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« on: March 24, 2004, 23:16:44 »

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 23:29:54 »

By paralysis I mean stone cold paralysis. In that state you still have the ability to will yourself to take deep breaths, I'm not sure if this causes your physical body to breathe deeper or if your astral body is breathing deeper.

Either way, willing yourself to do breathwork will cause you to float out of your body. That is absolutely the truth because it goes straight to the heart of the way the universe is constructed. Everything is vibration, and the reason we get stuck to our bodies in paralysis is that our consciousness matches our physical bodies' vibrational level.

By doing breathwork you raise your energy/vibrational level of your consciousness up to match your astral body's level, that causes you to naturally exit.

My problem is getting to the paralysis state at will. I can do it sometimes by waking up at 4 am or so then going to sleep again, but it's very hit or miss.
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 23:29:54 »

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2004, 17:30:49 »

I have attempted all type of ways to exit during the paralysis with litte luck in most cases.  The breath work/deep breaths did work for me the first time.  It has worked the two times I tried it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2004, 17:41:17 »

Ive heard of this several times before, and I just have one question not about the exiting though. Is there any "method" of something that can be used to induce sleep paralysis? I dont think Ive ever experienced it before, and Im always looking for a new way to try and OBE. Thanks in advance, much love to you all!
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2004, 17:51:11 »

Sleep depravation works very well for me.  Usually occures after working a 17 hour shift and am getting four hours sleep before getting up.  I seem to have the ability to awake at whatever time I tell myself. Sleep paralysis is common at this point.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2004, 18:05:50 »

Ok cube that will hopefully answer my biggest problem with concious OBE's. Let's see if your advise works miracles this time Wink

My question is though, What do you mean by taking deep breaths? I've heard so many people explain this and it always sounds differently.

I can typically get to a state of feeling vibrations and my body feels more like a shell than anything and I have to put forth a little effort to move (I'm assuming this is the known paralysis), but I can never get past that point.

Some make it sound almost like falsing hyperventalation, others make it sound very slow to the point I almost kill myself trying to keep my eyes from blowing out of my skull due to lack of oxygen. Could somebody please be a little more specific? Thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2004, 18:08:36 »

I can vouch for this.  When I was younger, I would sometimes "wake up" and be paralysed.  At the time this triggered a tremdous fear reaction (like being buried alive).  The only way I could "wake up" would be to hold my breath and see if I could get an adrenaline rush going.  I distinctly remember trying deep breaths, then I would "get up", somewhat shaken...but I couldn't see.....

Sound familiar?  It does now, but not at the time.....sigh [Wink]
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2004, 20:00:40 »

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Go to sleep later than you usually do, wake up early.  Later that day take a nap and maybe use some affirmations pertaining to OBE while you are going to sleep.  Dont get too comfortable, maybe leave a window open or a TV on.  This seems to work for me a lot of the time.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2004, 20:49:44 »

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Is there any "method" of something that can be used to induce sleep paralysis?


Go to sleep later than you usually do, wake up early.  Later that day take a nap and maybe use some affirmations pertaining to OBE while you are going to sleep.  Dont get too comfortable, maybe leave a window open or a TV on.  This seems to work for me a lot of the time.

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This regularly works for me also, whether I am intending to attempt OBE or if I have just had too little sleep the night before and take 'forty winks' during the day. Almost always this will lead to either paralysis or a lucid dream, or both.

BTW Cube - Another great topic. You seem to have the hang of the often elusive OBE! Thanks for sharing your insights and experiences.

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2004, 22:43:37 »

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Is there any "method" of something that can be used to induce sleep paralysis?


I don't have a foolproof method for that yet, and I have been looking for quite a while. However it does seem that if you wake up, do not move a muscle, then fall asleep again, there is a good chance you'll wake up in paralysis. It's not 100% but it's pretty good.

The Surprised Body method uses that idea to some extent, although the fact that you have to reset the timer affects things a little. I have attempted it using a CD that has tones at the given times but a CD only lasts 74 minutes so you need two CDs and have to get up and change them so you almost may as well use the timer.


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What do you mean by taking deep breaths?


I am making a site that describes all this and on it I will put an MP3 of the rhythm I use. In words I inhale fully and somewhat slowly in about 2 seconds then exhale fully in about the same about of time. There's no pause in between the tops and bottoms, I am breathing through both my nose and mouth, with my mouth slightly closed. I am forcing air in through my mouth feeling the air rush over my tongue.

