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« on: June 26, 2012, 07:17:30 »

So I haven't projected yet (am still trying), but after some research and thought I'm wondering if the following would be possible. Going back in time and having a chat with myself while I'm sleep. Since time isn't linear and apparently can be bent in the etheric realm (I've read about people going back in time to witness events). I'm wondering if I could go back in time and pull myself out of my body while sleep and talk to a younger version of me. Or could I do that with anyone else other than myself. I don't care about any possible implications it may cause, I just wonder if it is possible.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 08:07:31 »

meh...the best framework that fits my conceptual model is that time is actually flowing the opposite direction there, and that is to say, that is what makes up 'matter.' Good luck on your search.

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 10:31:57 »

Hi,
Time as a vector in respect to the physical is in phase. Chemical reactions take a finite time to complete. The current building up in a solenoid takes time to complete. This anchors the physical to its relevant timeline. The astral has none of the above limitations therefore time is an aspect of the physical dragged into it by the projector. Drop the physical laws and time exists at right angles. This means its value is taken from your perspective, this being subjective to you can be anytime.
An example,
In the physical we have a date for today. This is rigid, no matter what you try in the physical the rule sticks. Todays date is here for the day.
In the astral you attain your surroundings from your thoughts. If they were of last century then the surroundings would match. Travelling through time is also easier. Because you are now at right angles to physical time your able to slide yourself to any point along its existance. Liken it to 2 lengths of steel, one is yours the other is the surroundings your in. While physical both lengths are matched so cannot slide across each other.
When you're astral, one bar crosses the other at right angles. Now you can slide your length to anywhere along the other. As the two are not fixed time isn't either.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 14:26:06 »

Hi,
Time as a vector in respect to the physical is in phase. Chemical reactions take a finite time to complete. The current building up in a solenoid takes time to complete. This anchors the physical to its relevant timeline. The astral has none of the above limitations therefore time is an aspect of the physical dragged into it by the projector. Drop the physical laws and time exists at right angles. This means its value is taken from your perspective, this being subjective to you can be anytime.
An example,
In the physical we have a date for today. This is rigid, no matter what you try in the physical the rule sticks. Todays date is here for the day.
In the astral you attain your surroundings from your thoughts. If they were of last century then the surroundings would match. Travelling through time is also easier. Because you are now at right angles to physical time your able to slide yourself to any point along its existance. Liken it to 2 lengths of steel, one is yours the other is the surroundings your in. While physical both lengths are matched so cannot slide across each other.
When you're astral, one bar crosses the other at right angles. Now you can slide your length to anywhere along the other. As the two are not fixed time isn't either.
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Yes, that makes allot of sense. It's also why I was thinking time travel would probably be possible. Now the only question is, could I interact with the physical world while doing so. Even if it meant just interacting with others on an astral level and not actually interfering with the physical realm.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 16:14:20 »

you cant go back in time because it all happens in your future

if you want to see dinosaurs you have to go forwards in time around the loop and then you see them
everything happens in the same now

it is totally possible to find a parallel where you are young and that part of the story looks like the past but its really in the now, you may even be able to help them but its not you its another version in a similar story

i know its not popular to use the word cant but if you think about it, when will you go back in time?
the answer is in your future

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 16:15:27 »

also you might like this

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_quantum_physics/time_travel_the_easy_way-t35522.0.html

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 16:28:44 »

You might not be able to change much, but you can re-live past experiences through new perspectives. There's a lot you can learn about your life doing that.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 17:41:39 »

Hi,
Read C.W.Leadbeaters book Clairvoyance.
Its freely available on the net. This will answer lots of points brought up in this thread.
The book was written in 1899 or very close to this year. As its very old all the modern sales hype is non existant.
Recommended reading.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2012, 19:21:52 »

Well in theory it's possible to go back in time and observe and probably even interact. When you are in the astral, you are simultaneously at every point in the universe and every point in time, so you can instantaneously move to any of these points. That's the theory anyway, I've never managed it.

And regarding the problem of going back in time and messing things up, I don't believe it's possible. Your present life is PREDICATED on the actions you perform when you go back in time. If you do manage to go back in time, and interact with "past you" then inevitably, those actions were needed to make "present you". You can't do any damage. Whatever actions you take, you will find, are actually required to make the "present" what it is.

The simplest example was given by a Pulse board member a few years ago. She said that she had AP'd, gone back in time and observed her self as a young child. She described the scene, featuring her childhood self in her childhood bedroom. When she returned to her body and got up, she then remembered that as a child in that very bedroom, she had once experienced the eerie sensation of being observed. She HAD been observed - by herself!
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 20:57:41 »

Loreali,

I am going to jump right on in and elaborate on past-present-future.

