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« on: August 28, 2016, 00:24:34 »

Hi,

I can get to the vibration stage quite easily but on trying to leave my physical body I find I am still too attached to it, stuck to it. If I really force it I get to the stage where you can hear the buzzing noise but I refrain from continuing so as to not risk it as the amount of strain on my physical body at that point is relatively extreme. Any advice welcome.

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 04:06:54 »

Force it, you have nothing to loose.   If it works it works, if it does not work, it does not work.   You are not aping so take a risk and see what happens.    When I force it I get out of my body.   
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 22:45:51 »

I think you can force it like Astralsuzy suggested but I have never done so. When I get the vibrations I simply relax into it and let whatever happens happen. The results are varied and amazing.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 06:36:22 »

Hi,

I can get to the vibration stage quite easily but on trying to leave my physical body I find I am still too attached to it, stuck to it. If I really force it I get to the stage where you can hear the buzzing noise but I refrain from continuing so as to not risk it as the amount of strain on my physical body at that point is relatively extreme. Any advice welcome.

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You're not "too attached", you just don't realize exactly what you're trying to do!
You can't force any of this.  The more you "force it", the most your physical body is going to tell you off.

Relax... realize you're a consciousness in a river and allow the current to take you away.

You're simply not allowing that process to take place.  ALLOW yourself to flow.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 15:56:57 »

You're not "too attached", you just don't realize exactly what you're trying to do!
You can't force any of this.  The more you "force it", the most your physical body is going to tell you off.

Relax... realize you're a consciousness in a river and allow the current to take you away.

You're simply not allowing that process to take place.  ALLOW yourself to flow.

Instead of forcing I decided to just let the vibrations continue which became more intense to a maximum but I found myself still mostly stuck to my head, I think the other parts of my body are much easier to separate. When concentrating on leaving my body that concentration causes me to be attached to my physical brain. If I don't think I just lie there doing nothing and without the thought method I use to induce the vibrations, the vibrations stop. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 16:21:39 »

I think most of the problems are coming from the fact that - if you can experience some kind of vibration "stage", other's experience some other issues - people want to use technics instead of let the process unfold. Many people tried to use methods to get "out" and got stucked parts, instead of relax more and don't think of any body parts.
For example I found my focus in distant music or sounds, to keep my attention on them - not on my body, but still I hang up on my body sometimes.
It takes practice.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 17:10:39 »

Instead of forcing I decided to just let the vibrations continue which became more intense to a maximum but I found myself still mostly stuck to my head, I think the other parts of my body are much easier to separate. When concentrating on leaving my body that concentration causes me to be attached to my physical brain. If I don't think I just lie there doing nothing and without the thought method I use to induce the vibrations, the vibrations stop. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
That's what I mean, ultimately when it comes down to the basics... you're not "separating" different parts of your body.
When you fall asleep at night and "dream", you don't put your different body parts to sleep at different times... you just FALL ASLEEP, all at once.  And WHY does that happen?  Because you ALLOW it to happen... you allow yourself to "drift" (funny use of that word, eh?) off to sleep.  You DRIFT OFF TO SLEEP.  Smiley

It's really no different than when you're trying to project.  You DRIFT off to project.  They're essentially the same process, the only difference is one you're losing awareness when it happens and the other you retain awareness.

Stop trying to separate different body parts, and (as Nike put it so well) "Just do it!".
It's the same with sleep paralysis... if you're experiencing sleep paralysis, then you're already projecting... stop fighting it and just relax and go.
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