. This is truly what this website is all about. People working together to achieve the same goal. I would like to hear if more people are successful with this combo technique. We might be onto something really special here. I haven't tried this method from a totally Consciously Aware awake mode yet, but will test that in the future as well.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2012, 10:20:53 »

Hi,
The attempt was partially successful. I met the blackness and drifted into sleep. The difference is the dreams that follow this technique are vivid. There's lots of personal issues brought up and you can address these too. I answered some of my questions within the first dream and the clarity of the late 60's in my then environment was astounding. I remembered things and shown things that I had forgotten about. Even the smell of the inside of the oven ...
 A later dream took me to the mid 70's mostly watching events that happened.
After that I was in a countryside lodge with a task to perform. I can only renember teaching a few people there something they needed to get in their heads and it was a difficult thing to do...
The whole night seemed dedicated to teaching, first myself and then others.
This technique is really something. You must be glad to have posted it.
Top marks.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2012, 12:11:11 »

tried it last night, maybe I am just not understanding it, I should imagine my energy body a few inches above my physical body?

Never said I was the sharpest tool in the shed....
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2012, 14:15:51 »

Just concentrate on a point above your head. This techniqe is maybe helpful to learn concentrating on points outside of your body:

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(M.3.10) Concentration on points within and near of the own body A technique, which can support the application of other methods, is the concentration of a point in the own body or in the near of the own body. This method itself is probably not so really supernatural, but a good point fixation can support many supernatural abilities and is for many methods even necessary. It is a very tricky thing, wich can bring, in combination with other methods, quite interesting results. One concentrates first on a (free selectable) point in the body, just to feel, how exactly this place feels. If one changes now  the place, one notices, that the observed place is always point-like. It can be moved, like a point, through the entire body. Who already masters the energy method in part or entirely, might notice, that the energy feels diffrent by the moving of the observation point. If you master that, try to move the point outside of the body. The imagination to follow mentally a bee, can help. If one does this over short distances outside of the body, one notices, that the body areas unter the "bee" feel addressed, although the "bee" is over it. If one lets the "bee" now circling around the head, one notices a interesting sensation during strong approximations and accurate fixing. To get a better feel for the approach, one can also hold a pencil or something in the proximity of the head. In most cases one will feel a strange sensation, when it is brought very close to the body (without contact).
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2012, 16:15:30 »

 My better half was flopping like a fish out of water last night, lol. So unfortunately no favorable results!  wink
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2012, 08:09:16 »

Today i had another OBE, in which i appeared on a field and began to fly over some rivers. But my memory sadly ended at this point.

It is really awesome how effectively both parts of the method stack their effects.
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