I had a dream while ago in which it seemed like a dream trainer told me to slightly pinch off my nostrils in order to generate more air velocity, I haven't really tried that though. For me a big part of it is putting my entire body into the act of breathing and if I have a hand on my face it tends to restrict things. It's sort of like if you're dancing you forget about your body for the most part and are thinking of the rhythm, the rest goes on autopilot.

The breath fills both your upper chest and expands into your stomach.

The last thing you want to do is hyperventilate. If you start to feel a little dizzy just back off a bit. It's not really that hard to find the right cadence that gives you lots of energy and doesn't over-oxygenate you.


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I can typically get to a state of feeling vibrations and my body feels more like a shell than anything and I have to put forth a little effort to move (I'm assuming this is the known paralysis), but I can never get past that point.



It's important to be in full-on paralysis before you start breathwork. If you're in vibrations and you have mild catalepsy then it's too soon to do deep breaths, and in fact if you start them you'll probably just bring yourself out of trance.

For mild catalepsy there are two routes I know of. Ther first is what I've tested so far and the second is what I think may be an even better method.

The method I've tested the most is to just relax into the catalepsy as deeply as I can like I'm going to sleep. This tends to end in a either true paralysis or I go right into the OBE, but it does fail and I don't feel it's optimal because it's a dice roll since you lose control while you relax out of coherency.

I don't like to give out ideas that I haven't tested very well yet but here's what I suspect may be better solution: You conceptualize a point of force similar to Monroe's method. Conceptualize a point of pressure from two sticks that extend from your temples out in front of you.

1.) Move the point around in a circle.
2.) Double the force of pressure in the point.
3.) Conceptualize yourself in that point of force looking back at yourself. Then flip back to your body and go back to step 1.)

I strongly feel that conceptualizing pressure is a powerful technique and it's the basis behind ROPE and also Monroe's method. There is something special about pressure that prepares an area of the RTZ for your consciousness to project into. This is fundamentally different from the sense of sight or hearing, I really think that by conceptualizing pressure external to yourself you are altering reality somewhat, this is something that doesn't happen when you just visualize something.

I've never had a conscious projection but I've made the most progress using methods that involve creating pressure external to my body.

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 23:33:11 »

A DVD can hold 500+ minutes of generic CD audio, a lot more with MP3's.  And lot of people have a 2nd DVD player in their bedroom.  Hmmmmm, I smell a project?
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2004, 23:40:22 »

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A DVD can hold 500+ minutes of generic CD audio, a lot more with MP3's. And lot of people have a 2nd DVD player in their bedroom. Hmmmmm, I smell a project?


That's true, and I'd thought about programming a laptop to do all the tones, but I want to have a solution that costs less than $30 for people to use.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 01:21:18 »

Cube:
1st) Thank you loads for your advice with the breathing situation.

2nd) If you want a solution that would cost less than $30 for the people then I'd suggest the DVD route. Assuming you already have the DVD burner, aside from time $5 per CD or hell even $10 would more than cover the cost of a stack of DVD's and shipping. Simply use reinforced cardboard CD cases, or even bubble envelopes and send it via-snail mail. No extra charge all in all you'd be making a decent profit if you had a good product. I'd be more than happy to host the file off my web server if you don't have a place already to offer it as a download. (I have several gig's of webspace)
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2004, 02:42:39 »

Omnigod,
I should clarify that I don't really intend on selling people things at this point, what I meant was that I'd like to tell people about a method they can use and they can go out and get all the stuff and have it be pretty cheap. I like the DVD idea but it might require people to spend $50 or something on the player itself.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2004, 03:16:41 »

Ahh, understood now Wink Sorry for the confusion. Freedom of information is a much kinder concept anyway Wink. There must be some way to compress the size of the audio to fit more than just 70-80 minutes of audio onto the CD. May require a little more effort, but if you think about all the software with hours worth of audio on one disc it would only make sense.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2004, 03:40:06 »

I suppose one solution would be to get 6 of these:

http://www.polsteins.com/whitcooktim.html

Edit: Dang no it wouldn't because it only goes up to an hour Sad
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2004, 04:26:42 »

why don't you use a mobile phone ? I don't know in your country but here, in Japan, most mobile phones have at last 5 differents programmable alarms with differents melody or buzzers...
I started to try your method yesterday, cube, and i woke up in paralysis, very effective indeed ! I couldn't escape this time, so i assume that i'll take your second advice and will breath deeply...
Thank you very much for this neat method ![|)]
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2004, 04:46:15 »

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That's true, and I'd thought about programming a laptop to do all the tones, but I want to have a solution that costs less than $30 for people to use.


