"Taught"...also, it's called being "pragmatic". He is not claiming that things don't exist...he is merely focusing on what is a given and what's relevant. Get a dictionary.
And tell me, how can you decide before what's relevant and what's not? I'm curious to know.
By pretending a thing is relevant and another is not? By thinking a thing is relevant and another not? I'm sorry to say it to you but that's a "method" that brings only to self-delusion.
You have clearly never tried the pre-nap method and probably haven't ever projected at all because if you had, you'd know that with the pre-nap/sleep (or wake back to bed) method, you don't necessarily experience lapses in consciousness.
The lapse is ALWAYS there. Noticing it or not noticing it it doens't really matter. It is a staple of using sleep methods. If you did know how to do "exit" voluntarily then you would have enough control to always notice the lapse. In your condition, you cannot.
What you call "mind alert" is just your recollection of it but the lapse it's always there.
Btw, many authors very experienced in sleep methods have talked about this "lapse" and that's always there, but I suppose you know better than all of them, isn't it?
You seriously need to try the nap method! Try it! The energy work is a waste of time. There are so many people practising it and most still don't know what they are doing. In my opinion, the scam is as clear as daylight. I asked you to point out the pseudo-science from Raduga and so far you haven't.
I've done both methods from a lot of time already. I never speak about things I don't know first hand and I always research EVERYTHING (especially things I don't like or I think they are "bogus" at first), differently from you. I know the differences in both ways, while you don't, and you tell me I should try something?
(Then if I didn't know nothing about it how could I know that you act in "automatic" when using sleep methods? This is a thing that's neither mentioned usually in books - differently from the "sometimes lapse sometimes not". Isn't it strange that you take as evidence only some things that for your they would "prove" that I know nothing about it, when then you discard completely others that clearly demonstrates the contrary? Using the well known method of "pointing out only what is good to your cause, discarding all the rest", are you?)
All I see is that you have no intention of having an open mind and instead you continue insisting that this or that is "hocus-pocus" without never having ever tried it once and without either minimally care to experience if that's so or not. How do you call this? I call it being full of it, as you are.
As for Raduga I already told you that he doesn't either know fully of what he talks about (as you), what do you want more?
You need to do some serious research on sleep cycles and it is possible to do it before sleep (you will also find this in the book - do read it because I don't think you have - and if you have...well, you misunderstood its content.
What part of "YOU NEED *SLEEP* ANWYAY" you didn't get in my last message? Wasn't difficult to get. But I see you completely sidestepped all my examples. Good strategy, but it doesn't work.
The truth is that, once you enter the Phase and you believe that the playing with the "energy" has helped you, than that is exactly what you manifest. It isn't the energy or the vibes. It is your BELIEF and EXPECTATION that delivers results.
And you know this from personal experience, isn't it?
You come here pointing fingers and saying that many have no control in their experiences but so far you have shown me that you know very little (reminder: especially about what happens in the pre-sleep method). By the way, the people who enter the Phase while walking...you just believe them?
I didn't "believe" them, I've never believed nobody just because I had to. I've seem them doing it, they have been my "masters" somewhat 23 years ago.
Do you know what's the difference between you and me? The difference is only one of intent, as I already declared. I'm not interested in what is "right" or "wrong". I'm just interested on what works and what it doesn't and the only way to find out, seriously, is trying all the things by yourself, no matter what they are and what you think about them.
You instead are more interested on what you think you know, but the problem is that you know only what you care to know (and so only a part, and, in the end, just for this, nothing) and yet you think you are a master.
Here we go with the voluntary again...do yourself a favour and get a dictionary!
Now you are resorting to personal insults, I see. English is not my native language as I thought it was obvious.
LOL! You make me laugh. If you think he's so bad why did you bother to read the whole book? You did read it all, didn't you?
Would you please stop with this "LOL". Are you a child? Can we have an adult conversation without you here getting all owned by your emotions?
That's why many people are projecting because of him and they claim to have developed a greater control than before - after following Raduga's advice.
Can you please me quote me writing that the methods of Raduga (and btw, they are not HIS methods) don't work? I just said that they only pertain to using sleep.
Actually, this is incorrect. I can testify that you come out fully conscious when you apply this method. Partially conscious may occur but most of the time, you are fully conscious and focused on that reality.
So you tell me that you can decide beforehand to do a certain thing and you will do exactly the same thing after, not being carried aways by "impulse". Good to know, you must be the only one capable of doing so using sleep methods.
Pretending a thing is in a way without nothing else to compare it upon is not the smartest point of start.
Also, I've used this method to visit people and I've got some good results. Talk about having no control, eh?
Have you some problem of comprehension, pherhaps? What this have to do at all with control is beyond me, really.
A) Capacity of deciding where to go BEFORE the experience begins.
B) Capacity of deciding what to do BEFORE the experience begins and carry up the plan after (and modify it "on the fly" depending on what happens, without "being carried" away and finding yourself doing a completely different thing if you so not decide to) as it can happen in "normal" life.
C) Capactiy of having full critical faculty as in "normal" life (this is tied to B). Full critical facutly means having full decision on what to do next if you so desire.
What you did is just a banal experience (in the sense that's it has no real practical value outside its own scope) everyone can have (and everybody having done these things have), what's so good about it? And more you either come here with your "proofs" to let me supposedly see how good you are, as if I would care. These things are good to impress your friends but do you seriously think they matter something?
To everybody his/her own ambitions, I guess.
Actually, what I meant by "same result" is that it is all the Phase, the same phenomenon. Not what you experience. what you experience is subjective and majorly dependent on your beliefs and where you mind is at. But I understand...you are looking for ways to discredit me and you feel that I've threatened your belief foundation. I understand...
It's not the same thing. There are many differences. Not all "planes" have ego as the starting point.
I don't feel threatened at all by what you say, I'm just sad that you are so sure of everything without either having tried to go beyond what you think is "correct" or it isn't.
I never said it was a phasing method...I said it is LIKE that. Read properly and stop making assumptions.
If you say that it's like a phasing method then it means that it has the same "structure", the same application on the way it works. Fact is that, on the contrary, it is completely different in structure and on how it works, they are not either minimally comparable. And then, please, stop to act smart, want you? I know exactly the way you "see" the method because you have only a certain structure to compare it to and so necessarily you try to put it in that perspective (and for this you don't understand how it works and you call some things unnecessary), and that structure is phasing.
You know nothing about how the technique works. You know absolutely nothing about it and you have either the presumption of wanting to tell what's necessary or unnecessary in the technique.
From where it comes all this pretending you know something about things you know nothing about? Have you ever tried researching on that method seriously to see if maybe some of the things are different than you supposed they were and then try them yourself if they were so or not? Have you ever tried to test if maybe what you thought "unnecessary" was maybe not so instead of pretending to know everything about it already because you think you obviously know "better"? I think there's neither need for you to answer that, isn't it?
But it's neither your fault. You ask me why I don't like authors as Raduga. You have the answer right here, right there.
Where did you see me say that it was created by Butler? And this is why you need to do some revision of what you claim to have read. By the way, why don't you enlighten everyone with you amazing Body of Light method? LOL!
I already have, read my post on Xanth.
Can you please stop now with personal insults and behave without being transported by emotions so that we can have a meaningful debate? Thank you.