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« on: August 02, 2005, 04:16:57 »

Last night I died again. Gosh, it must be almost a thousand times now that this has happened to me in dreams... as I'm sure it has to many of you.

This latest one was quite adventurous and dramatic. I had a sort of false awakening from a lucid dream into a reality where I was becoming psychic, due to my close study of dreaming. Images would flash at me and they would soon happen as expected. Naturally, I became an escort to the president of the United States, and foresaw suicide bombing attacks on him and prevented them. Horribly, I was with him when he was about to speak with what appeared to be a women's rally. Suddenly, I foresaw a pregnant woman rushing towards the president, except she was not pregnant. Instead she was packed with enough explosives to blow half the arena. No, I thought. I would not shoot down a pregnant woman... I doubted my psychic ability. Just as soon as I had brushed it aside, she came... I saw her a mile away and she exploded next to me.

As I died, I wondered... was there some special transit to the afterlife for a psychic person who screwed up? For someone who allowed others to die through negligence? Was my precaution worth anything? Why was it such an inescapable Catch-22? Would I carry my knowledge into the afterlife in some unique way? And what was the afterlife like anyways? Was my psychic ability just a shadow of that existence? Did I know anything? Was there someone waiting for me? And then I thought, finally death has come, but will I suffer for welcoming it? Should I feel guilty that I accept death so easily? What kind of raw, special punishment awaits me?

And then I awoke!

Is my continually waking up paying for sins committed while dreaming?

Then a few minutes go by... and what was this intense shuddering of eminent death becomes a trivial event. The real world is now in front of me, clearly speaking its importance... its homework, its natural demands, its judgments, its needy humanity... so that intense feeling of death, was so unimportant? A passing phantom of existence?

I do not ask these questions to hear your answers, so please do not offer them. Rather, I'm interested, for those of you who have had death dreams... what goes on in your thoughts as it happens? What kinds of questions? How many questions? When you awake to the real world - are you disappointed? Or do you find it amusing?

I have died so many times. I'd like to hear a fresh perspective on the subject. ;)
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2005, 04:26:53 »

Never died in a dream before.  Had some situations where I've done things that would have killed me in real life, actually, coming to mind now.  I was shot once in a dream.  With a machine gun.  What was really freaky is that it took place at my school and I could feel the holes of the bullets in my back and the blood.  To real and freaky so I woke up.
Generally, my dreams aren't freaky like that, perfectly weird and normal.  Hmm, aside from that incident, never died in a dream, or what I can recall.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2005, 07:20:14 »

I've died in dreams  before, but the experience itself is different each time and I dont really have any questions.  I just sort of think "well I did what I could in the situation, everythings fading, now things should get interesting." Everything always fades away and I get the feeling I get when I am about to AP via a standard OBE exit, a total body sinking and every molecule passing through some filter into another reality.  Usually I just wake up slowly and look around and shrug and grin, jot it down in my dream log and pass out.  I cant remember a time when I thought I was going to hell or going to be punished upon death.  Due to the inherent mystery of it all I just assume it will work itself out and worrying about it is pointless as I dont know for sure what will happen.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2005, 16:57:29 »

That's a cool dream. I've died several times in dreams. One time I was walking through a parking lot toward a Wal-Mart. I saw a woman walking out of the store carrying a rifle I assumed she'd just bought. But she hadn't, she'd been using it inside. She just casually walked up to me and shot me in the throat. I fell onto the pavement watching my blood spread out, and I was thinking, "this is going to be really interesting." Then I woke up. I was very disappointed, actually.

Whenever I die, I'm very stoked. I'm excited to see what happens next. That's all I have, just a sense of thrill.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 19:12:37 »

The last time I died in a dream was last week. My memory of it is fragmented, but here goes.

I was unaware that I was dreaming at first, but it was quite vivid.

In the dream I was piloting some sort of futuristic military craft. I had a copilot... it was none other than the American actor Al Pacino.  rolleyes  Anyway, so we are on some sort of kamakazi mission or something. We both knew we were probably not going to see the next sunrise.

We actually talked a lot, but I don't remeber much of the conversation.

Then suddenly we had "bogeys" on our tail. Strange living things were chasing us. Supposedly our mission was to lure these flying dragonlike things away from somewhere else  - I cant remember the details.

So, one of the things caught up to us and ripped our little advanced super dooper craft to shreds. I was falling to the ground at a 100miles an hour. I remember thinking a silly thing as I fell, if this craft is so damn advanced why doesnt it have an ejection seat.