In one particular experience, I have been able to travel back in time and visit my dad during a bus
ride with his few friends. At the time, he was playing a game, crumbled up old brown bag, kicking it
around with his friends. I went up to my dad, hugged him and apologized for all the BS I would put him through in the future then lost consciousness.

Now, before *VALIDATING* anything and rushing to quick judgement waving the flag of victory. I immediately record my OBEs to my iphone to detail. So nothing what ever transpires during the conversation with my dad will not alter, contaminate the data. It is already documented and I can't change or alter to look and appear as validation.

Carefully, later as I called my dad over the phone and asked him about his past. What he did for past time, how he got around town. He replied it was definitely by bus and specific games or pass time would be playing pool, fishing,  etc.. Being carefull no to alter or add to this, I also added was there ever a time you would play kick the can, bag, like (hacky sack) and his reply was "Yes and all the time we would crumble up a bag and make a game out of it". After he explained these events, I expressed what I saw in my experience pre-ceeding.

Now, note that I had no recollection of my dad playing this sort of game before the OBE. So this is not knowledge I already knew and was planted sub-consciously in the experience. I did not know period.

I have also had many false awakenings where my wife would come into the room, look down at me, smile, and climb into bed. After I snapped out of the false awakening, seconds later the whole scene repeated but in physical time. And this, is just not that either - difference set of circumstances with other people..

Does this happen all the time when I obe? No, but I have documented extensively that most of my successes validating OBE to Physical comes all from the false awakening state. Extremely powerful when you are not *looking* or *achieving* validations. It all comes by error and not preparing.


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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 15:47:49 »

In one book that I read on a.p. it stated that you could go back to certain points in time . You could not change any thing .  The color got less the farther back you went , it got more vivid if you went foward in time . On a post hear a few months ago a guy stated a girl friend had used a.p. to go back in time and correct mistakes she had made . About 20 years this lady asked me to help her find her boy friend and kids  that had left her and was staying at a motel room . We did not find them at the motel .  After thinking on this for all these years I think she had   other ideas .  I have wanted to go back in time to replay that event just to see what would happen .  desert rat 
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 16:39:04 »

I do think that even if we do go back in time, the past is written.. Maybe in a different universe we can alter that existence and see the outcome. But as we are now in the physical world, past is gone...

You come to think about it that if we could go back, change everything wouldn't our world we live in *NOW* changed from those past events.... EX: Sadam Husain builds a weapon of mass destruction but fails. He goes back, gets the finances, resources.. sets the bomb off. Flash to the present, everything would change from that skewed point.

Physical time is constant and it can't be changed. Sure we might be able to OBE and see a different outcome, but the other side is a whole different ball game...

Some movies that I really like watching on time travel are:

Somewhere in Time
Timecop
Groundhog Day
Pleasantville
Mr. Destiny
Chances Are
Its a wonderful Life


All the best,

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 16:58:33 »

I'm reading a Stephen King book right now (11/22/63) about a guy that goes back in time to stop JFK from being assassinated. But the past doesn't like to be changed and fights back! It's entertaining.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 19:32:45 »

I do think that even if we do go back in time, the past is written.. Maybe in a different universe we can alter that existence and see the outcome. But as we are now in the physical world, past is gone...

The past is written, I agree with that, but that doesn't stop us from going back in time and writing it. I explained how [I think] that works in my previous post.  No need for alternate universes, either! Here we go...

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Your present life is PREDICATED on the actions you perform when you go back in time. If you do manage to go back in time, and interact with "past you" then inevitably, those actions were needed to make "present you". You can't do any damage. Whatever actions you take, you will find, are actually required to make the "present" what it is

In other words you can go back in time and change stuff, but the changes you make, are ALREADY part of your present day history.

The concept was used in an episode of Dr Who (BBC Sci Fi series) where The Doctor was helplessly locked for eternity in a kind of tomb/room. How did he esape? Well his FUTURE self used a time-travel bracelet to materialise inside the tomb. Future Doctor then handed Present Doctor the key to get out of the tomb. But before he de-materialised, Future Doctor gave explicit instructions to Present Doctor NOT TO FORGET to go back in time and rescue himself again, using the key he had been given, when the opportunity arose in the future. The key given by Future Doctor to Present Doctor, would then be passed back in time to Past Doctor, who would pass it back in time again, and again, and again, and so on ad-infinitum.

Get your head around that! Where does the key originally come from?
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