How Many Times Do You Astral Project A Year?

[jub jub]

I've only had one OBE which included a brief trip into the Astral. Unfortunately, no matter how hard I try, I have not been able to project since. I've even experienced the vibrations where I thought for sure I could get out but no joy. I guess I don't want it bad enough.

[David Warner]

Jub jub,

You definitely have the desire, and wanting to project. I think you need to look at your approach and practice. Many people want to project but have difficulties. You have to ask yourself, am I tracking the different techniques on paper. What foods, how much sleep, exercise, affirmations etc... Its like when you start to learn something new, it takes practice, patience, and redundant repetition. These are extremely important factors in producing a obe that is over-looked.

Your more then welcome to visit my web site  http://www.invisiblelight.us and review my material on-line. Also, I have a excel spreadsheet that is detailed down to the days,times are favorable to produce the oobe.

Hope this helps and good luck!

Tvos

[David Warner]

Jub jub,

The last few days, I finally added to my spreadsheet the following:

Sleep Duration Statistics - Amount of sleep, the day leading up the OBE
Weekly Statistics - What day of the week is most favorable for the OBE
Time Statistics - Morning & Afternoon what time is favorable for OBE

What I'm getting at here is that it takes A LOT of work and capturing the data is so important. I wish back then I'd done this detailed analysis, but now I'm driven to succeed. The following is to help you and others what I am getting at:

WeekDay Statistics   Sub-Total
   
Sunday   8
Monday   10
Tuesday   7
Wednesday   5
Thursday   9
Friday   11
Saturday   3
   
Total   53
Monday-Thursday-Friday are my best days to project   
   
Time Statistics   Sub-Total
   
Morning   
12:00 AM - 12:59 AM   0
1:00 AM - 1:59 AM   0
2:00 AM - 2:59 AM   2
3:00 AM - 3:59 AM   9
4:00 AM - 4:59 AM   1
5:00 AM - 5:59 AM   4
6:00 AM - 6:59 AM   1
7:00 AM - 7:59 AM   0
8:00 AM - 8:59 AM   5
9:00 AM - 9:59 AM   6
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM   8
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM   9
   
Total   45
3AM, 10AM,11AM are my best morning hours to project
   
Afternoon   
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM   8
1:00 PM - 1:59 PM   2
2:00 PM - 2:59 PM   0
3:00 PM - 3:59 PM   0
4:00 PM - 4:59 PM   2
5:00 PM - 5:59 PM   0
6:00 PM - 6:59 PM   0
7:00 PM - 7:59 PM   1
8:00 PM - 8:59 PM   1
9:00 PM - 9:59 PM   0
10:00 PM - 10:59 PM   0
11:00 PM - 11:59 PM   0
   
Total   14
12PM is my best hour in the afternoon to project

Sleep Duration Statistics   Sub-Total
   
1 hour   0
2 hours   0
3 hours   1
4 hours   0
5 hours   3
6 hours   4
7 hours   11
8 hours   13
9 hours   5
10 hours   2
11 hours   0
12 hours   0
   
Total   39
7,8 hours of sleep the previous day is a good to produce the oobe the next day

So as you can see, I now have something to focus on for time, day of the week, and how many hours of sleep is good for me to produce the obe. Think of it almost like a diet and exercise. The more time you spend, reading, meditating, energy work, data stats, affirmations, communicating with the AP forums it will eventually happen.

Tvos

[jub jub]

Tvos, thanks for the info and the link to your web site. I'll look it over whenI get a chance.

One thing I was curious about, when I had my OBE, I fell asleep on the couch which is oriented North and South. My head was pointing North. I think I vaguely remember reading something that having ones head pointing North was important. Sounds screwy but hey, what the heck do I know?  

[David Warner]

Jub jub,

The important thing is that your physical body is comfortable and not twisted, or tangled. I've experimented with N,S,E,W positions and it didn't change the way I projected, exited, quality or quantity.

I know some might say that North - South is better but again I think it all comes down to preference. It is possible that some people might get caught up with a mental block if they are not positioned North and South that they can't project. Everyone is unique and different - what works for one, might not work for the next person, but don't let that deter you from projecting.

Tvos

[catmeow]

If you don't distinguish between OOB and LD then my total is about 3000 to date. I used to keep a written log for the first year or so, but this became a bit tiresome. Tvos I admire you for your scrupulous record-keeping!

[David Warner]

Catmeow,

That is excellent!! - I've never had success with lucid dreaming only false awakenings and conscious obe's are my forte.

Reason why I want to keep up on the record keeping is to view my progress, and unlock the clues why I projected on this day, but not that day. I know there's many variables, but with his basic approach of record keeping I think it will prevail with fruitful experiences.

The stats for the following are:

Lucid Dream To Astral Projection
15

False Awakening
8

Conscious Astral Projection
50


Tvos

[catmeow]

Hi Tvos

Nowadays the vast majority of my LD's/OBE's are initiated from either wakefulness or hypnogogia when I wake up in the morning.  What I mean is that after a night's sleep I will wake up and simply "know" whether I can project or not.  It's then simply a matter of swinging my legs out of bed and getting on with it.  I think I can probably do this most mornings if I want to.  About two days ago I woke to full consciousness and simply "threw" myself across the room and was "out" so to speak.  It was a wonderful projection after that.  I think the more "awake" you are when you initiate the projection, the better the result in terms of clarity, reality etc.

