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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 04:08:17 »

Hi,
I'm reading a book called "astral projection for beginners". I'm on the part in chapter one where the author talks about progressive relaxation. I've got that mostly mastered. I also have the part about meditating on one thing mastered. The part on visualizing a scene I still have to practice but other than that mastered.

There is a method in this book called the chakra method. It's where you exit through one of your chakras into the astral plane / real time zone.

The chakras I feel most comfortable with are the root chakra and the third eye chakra.

Can someone give me some tips with this technique ? Or their experience with this technique?

Thanks.
There are a couple "Astral Projection for Beginners" books out there, who is the author of that one?  Edain McCoy?
One of them is "okay"... the other is best used to start fires with.  Smiley

As for the specific method you're referring to...
Well, best to read this article I wrote for my website a little bit ago:  http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/

That "chakra method" you ask about above, the "chakra" part is the focus.  ALL methods used to project requires a focus... this is something that NOBODY ELSE will EVER discuss with you, because they don't know.  ALL Projection methods are actually the same thing, what you need to discover is the 'HOW' behind why the method works.

It has to do with removing your awareness from this physical reality via keeping your 5 physical senses busy with something else.  That's the key.  Nobody will ever teach this to you, because nobody else knows.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2016, 03:54:58 »

Today was my second day doing a meditation (focusing on one thing like a picture). Then after that doing a chakra meditation in combination with that.

When I did the chakra part it felt like I was being charged with electricity / electricity running through my seven chakra points.

Can someone give me advice on this?

Thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2016, 04:21:31 »

 Hi Luffy. These "vibrations" akin to electricity are a exit sign.  Passively observe them/mentally note them and stay the course. There may be other oddities beyond that or should I say there "will" be other oddities beyond that. You need to bypass each and every one of them before you can shift. Soon you will find that you don't need them and see that the other realms are just a simple focus away. But for now you need to learn the basics first.

 Many people don't realize that there is indeed a "learning curve" to this Art, just like there is in any of other form of a Art or new teachings. New discoveries abound. Note them, write them in you Journals and keep on keeping on!  smiley
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2016, 03:00:19 »

Hi Luffy. These "vibrations" akin to electricity are a exit sign.  Passively observe them/mentally note them and stay the course. There may be other oddities beyond that or should I say there "will" be other oddities beyond that. You need to bypass each and every one of them before you can shift. Soon you will find that you don't need them and see that the other realms are just a simple focus away. But for now you need to learn the basics first.

 Many people don't realize that there is indeed a "learning curve" to this Art, just like there is in any of other form of a Art or new teachings. New discoveries abound. Note them, write them in you Journals and keep on keeping on!  smiley

I'm going to try to do that. I just needed more info on this technique [chakra exit]

Also Xanth do you have / can you give me the links to the 100 techniques pdf?

Thanks.
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2016, 06:42:18 »

Are the vibrations of feeling or are they audible vibrations?

If audible, give into them.
When you focus on your breathing, you are not focusing on the vibrations.
Realize and trust that your body will continue to breathe.

If body, I have felt some body vibrations in my experiences and they have generally never lead to anything.
The only body vibration that did ever lead to the most profound experience that I have had is when what felt like volts of painless lightning surged through my body and took me from where I laid.

This was cause with absolute willingness and the absolute need to take a nap and GET THAT NAP.
The nap was more important than anything.
Being able to project was just in the back of my mind but I could have cared less to project at that time. I NEEDED a nap.

There is much more to say about all of this also but, good luck.
Intentions should always be good.
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2016, 01:21:57 »

I need to know the name of this technique so I can google / look it up.

