AP Technique....Help Requested.

[Kerrblur]

Hey Glow,

    Thanks for the answers, And yes I have the 'Astral Dynamics' form RB.  It was a great book, but before this book, I havnt did nothing with OBE but just herd it on tv and had them(thought they were nightmares/dreams lol)  

  But lol again with the book, I had a hard time understanding it, but I have gotten to understand it now little more.  okay, with this line your visualizing,

- It is horizontally through you when sitting up, but technically Vertical when laying down?

-  You have done this while sitting down and while doing this technique? -  will your Astral Body automatically push out from the front or will it go out at any way?

-  if I am going to put my focus behind me, where Will i end up? lol  

[APGuy]

When you are going to birth do you imagine going backwards like your facing your body and when you're imagining of going to death you go forwards facing away from your body.  Also when you go along the line as it's created do you focus your conciousness in it like a tunnel.  Thanks in advance.[]

[glowsoftly]

Hi Ryan []

- It is horizontally through you when sitting up, but technically Vertical when laying down?

The line is horizontal but it doesn't go through you, depending on which time point (birth/death) you are trying to reach, it either comes out from your back or your front!

- You have done this while sitting down and while doing this technique? - will your Astral Body automatically push out from the front or will it go out at any way?

So far all exits have been from the front, slighty towards my left side, but hey it maybe different for you.

- if I am going to put my focus behind me, where Will i end up? lol

I find reaching either time point will project you forwards.

I hope that helps []
goodluck

[glowsoftly]

Hi APguy []

I'm a little confused what you mean? You don't face any direction? You focus your attention on the Solar plexus..until your attention is completly at that point then you move it forwards or backwards depending on which point you have decided to reach.

I hope I have understood you correctly...I'm not sure..let me know.
Thanks for giving it a go []

[APGuy]

quote:Originally posted by glowsoftly

Hi APguy []

I'm a little confused what you mean? You don't face any direction? You focus your attention on the Solar plexus..until your attention is completly at that point then you move it forwards or backwards depending on which point you have decided to reach.

I hope I have understood you correctly...I'm not sure..let me know.
Thanks for giving it a go []

I see.  I thought that it was a tunnel that you made a double in so I thought the double would face the same direction that the body is facing.  Now I think I understand.  You make a decision to focus your conciousness into your solar plexus and then symbolize your conciousness as a line.  You then stretch the line to either your place of birth or death from a 3^rd person view.  Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. When the line is going in search of the time what is surrounding it blackness, light, outer space with stars in the background etc.?  And does the line stay straight?

[glowsoftly]

Hi APguy []

When you are at the Solar plexus point...push your consciousness out towards your birth time point (this creates the line..as it moves towards that point). You don't have to make a line...when you move your consciousness create/imagine one behind it. I didn't make any background colour etc around it. Hope that helps.

Sorry guys...I should have attempted to write a detailed technique really before we started...my bad. I probaly wouldn't have been able to do that myself, you guys have all really helped me flesh this out with your questions [8D] many thanks

[Huwie]

If I may interject?

Robert Monroe's line-extending technique was apparently nothing more than a way of inducing the vibrational state.  I think the reason he did it was because he ended up looking upwards, in other words rolling his eyes back.  Robert Bruce mentions this also, and says it's just a way of making the vibrations stronger.

[glowsoftly]

WoW Huwie []

How Facinating......you just helped me out with something different I'm working on! Big Thankyou [:X] [8]

[Huwie]

Hehehe!  Erm....you're welcome? [|)]

[Kerrblur]

Glow,

     Okay, Got a question for yea, off the technique.  Before I go, your technique is rediculous!!! If I didnt have this one problem I think I would have projected!  

  Okay, When ever I go into a trance state, I get ridiculous ichy, 'somethings crawling on me' feelings, and in robert's book, he claims its the light trance state, honoestly thats where I'm stuck.  I have gotten to alot strong trances before and then I always tell myself ' OO! i know how i did that now' but then i never do, see I'm trying to learn by myself, i dont have any special books, but a few, so I basicly thought how to meditate myself and stuff heh.  How do I get past the Ichy stage?

[glowsoftly]

How do I get past the Ichy stage?

I have no idea...sorry.

[Risu no Kairu]

OK, you sit down, close your eyes, and have this line pop out of you, and focus on death or birth.

What do you do, thougH? Do you think "oh, I'm getting younger!" Do yo uthink "my birthday! My birthday!"

I don't understand how I'm supposed to focus on getting to my birth.

[glowsoftly]

He []
You don't think anything....just focus on moving your consciousness outwards (creating a line behind you) to the point in time of either your birth or your death.

[Risu no Kairu]

But what do I DO? Do I feel/see myself getting younger? Do I remember events from my life? Just picture myself as a baby? What?

I need more information than "go to your birth."

[Kerrblur]

GLOW,

     YOU ARE A GENIUS! I DID IT, I DID IT! AHHH.  OOOO man!!! I sat in my lazyboy chair and I did it, instantly my feet got heavy, then my calves felt like they were have a cramp(chlly horse) after I finally got my trance working.  HAH I was spinning like I never spinned before!!! ooo dont get me wrong, i had the spinning sensations but not like this! this technique is instant almost.

  I sat in the lazyboy, and imagined I was connected to a line like you said, but my mind wouldnt work wid it, so I just imagined i was hooked to some kind of line, lol and imagined me going backward on  what i called in my head, a 'time line' as I moved back,

 It was earlier in time and at the end, lol my birth like you said, but i didnt lol haha imagine i was being born or anything haha. It is hard to type what I did, but ill say it and make a exmaple. hmm, okay! i got it maybe, tell me if you understand this.  Before I tried this technique I tried figureing out what you ment, and I thought It might work if I treat this technique like a game, and every game has rules, so I set some rules for myself  that this line would be 'the line of time' and when I would start I would already know without trying to visualize anything, as I followed this line further behind me that the time line would 'infact' be earlier in the past to the point of birth at the end.  So in my head all I did was pretend I'm going backwards with this line I couldnt see 'already knowing' that this is going back in time and when I deside to stop was the birth point. kinda like when you drive, you kinda automatically throw your seat belt on, or automatically go into the turning lane to turn.

  I had focus on my solar plexus everytime I breathed in, lol and when I breathed out, i moved alittle more!

  The vibrations came instantly almost!!! f*cking awesome! It was allsudden pressure on my chest and stuff and spinning then outa nowhere form looking at my eyelids, I was 10-15 feet away inches from the fireplace across the room!!! I stayed only a few seconds. lol have to take orders from astral dynamics alittle heh oh man good work my man!!