I became sort of lucid while I fell. Strangely enough, a sane person would probably panic and for some reason I just calmly watched the ground approach.

I saw the little pebbles and flowers on the ground in detail before I smacked into it. I felt no pain. Only a sadness. It was like, damn, my poor body.

What I saw next was less exciting: I was floating in white light and had no body at all.

Kind of dissapointing ending, but a pretty cool dream overall.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2005, 20:11:10 »

I had a dream back in high school:

I was in front of my parents house, around midnight, walking down towards a neighbors house. I heard a loud crash and turned around to see a huge silhouette of a man who had bashed my parents mailbox with some sort of large stick. A started going towards him screaming "what do you think your doing?". Then he pulled the "stick" up and I noticed it was a shotgun, so I turned and ran as fast as I could. I got about 7 or 8 strides when I heard BOOM.... BOOM.... and I fell forwards onto the ground. I didn't feel any pain and wasn't even sure why I fell, but then everything started going black quickly. I had a quick second to think "I'm dead" before going out...

...and then I woke up sweaty with my heart beating incredibly fast. Sounds cliche, but it happened.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2005, 22:41:25 »

I've had dream(s) where a Detroit gang pulled a gun and shot me. This caused me to be pulled back to the physical and the vibrations kicked in very strong. This leads me to believe that I wasn't too far from my physical to begin with and was in a unconscious dream, not drifting in the astral during that time.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2005, 08:01:47 »

Wow, I find your posts very interesting. I can't be killed with guns, don't know why, they shoot me but I can take it and stand and no blood, no pain,  sometimes a few holes that I can instantly heal.

Death in my dreams usually involve drowning or choking, and what I feel is that it goes on, I drown but still stay there, only my mind frame changes and I start to know that I can't die.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 12:11:37 »

http://freewebs.com/afterlife/flint/flintrecordings.htm

All the information on the afterlife you need, from those who have already died.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 19:35:26 »

Wow. All sorts of interesting replies. Thank you everyone!

Except you, Potatis. That link crashes my browser. And I doubt we need the advertisement.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 22:55:13 »

Strange it crashed the browser.

It's not a commercial advertisment. All the recordings are free for download. They are recordings of the Leslie Flint direct voice medium seances. Hundreds of interviews were recorded with the deceased, describing many of the spheres where people live, and the things people do.

The recordings reveal a great truth. Many people on this fourm, who don't know that these recordings exist, will be interested in that link. Especially when many of the things said in those recordings verify what many experienced OBErs write about in this forum. Even though many of the recordings are 40 years old.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 23:17:36 »

I dided while dreaming of course Cheesy
it was a beautiful day, everything was so clear and colorful around me, somthing like early spring, i will never forget it, i was opening my front door (my house door) and then i felt someone stabbing me in the back, i couldn't see who that was, it was in pain but it wasn't a horrible experience, iwas  like am i going to die?? I sure wanna know how it feels to be dead i said to myself and then i fell on the floor but in seconds i was rising from the ground while my physical body on the floor something like astral projection and i was flying over the rroftops of my neighbourhood it was really a great dream and feeling Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2005, 02:52:27 »

Potatis, thank you for your clarification. I'll find some other way to visit the site.

That's pretty awesome, Eldarion. I think I've learned more about the nature of death from you guys then I ever have by doctrine or theories.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 06:11:05 »

Telos,

No problems with that link here... call the helpdesk so they can tell ya a novice reply "reboot your pc..Smiley "

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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 07:47:49 »

I had a dream last night about dying and you just reminded me of it. Thanks Telos...however i can't remember it as well as if i woulda wrote it down when i first awoke.

Anyways i was in the army WWII (Been watching too much Band of Brothers) and i remember knowing that most likley i will die and even knowing that dying would probably be really cool because of the experiences i've had projecting i was still really scared...didn't want to die. weird
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2005, 17:12:22 »