It's from this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Astral-Projection-Complete-Beginners-Expanding-ebook/dp/B00ZODAH60/ref=pd_sim_351_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G8X4QDB6N79CFP8RAY5Q

1. The Visualization Technique
This meditation method is probably the easiest way to astral projection. It is mainly a matter of
directed focus, and it engages your mindís power to visualize. Just as when concentrating, you
visualize something real. It could be your own body, another person, an object situated in your close
proximity, or a location where you intend to astral travel. All other unrelated thoughts must be ignored
and pushed aside.
If you visualize your physical body, then you must create its corresponding spiritual double. Then
slowly, you begin to move it part by part above your real figure, and progressively involve your
whole astral body. Your purpose is to visualize the transfer of your physical perceptions to your
spiritual form. The next thing to do is float. Yes, you imagine seeing your astral body floating above
your physical one. Your sense of physical awareness will gradually attenuate until the vibrations will
take over. Regardless, you keep your focus on imagining your spiritual body hovering above, and
watching your physical body from there. Eventually, as the vibratory state intensifies, your astral
shape is released and you can see your relaxed, real body in a state of relaxed sleep beneath you, and
the silver cord attaching you to it.
If you visualize another person or an object present in your room, you should be aware of their
precise location. Then, you literally set your mind on reaching the other person or the object. In your
astral form, you exit from the physical body and project yourself in the material world at first. From
there, you can adventure in the astral plane only by thinking of it.
If you visualize an actual place, whether youíve traveled there before or not, you must have at least a
photograph that you can study. Memorize the landscape and, after relaxation, picture yourself exiting
your body and flying inside the actual place. Preceded by the overall vibrations, your astral body will
liberate itself and reach for the place. And so, your explorations begin.
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2016, 06:29:17 »

I need to know the name of this technique so I can google / look it up.

It's from this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Astral-Projection-Complete-Beginners-Expanding-ebook/dp/B00ZODAH60/ref=pd_sim_351_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G8X4QDB6N79CFP8RAY5Q

1. The Visualization Technique
This meditation method is probably the easiest way to astral projection. It is mainly a matter of
directed focus, and it engages your mindís power to visualize. Just as when concentrating, you
visualize something real. It could be your own body, another person, an object situated in your close
proximity, or a location where you intend to astral travel. All other unrelated thoughts must be ignored
and pushed aside.
If you visualize your physical body, then you must create its corresponding spiritual double. Then
slowly, you begin to move it part by part above your real figure, and progressively involve your
whole astral body. Your purpose is to visualize the transfer of your physical perceptions to your
spiritual form. The next thing to do is float. Yes, you imagine seeing your astral body floating above
your physical one. Your sense of physical awareness will gradually attenuate until the vibrations will
take over. Regardless, you keep your focus on imagining your spiritual body hovering above, and
watching your physical body from there. Eventually, as the vibratory state intensifies, your astral
shape is released and you can see your relaxed, real body in a state of relaxed sleep beneath you, and
the silver cord attaching you to it.
If you visualize another person or an object present in your room, you should be aware of their
precise location. Then, you literally set your mind on reaching the other person or the object. In your
astral form, you exit from the physical body and project yourself in the material world at first. From
there, you can adventure in the astral plane only by thinking of it.
If you visualize an actual place, whether youíve traveled there before or not, you must have at least a
photograph that you can study. Memorize the landscape and, after relaxation, picture yourself exiting
your body and flying inside the actual place. Preceded by the overall vibrations, your astral body will
liberate itself and reach for the place. And so, your explorations begin.
That's an exercise I've read in many books...

The problem with it for me is that I'm entirely too logical.  I could never follow the instructions while allowing myself to drift away from this physical reality.
Now that I know what I'm doing, I understand entirely what this (and all) exercises and methods are really designed to do and how they work.

But I could never grasp that simply by reading these kinds of methods which others have written.  It was always well beyond my ability to grasp it.

It's easy to just say "If you visualize your physical body, then you must create its corresponding spiritual double."... essentially, that statement is meaningless without the understanding behind it of what makes this work.  I'd dare say that even people who "try" this exercise and are successful with it, don't actually end up doing whatever the exercise is really about.

In the end, everything is about finding a focus which you can then use to hold your awareness so you stop processing your 5 physical senses.  That's what this and all other exercises are designed to do.  If you can do that successfully, you can project.
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2016, 03:37:20 »

I wanted to ask can you compare the description in the phasing book (from Xanth) of the mental rundown exercise to this

https://www.astraldynamics.com/newsletter/leverage-the-art-of-astral-phasing-to-trigger-astral-projections.html

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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2016, 03:56:45 »

I wanted to ask can you compare the description in the phasing book (from Xanth) of the mental rundown exercise to this
I would say it's time to do some investigating/homework and exploring of your own here.  wink
 
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