Regarding Lucid Dreams - I'm quite prone to these but the vast majority of my experiences are willfully initiated as above.  These would probably be called "WILD's" (wake induced lucid dreams).

As I have said many times on this forum I actually do distinguish between LD's and OBE's although I believe they are closely related.  Only a small number of my projections would classify as "OBE's" in terms of utter sense of reality, communication with other entities which seems too haunting and real to be just a dream, and the amazing thought (at the time) of "so it's true!".

I'd say about 1 in 50 LD/OBE's have the undeniable "so it's true" quality about them.

I have theories about the LD/OBE relationship but they are not popular these days where the emphasis is on "focus" and "phasing" and the idea that LD and OBE are really the same.

I've also had shared LD/OBE's with others, been seen in houses whilst projecting, and had various other psychic experiences.  But I'm not able to see the aura as you are!  I have a close friend who can see aura's and as a child she just thought everyone could do it....

Apart from that a pretty normal life!

catmeow

[Sepultura123]

Could you tell shared LD or OBE ?

I would very like to do it , like go in the house of my friend and play in a good way with his dream a little.

Could it be done with a OBE ?
Because I heard it could be done with a LD...

How do you do it ?

[catmeow]

My shared LD's were with my mother who has now passed away.  I used to have a real "connection" with my mother and I'm sure this helped.  The most remarkable shared LD was one which I have posted here before, but to recap:

During LD/OBE one Saturday morning I travelled from the house I was living in to my parents' house 200 miles away in Leeds (UK).  This would have been about 9:00am in the morning.  When I arrived outside the house I walked up the garden path and passed through the front door into the hallway.  At this point I met my mother who was a little shocked at seeing me walk in through the door in this way.  After a few calming words we walked through the living room into the kitchen.  In the kitchen I sat down on a very flimsy little wooden "sewing basket" which would normally have collapsed under my weight.  My mother was concerned about breaking the "sewing basket" but I assured her that I was "as light as a feather" and it wouldn't break.  I then pointed at various items in the kitchen and made them float around.  I tried to explain that since we were "out of the body" all of these strange things were quite normal. After this I lost consciousness, or can't remember what happened.

Later in the morning at about 11:00am, just out of curiosity, I decided to phone my parents to see if anything "strange" had happened.  My mother answered in a shocked voice saying "Thank God - I thought you were dead!".  She then blurted out the exact same "dream" that I had had earlier in the morning.  Every detail was the same, ie coming in THROUGH the front door, walking through the living room into the kitchen, sitting on the sewing basket, her protests about breaking the basket, my pointing at objects and making them float around etc.

I have no idea how to do this at will, it just happened.  I'm sure it helps enormously to have a good rapport with the person you are sharing with.

[Sepultura123]

Thanks for sharing

[David Warner]

Catmeow,


Thank You for reprising that experience validation. Did you explain to your mom about your OBE's after that experience? I know exactly what you mean by *knowing* when its time to project and the light is Green.

I feel at times I should be more discipline by waking up early and then going back to bed. This would be a excellent outlet for projections to happen, but most of the time I just fall to sleep and don't meet my intent.

Lucid Dreams vs. OBE's are very closely related, but what makes them different from my experiences. Validations, changing of environment, clarity of consciousness. False awakenings are tied with OBE's but people dismiss them as a dream.

I can see aura's to a degree and need to work on to perfect my sight. I'm able to see outlines, whitish glow, almost as if its heat radiating around the person or object. The primarily colors are pale white, a soft brown and blue. I can see the energy/aura best under a parking lot lights and on black or white background. Most of the time I am able to see a faint after image of the person or object trail right back in. Almost like a one second delay of the aura playing catch up.

Sepultura123,

A word of advice if you pursue this route to meet your friend. Make sure you tell your friend ahead of time so that they DO NOT think its something evil. Always, have a good heart and intent not to cause harm and respect people's privacy. Even if your heart is in the right way, playing around can be interpreted by the ther person as a physic attack.

Tvos

[Doch]

Nowhere near as many times as I would like. Since I began trying to consciously  AP in February last year, I've probably had maybe 2-3 100% conscious projections. Maybe 5 or 6  70% conscious ones, and perhaps 50 semi-conscious ones.

[David Warner]

Doch,

What kinda of work have you put into this to try induce more obe's?

I shouldn't complain that if I don't project no more 7 times in a month, I'm not doing my best.

Tvos

[Doch]

I do put in quite a good amount of time/work. I took a bit of a break between November of last year up until February of this year, as I started to go slightly mental from a lack of progress. . I did the relaxation/breathing exercises practically every night before that peroid though. I was really strict - I would become quite angry at myself for  missing just one nightly/morning practice. I've also tried every technique under the sun, but had most success with the most basic relaxation/concentration exercises.  

I've been practicing again basically every night in February/March, and had at least one really good OBE. I could probably do a few extra things like keeping a diary, and daily meditations. Perhaps these might might help me?