Hey,

That's odd, I've had many dreams involving me dying around the WWII era as well. My last dream involved me hiding from the Nazi's under what was a bar (like drinking bar) on the first floor of my house in the dream. Everything was made of wood, and  my mom and I were holding each other, trying not to make a noise as we heard the Nazi's enter our house. Of course they found us, all they had to do was look behind the bar. When they found us, they just smirked, and pulled me away from my mother and put me against the wall. I was crying right before he shot me in the head, and the strange thing was, there was so much emotional energy inside of me, I could feel the adrenaline pumping through me, like I was really going to die. And I could feel the bullet enter my head for what felt like a millisecond, and I remember feeling how cold it was. I remember feeling numb, and collapsing on the ground, seeing everything go blurry, and hearing my mom sobbing. I just remember the feeling that I had accomplished something great, and my time of waiting was finally over, then I woke up.
          When I woke up in the physical, I was still overwhelmed with adrenaline. I couldn't believe that just happened. I wanted to somehow reenter the dream and confront my mother to tell her everything was alright. It was weird, because at the time, I felt like I had a stronger connection to the dream family, than I did to my family in the physical. Hmm, something to think about. Anyway, that was it, Thanks for reading!

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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2005, 18:21:39 »

Damn, it must be very freaky. I've never seen my blood in my dreams, nor have I felt something hurting me seriously.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2005, 18:00:13 »

I have had death dreams since I was a child, am not 26. These dreams are always of me being shot in the back of the head. I do not know why I keep having this dream. But sometimes I think it may be the way I passed away in my last life cycle. The last vivid dream I had of this was about 2 years ago, I was walking at night down my street on the sidewalk when I heard these people running up to me from behind. All of sudden something was placed against the back of my head and fired. I did not feel any pain, just numb. I fell to the sidewalk and layed there. Everything went black and this calming feeling overwhelmed me. I could feel myself dying. All I was thinking about at that time was that I did not want to die, I was not ready to go. The feeling of calmness overwhelmed me and it was so peaceful, but it was just dark,,,,and then I woke up. I have not had a death dream since then
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2005, 21:55:05 »

madonafrk, you reminded me of another death dream I had. This one is really interesting.

I was taking a nap. At the end of it I dreamed I was an American on a steamer. It was the late 19th century. I remember something happening. Then I remember falling into the ocean and drowning. It was dark and very cold. I remembered another odd detail about this dream occurrence: there were only two survivors. I woke up for a second before falling back to sleep, and told myself to remember doing a google search when I was awake.

As it turns out, in 1875 the steamer SS Pacific (carrying the equivalent of $5,000,000 in gold) was struck by another ship and sunk. There were 300 people on that ship, and only two survivors. It matches perfectly with what I dreamed, and searching a database of shipwrecks, it's the only steamer I could find from that era to have sunk and had only two survivors. Pretty eerie.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2005, 03:33:42 »

That's pretty awesome, mactombs. I can't help but think it has something to do with money!
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2005, 02:06:22 »

I had a death dream a few weeks ago where i was tied up by this maniac who was pointing a gun in his mouth, i was hoping he shot himself while i struggled to free myself from the ropes, and then just as i undid the last rope he pointed the gun at my forward in close proximity and then the next thing i saw was a white flash in my head, no sound, after that i woke up.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2005, 17:41:04 »

Ive had a number of dying dreams, but the one that stands out most to me was a long dream that ended in me running away from a gunman.
As i ran i was shot in the back of the neck, then in the back of the head, i felt no pain, as i fell and hit the floor.
Id never had problems with death dreams before, but I found this one quite distressing. My vision slowly blurred and it then became completely dark, I thought I was fighting to stay alive but in reality i was simply fighting to stay in the dream. I could feel my awareness, my conciousness slipping away (like waking out of a lucid dream) and i tried my best to focus but i couldnt beat it, it wasnt within my control. I dont think i really thought much of anything during this, I didnt question what was happening i just kinda panicked and didn't want to die.
Anyways i cant remember if i woke after that or whether i moved onto another dream.

Telos, there are many examples (some quite gruesome) of dream dying experiences here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9045

Thought you might find them interesting.

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2005, 06:50:41 »

Thank you malim and RooJ.

I appreciate the link. I did a search before posting this thread, but most previous discussions seemed to waver around what the experience "means" and the ever puerile question "if I die in a dream, will I die in real life?"

I just wanted to hear the raw experience, especially including the mental processes. Everyone has a done a very good job sticking to that and I am very pleased.

Although dream death isn't exactly the same as real death, I suspect that they are more similar than we think. For there so many different ways of dying in each, so many different thoughts, mindsets, and sensations. It may be that our limited physical view (which may be a good thing in this case) causes us to see death as a "passage" when it might as well be a delirious transformation of reality, a view that is significantly more frenzied.
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