Re:Force field around White House!

[personalreality]

The next time you're at TMI drive east for 45 minutes and come to my metaphysical bookshop in richmond.

[Seraphis1]

The next time you're at TMI drive east for 45 minutes and come to my metaphysical bookshop in richmond.

Hi Personality: Not an easy thing to do... I will be there in july for heartlines but, I don't drive... the TMI van pickes us up at the airport and from then on I am in isolation for a week.

S.

[personalreality]

that's intense.

well, just in case you ever get the chance.

i have a unique opportunity to meet fellow Astral Pulsers since i'm so close to TMI.

[Stookie]

But we spend so much time here because we can't afford TMI.

[Xanth]

But we spend so much time here because we can't afford TMI.

That's definitely MY excuse. 

[Seraphis1]

But we spend so much time here because we can't afford TMI.

Hi Stookie: What state are you in?? How is it you can't save enough for a once a year TMI experience?

S.

[Xanth]

Hi Stookie: What state are you in?? How is it you can't save enough for a once a year TMI experience?

S.

From the courses I've seen, they're around $1000 - $2000...
I dunno about Stookie, but I certainly can't afford that kind of thing... especially when I can learn to do the same thing here for free. 

[Seraphis1]

From the courses I've seen, they're around $1000 - $2000...
I dunno about Stookie, but I certainly can't afford that kind of thing... especially when I can learn to do the same thing here for free.  

Hi X: Don't forget travel expenses. The whole thing can cost up to $4000.  . And you are right... with diligent practice you can accomplish the important things for free. But, for newbies who can afford it, it is a great experience without a doubt and a safe environment. For those who have real difficulty it is a big help because it is a neutral environment. And there is a group dynamic that is pretty powerful. Plus some fun things happen. In one of my seminars I was in my chec unit and in an exercise and heard a man say 'Hello'. When we debriefed I told the group I heard someone say 'Hello" and the guy pipes up, 'that was me... I went around and said hello to everyone'.   Then, in one of my sessions... as we were coming out of a session I felt someone take my hand... I knew who it was... at debriefing I told her what happened in debriefing... and she said, 'yeah we were all in a circle...' The only thing I remember is her taking my hand.  

So there is a fun aspect to it all as well as a productive growth thing. And supporting a bonified honorable group to advance the evolutionary growth of the planet.


S

[Xanth]

I'm just against charging large sums of money for this kind of education.
This type of stuff should be free (or near free) to all of humanity.

If TMI wanted to help humanity, as was Robert Monroe's initial goal... he wouldn't have been charging all this money.

Personal opinion. 

[Stookie]

Hi Stookie: What state are you in?? How is it you can't save enough for a once a year TMI experience?

S.

I suppose I could if I really wanted to. I guess when it comes down to it, I have a really cool job that I love, but it doesn't pay a whole lot, so I'm really stingy with it. And right now it's going into my Stookie-Goes-To-Japan fund. 

[Seraphis1]

I'm just against charging large sums of money for this kind of education.
This type of stuff should be free (or near free) to all of humanity.

If TMI wanted to help humanity, as was Robert Monroe's initial goal... he wouldn't have been charging all this money.

Personal opinion. 

Hi X: Good luck in creating that consensus reality.

S.

[Xanth]

Well, think about it... Robert Monroe was actually quite the hypocrite.
I mean on the one hand, he thought he was here to help educate and move humanity into a new level of "knowing".
Humanity means "everyone"... not "just those who are able to pay".

Sorry, but that's where I get off the Monroe-express.

[horaciocs]

I think they do have some actual expenses to deal with. I mean, the whole environment there is prepared to provide the best experience ever to its users. I've never been there, but if I do I'll expect nothing but excellence. I guess the shielding used there must be somewhat expensive, training the staff must be quite difficult and research probablt has its share too. However, I don't think it's enough to charge each user $2000 per gateway voyage program.

What I think happens is that such a pricetag puts off some of the less serious experimenters. Imagine if it cost about $500 per voyage program. Their userbase would most certainly expand and it would attract many people that aren't that serious about what they do over there. (I don't mean that anyone who isn't willing to cashout $2000 doesn't take this subject seriously, but most people who do feel like spending that amount are pretty serious about it).

Also, it keeps their success rates high, for people would rather practice a lot at home before applying than arrive there "green" and spoil the experience.

[Seraphis1]

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Well, think about it... Robert Monroe was actually quite the hypocrite.
I mean on the one hand, he thought he was here to help educate and move humanity into a new level of "knowing".
Humanity means "everyone"... not "just those who are able to pay".

Sorry, but that's where I get off the Monroe-express.
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Hold on X: I have no idea where you are getting your facts –

Firstly, Monroe was a business man not a religious zealot. As a matter of fact, he avoided religious symbolism and according to an early trainer, whenever he heard a trainer use words like chakras and the like he dressed them down. It was only after he died that things loosened up and occasionally a trainer with a background in one of the esoteric religions will slip up and use none scientific words with a religious connotation.

Second: The Monroe Institute is a 501(c)(3) educational and scientific research organization dedicated to the exploration of human consciousness it is not a religious institution. It is non-profit by law therefore the tuition is much less than it would be if it were a for profit business enterprise. I don’t know the conditions of Monroe’s Estate but, it appears he left all his money and property to the Institute and all proceeds for those investments and properties along with gratuity from students go for the reasonable maintenance of and furthering of the cause of human consciousness exploration.

Third: You are entitled to your opinion about how ‘you’ personally would run an educational and research institution, but, unless you have proclaimed yourself ‘god’ and have created rules of how others ‘will’ conduct their business, I would avoid left handed slanderous attacks on another’s motives and integrity. You are entitled to hold Monroe in distain.

Fourth: To my knowledge The Monroe Institute is on the cutting edge of imparting to others ‘real’ information that is ‘not’ theory… about the non-physical universe…; and ‘real’ skills of how an individual may learn for yourself how to contact and interact with the non-physical. 

S.

[Xanth]

So many assumptions...

I never mentioned ANYTHING about "religion"... "god"... "zealot"... "theory"...
Wow... just, wow.  You need to read and think before replying.

I'm just going by what the man said in his books.
That he wanted to help change humanity.  I said NOTHING about *ANYTHING* you mentioned.

You make it sound like I'm ready to crucify the man.  >_<  Geeze.

All I said was that for a guy who wanted to bring his message to as many people as he could... he sure isn't going about it the right way.
I FULLY respect the man for what he's accomplished and the knowledge that he has passed along.  But, I just think that TMI is too "commercialized" nowadays.