Chakras don't exist.

[glowsoftly]

I remember Casteneda talking about Chakras in one of his books, (sorry can't remember which one)....saying in so many words...that they were a 'mental construct' we create in order to access and transmute energy.

I also have more questions than answers...does everyone have Chakras? Do we create them ourselves? are we born with them?



In working with them they appear to connect with various elements of our physiology, all our internal organs. Mentally, personally I have found some of them to give me an insight which triggers a new perspective or awareness. Emotional,Spiritual...etc



To me so far, they seem like a map encompassing all elements of ourselves. The more aware we become, the better map readers we are.

I still don't understand an inkling of these Chakras, but they are interesting to me, so I choose learn about them, just another choice.

[BillionNamesofGod]

I think the sheer amount on information on chakras that goes
back so far, is enough to convince me that chakras exist.

The problem is, will we ever be in a position to "prove" such things to the scientific community.

I think it's just down to belief systems. I wouldn't not believe something, just because I couldn't personally prove it to myself. You need to look at belief as a whole.
There's so much information going back to far on chakras, I've never for one moment considered that they weren't real.
I find it disturbing that people here are saying things like chakras don't exist.

[Mystic Cloud]

This reminded me of the time I saw my friends 3RD eye when sitting in front of him, both meditating... With my left eye it was dark reddish and with my left eye it was golden... Whatever that means I do not know

[vegeta]

All I am going to say is either you believe in chakras or you do not.Obviously you chose not to.Anyways you want the other members to prove that chakras DO exist and you may think they cannot come up with a valid or substatial piece of evidence. My question to you AcidMax is can you prove to us they DON'T exist with a good valid and almost proveable reason OTHER than the fact that you can project while focusing on any part of your body? If you can congratulations.If you can't I guess you will have to agree to disagree.

[holy reality]

arguing about the existance of chakars is like arguing about the existance of god

you cannot prove/disprove something of that nature.

you can "prove" that people can feel energy within themselves (though if you are incapable of doing so yourself it doesn't do much good and i don't think a majority of the population would have any reason to believe that ANYONE can feel energy just like ANYONE can theoretically OBE) but that is about all you can prove.

Ancient writings about chakras don't have a ton more validity than the Bible does, aside from that no one really wrote about chakras with the intent of forcing people to use them and I can't think of any corrupt way of using teachings of chakra meditation to brainwash people and exert control over them.

What I know personally is I can feel lots of "energy" in my hands, arms, mid torso, and brow. When I hit a vibrational state it's usually in my heart or throat. I can very quickly make my arms feel so heavy and weird like they are completely paralyzed, yet they aren't, and I have no idea why this is and why I cannot so easily cause other "feelings" in body parts with my imagination.

So it would seem that directing a moving focus through an area of your body definitely does something to it somehow that isn't PURELY imaginational, but I don't know if energy is actually flowing through it or not.

[stephen~]

I believe they exist because I see the colours sometimes before I project. To me they are blobs of perfect colour, not like dark green or pale yellow, but the full colour, just like they appear in illustrations. Now I saw these colours before I ever heard of chakras, or astral projection, they were just simply 'there' in my vision at times in the vibrational stage.

Since then, I have discovered that the colour seems to relate often to feeling uncomfortable in that particular part of the body, ie getting free in the legs and upper body and being stuck in the stomach and seeing yellow (solar plexus colour) in my vision.

I am certain there is no "chakra joke", clearly they exist in some form and have a purpose of sorts, and I see no reason to think those wise people who have cared to study them deeply enough are wrong about what they are and what they do.

[Nahaz]

Hehe, yes! Nothing and everything exists. It's up to you to choose. This system is totally based on external manifestation of internal thoughts. It is a reflection of your inner. By "inner" i mean Source.

The Past is just as fluid and dynamic as the Future, it's all in the Now. Your thoughts create everything. Including me.

It's a wonderful system, a great adventure, for all aspects.

[Li Yun]

go and talk to an acupuncturist they earn a living finding your correct energy points in the 'network, of which the main chakras are the larger ones....




but then again nothing is real....so if its real then its something and so on.....[]

[beavis]

I think chakras exist. I can feel mine. Last year, I had never heard of chakras, and I was surprised to find a new body part where solar plexus is in that picture above. It felt like a bump below my skin, and a weird feeling i couldnt describe. Soon after that, I became good at telekinesis.

More recently, I feel some amazing things near the top 2 chakra locations. They felt better than all physical things I've ever felt. It felt like I laughed at something very funny, and it echoed into astral at (almost?) the speed of light, creating a temporal shockwave (like a plane does at the speed of sound). When I do that, all paranormal things become easier.

BillionNamesofGod: I find it disturbing that people here are saying things like chakras don't exist.

I find it disturbing that you find that disturbing. If we dont theorize about things other than our own beliefs, we will become a thought-censoring religion. Maybe they will find something other than chakras that we have misinterpreted as chakras.

[Fat_Turkey]

I haven't read the replies to this because I don't need to.

All I have to say is that you're stepping on people's beliefs, and from my experience that is a very unwise thing to do. Don't do it [!]

[Mystic Cloud]

I disagree Turkey, I think it is good that someone provokes people, since we all tend to fall into familiar patterns and keep repeating them into an eternal Limbo... That is why we occasionally need someone to provoke us to do something different...

If someone finds this disturbing then you are letting your own ego interfere with you... So basically it is your own fault [xx(]

Children especially tend in a specific age to start arguing against everything you say, so if you act in the same way to them as to this thread, you will probably just get lost in an arguing with them that you will loose, because they are just arguing because of arguing itself

[Ramiel]

quote:Originally posted by acidmax120


Chakras prove nothing and are nothing but some illogical belief.

The fact that you have the AUDACITY to state - without any proof or fact - of their inexistance, despite being uncovered and explored by the ancient Vedas is remarkable.

Try and open your mind.

[Goldenshadow]

Everything exists. Nothing exists. End of story...

[Akensai]

Heh, I think this is a chase of whatever works for you. If you don’t belief chakras to exist, fine. I think there possibly is some truth to chakras or it would be one of the biggest hoax all times

I say possibly because I haven’t gone to great lengths to work whit them.

Anyway be careful whit your jugement, playing around a few times whit energy doesn’t make you an expert on chakras (if they exist or not), you must understand I don’t care either way, belief it or not, but disbelief of chakras on so little experience could make lose some important opportunities.

[jason]

I have found through personal experience that chakras do seem to exist.when I first started working with them,I was trying to activate the lowest one,when I suddenly saw/heard a very vivid picture of a swirling vortex of red energy.it was sort of 'roaring' (for want of better term).

another time,I activated all the chakras-lowest to highest-and got major activation in the heart region-my heart felt much larger,and felt like it was going to beat right out of my chest.I got up to the brow chakra,and my 3rd eye opened right up![:O]I saw these wierd blue wavy lines,like a was 'seeing'the vibrations.I activated the crown chakra at nearly the same time as the brow,and left my body,and floated around the room!!

I couldn't get away from my body,and I felt the very strong pull back to it (this is why I like to 'shoot' myself out of my body when I can).I was having vision and movement problems,being so close to the physical body,so I went back into it.

I've been getting lazy for the past 2 years or so,about 'clearing the cobwebs',so I haven't had any obe's, but I've just started again,and use hemi-sync to propel the body into trance fatster than usual.

I keep everyone posted as to what happens[]