I lay there but nothing happens...

[Gbob]

Last night I simply tried lying in bed for around 40 minutes. I deliberately let my mind wonder and I think towards the end I dipped into a light sleep because there was a point where I was like 'what just happened 5 minutes ago?' I've also tried spending around 10 minutes right after a lucid dream just laying there but again nothing seems to happen. I know not everyone experiences vibrations...I used to, but when I just lay there there are no vibrations at all.

In the past I have also tried techniques, with these I do get vibrations but after a while still nothing happens. So is astral projecting not just as simple as laying there until your body goes to sleep?

Also, when we do this are we actually supposed to get up from the bed as if we are using our physical bodies? If so, then most of the times won't you just physically move your body by accident? Because normally I sort of use my mind to 'pretend' my astral body is separating if that makes sense. Perhaps that's what I'm doing wrong? But surely, once you decide to give up on practicing you will eventually move your physical body anyway...

[CFTraveler]

Last night I simply tried lying in bed for around 40 minutes. I deliberately let my mind wonder and I think towards the end I dipped into a light sleep because there was a point where I was like 'what just happened 5 minutes ago?' I've also tried spending around 10 minutes right after a lucid dream just laying there but again nothing seems to happen. I know not everyone experiences vibrations...I used to, but when I just lay there there are no vibrations at all.

In the past I have also tried techniques, with these I do get vibrations but after a while still nothing happens. So is astral projecting not just as simple as laying there until your body goes to sleep?

The trick is to get to the point in which you are in deep trance, which may include vibrations, but may not- look for a change in conscious awareness.  And if you 'click out' you can still go back to trance, just by not going to sleep again.

Also, when we do this are we actually supposed to get up from the bed as if we are using our physical bodies?

It depends.  If you are paralyzed the answer would be yes, because the movement will propel you out, but if you're not in deep enough then you will move your body.  So try a 'passive method' (like remembering like what it feels to float) or being pulled by a boat while waterskiing, and not an active one (rolling, sitting up, etc.) And see what happens.

Because normally I sort of use my mind to 'pretend' my astral body is separating if that makes sense.

I don't recommend that, because it puts you in the 'observer' mode, and the point is to separate yourself.

[Fresco]

I lay there but nothing happens...

You dont happen to be married do you??!!!   

[Gbob]

  Fresco.

CFTraveler: Well this morning I tried again, I had quite a long lucid dream in which I was intending to astral project from an LD but unfortunately I got distracted by trying to scare people with my telekinetic powers  I locked this family in a car and they were so scared, they were trying to run me over afterwards  lol.

Anyways so after my not-so-constructive LD I lay there again: the transition from LD to laying there awake was very smooth but abrupt. My eyes are closed and I don't move: I try to do the rope technique and imagined someone's hands pulling me out. It's funny I had real problems visualizing these things (unlike usually) - probably because I'm still sort of asleep  I do this for around 5 minutes but there are no vibrations or anything. So I then try to get up as if physically (as I thought I was in sleep paralysis) but my whole body moves   . Fail.

Surely straight after a lucid dream my body must be in sleep paralysis? After every lucid dream and I just lay there, I am never in sleep paralysis...why is that? Also do small things such as swallowing affect the attempt? Say if I failed the attempt and I move my physical body by accident is it possible to still try again immediately or have I already wasted the attempt by moving and have to thus repeat everything again?

[WASD]

Surely straight after a lucid dream my body must be in sleep paralysis?

Not necessarily. I've done movement in dreams which my real body also did and woke me up.

[CFTraveler]

so after my not-so-constructive LD I lay there again: the transition from LD to laying there awake was very smooth but abrupt. My eyes are closed and I don't move: I try to do the rope technique and imagined someone's hands pulling me out. It's funny I had real problems visualizing these things (unlike usually) - probably because I'm still sort of asleep  I do this for around 5 minutes but there are no vibrations or anything. So I then try to get up as if physically (as I thought I was in sleep paralysis) but my whole body moves   . Fail. 

Hmm, why were you expecting vibrations? If you are in trance, then there will be no transition, i.e. no transitional sensations.

Surely straight after a lucid dream my body must be in sleep paralysis? After every lucid dream and I just lay there, I am never in sleep paralysis...why is that?

Not necessarily.  The very end of the sleep cycle, in the end of the REM state, where most lucid dreams happen, is a state when you have already started to wake up, and chances are that when your conscious awareness kicks in the paralyzing hormones (or electric signals) have already stopped working.  The thing is to not move, not open your eyes and do some sort of meditation to get you back in- it can be as fast as a minute (depending on how sleepy you are) to 10-15 minutes, but it is easier than doing it from a fully awake state.

Also do small things such as swallowing affect the attempt? Say if I failed the attempt and I move my physical body by accident is it possible to still try again immediately or have I already wasted the attempt by moving and have to thus repeat everything again?

I think I already answered the question.  You can go back to deep trance by 'going back into the dream', but trying to keep your consciousness awake.