Patrik
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2004, 18:18:07 » |
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I think Jeff's explaination was very good, though I would like to add some thing to what he said, if anyone don't mind.
Personally I think there are three ways to access the astral plane.
1) The first one is the classic OBE, you feel separate from the physical body and enter the real-time zone using your energy body/double.
2) Phasing, you enter the astral through a hypnogogic image, create an image which you "step into" or enter it using a portal/gateway in the 3D darkness.
3) What some people call "channeling", which is however not related to spirit channeling. With this way you can remain centered in physical body, use your hands to type etc, while "seeing" the astral realms. This type if more vauge and not as detailed.
We all have many bodies, we have the physical body, the etheric body, the energy body in the realm-time zone. We also have many bodies in the different astral levels, as well as in the higher dimensions. When we do an external projection into the real-time zone, we feel ourselves leave the body, and uses the energy body - we feel more as a point of conciousnes.
From the real-time zone we can enter the different levels, when we do that we switch body, and leave the more unstable energy body behind. One can also switch back from the realms to the energy body and real-time zone, but not as easy. The external projection is usually a bit more clear, but can have memory problems, also more "fun" since you actually feel yourself leaving body, which gives it more of a "real" feel.
When doing phasing, you skip the entire real-time zone and energy body process and go straight into one of the 7 levels or sub-levels and enter a realm. When doing this you imidiately go to the bodies you have there, which are more "solid" and stable, hence you feel you have more of a "body" there. When doing phasing, one can, it seems either feel as a gignat "head" or TV (usually through the portal). But also actually feel you use the body you have in the levels, which you always do in hypnogogia, but also very common in gateways/portals... I think that somehow one can choose, but not sure how.
This method is not as clear, but that doesn't mean it's unclear either it usually feels pretty close to an external projection (into the real-time zone directly), but you usually don't have the memory problems involved in external ones.
While we sleep the energy double will be projected, even stated by Robert Bruce. This energy double will lay floating above the bed, in bed, or walk around looking drunk. One can often "wake up" this energy double, in which case the sleeping person will become aware, and depending on circumstances he might or might not remember it (very likely he won't, depending on how deep he is etc). When one has a concious projection or OBE, one can experience reality fluctuations caused by the subconcious, small things will change etc. If the fluctuations become too much, one can loose onself into the subconcious and will end up in a dream. However when this happens, one is usually concious, but very confused... One knows that one is outside of body, and often that things just does not make sence... however you still go on with it, believing in what you see. Trust me, this is very confusing, and you usually realize when you get back to body what has happened.
For instance you might be OBE, fall into a dream and see someone you know. You know you are out of body, but the person sees you, you get confused... You know he/she should not be able to see you, since you are out of body... Still the person does, you become confused... do experiments, waving hands in front of him, he reacts... You become even more confused, snap back to body realizing what has happened and that you were in a dream.
However when one does phasing, one does an internal projection... As Monroe realized, internal space and external space is the same. One goes straight to the realms, skipping the energy body part and the conciousnes transports to the more solid astral level bodies. Since you techniqually are asleep though, the energy body will be projected, just like when having an OBE or falling asleep. However the conciousnes is not centered in this body, so it will once again laying next to physical body in bed, or walking around looking drunk.
If one goes from the level bodies to the energy body, one again centers in this body, will walk around like normal awake. However now the level body will begin to act strange, walking around all dizzy.
This post became quite long, but I hope I helped a bit, and not just confused things further.
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