You could write a piece of software to do this for you.  It would be free..assuming you have a computer near your bed.  Actually..I guess most people wouldn't have a computer near their bed. Stupid me.  Nevermind *hits himself in the head* [B)][Tongue]
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2004, 05:25:17 »

The mobile phone idea is clever, I'm not sure how consistent the phones are in the US either. It seems like we have a lot of different phone protocols and it's not all neat and tidy as it should be.


I made an HTML page with javascript in it to play a wave file at a certain time so you can use a computer as an alarm clock, and it wouldn't be hard to make it use intervals. I will update that file and post it to a thread at some point.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2004, 11:39:29 »

Another methods to go OB from SP:

Simply focus on the top of your head. If you are paralised or close to it this focus will loose up the second body enough for separation. No intense concentration is required, the enire process takes about 5-30 sec from start to separation depending on your state. Works similarly than taking deep breaths that is by "raising your vibrational level." It will works from any states close to paralisys or just after you see a stable hypnagogic picture. A very simple and efficient method, highly recommended. (A yet untested idea: regarding the power of breathing, targeting Cube's breathwork to a point just above the head could be easily a stand-alone OBE induction method from sleepy states.)

Sometimes you have to move the focal point upward from your head along the axis of your body in order to get a better grasp on the phantom. This is the natural extension of the method above, works from similar states, but it could be a stand-alone techniqe as well. If I'm able to set a sense of motion of being continously moving upward along the axis of my body I could feel two point of pressure: one in the Hara (between my navel & moron) and a second in the middle of my head. For me this is something that very hard to attain from full waking. I was only successfull two times.

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An mp3 CD (or DVD) player would be the ideal solution. One is almost able to record the full cycle of the signals from Cube's SB method on a regular 74min CD (5+10+15+20+25=75). By slightly decreasing the interwals one even can put an audio track on the end of the CD and wake up fully before the next cycle begins.

When I use the LOG-system I do it with earphones to not disturb my family. I put the other earphone when I turn (I use only one at time). I recommend those models which had a support around the ear, so they will not slip out.


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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2004, 12:33:54 »

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It would be free..assuming you have a computer near your bed. Actually..I guess most people wouldn't have a computer near their bed. Stupid me. Nevermind *hits himself in the head*

I have my Windoze computer sitting within 5 feet of my bed, and my laptop sits right above my head always on when I sleep so all I gotta do is roll over and start typing away any time I want to remember something. [Cheesy]

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I use my cellular phone when I'm at my girlfriends house because she doesn't have an alarm clock or anything. It's unfortunate because it wakes her up as well [B)]

The only negative aspect of using my phone seems to be if I don't correctly exit/accept the first alarm then the rest of them stay silent until you do. Even if that's not until 8:30 the next morning when your sitting in a meeting at your work and the boss is expecting all cell phones to be turned off. [:O] Not that I'd know [Wink]

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I think upstream has a great idea, with a slight tutorial and a little editing you could easily make a program. I'd offer to make an easy one but there is no guarantee's of compatibility...especially with anyone using Linux OS because in vb.net (the language we use here at work) it requires API calls to play audio. Best bet is to use the tools we've got...(winamp/xmms, sample-audio files, and a little tinkering)
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2004, 10:19:56 »

Start taking deep breaths. You'll raise your energy level higher and naturally float out of your body.

Hey! I tried that last night - it worked the first time, but I didn't get very far (just to the top of the stairs).  After that it stopped working and I got two or three mini sleep paralysis which all ended with me waking up.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2004, 23:03:06 »

Start taking deep breaths. You'll raise your energy level higher and naturally float out of your body.

For me, whenever I reach paralysis if I try to roll out of my body or move my arms, I eventually just wake myself up.

The only trick is to just do breathwork and naturally exit without struggle. This has always worked for me within a few seconds.
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