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« on: January 08, 2009, 14:19:05 »

Is it dangerous to project everyday? Some people say its safe even if you do it everyday. I've read it loosens the cord because your used to traveling all the time. I've heard its safe if you do it 1-2 times a week. Any comments?
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 14:28:55 »

I don't think it's physically dangerous, but it can lead to exhaustion.  It's like you're used to sleeping so many hours and all of a sudden are sleeping 2 hours less every night.  Conscious projection requires you to be in the liminal state, and not in deep sleep (for obvious reasons) so your brainwave patterns will not reach deep sleep.  So, it really has nothing to do with any silver cord, it has to do with lack of sleep.
Of course, when you sleep unconsciously, you're already projecting, you just don't remember (dreams are types of projections).  So silver cords have nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 18:27:34 »

Thanks for your answer CFT
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 19:23:40 »

I have been at it for the last 20+ years never had any problems.. Most of the time I am energized, feel great endeavors for the day. A year or so I projected in 23 times in the month of October 2006. That is almost everyday... No problems here..

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 19:29:16 »

Thanks for your answer CFT
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 19:29:58 »

I have been at it for the last 20+ years never had any problems.. Most of the time I am energized, feel great endeavors for the day. A year or so I projected in 23 times in the month of October 2006. That is almost everyday... No problems here..

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Yeah but you're not exactly mr. average, David.   cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 19:40:01 »

I am just another face in the crowd.. nothing different about me that is between you, I and the rest of the world.. we are all the same.. just depends on how far you really want to hit the home run with obe's..

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 21:23:47 »

The body's asleep during projection. How could it lead to exhaustion? I usually feel highly energized after projecting.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 21:34:04 »

Have you guys read Astral Projection and the Nature of Reality? Says something about it
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 03:46:12 »

The body's asleep during projection. How could it lead to exhaustion? I usually feel highly energized after projecting.
Ok, let me try again:
To rest you have to have X amount of deep sleep every day. I can't remember what frequency that is, but I think it's Delta.  I'll have to look up that detail, though.
When you go to sleep you go from Alpha to Theta to Delta and back to Alpha.
When you project you hover around the Theta stage, which is the best state to project out of, and that means that your brain won't get the amount of Delta sleep it usually does.
The act of staying aware during sleep disrupts the body's normal sleep patterns- the act of lucid dreaming and general awareness disrupts these patterns, because lucidity and awareness happen at a different frequency than deep sleep does.
Eventually you get used to the new patterns of sleep, (you adapt, in other words) and then you are no longer exhausted from projecting (or lucid dreaming, etc.)
Some people have a hard time with 'staying in theta'-and end up having insomnia, etc. from these practices.
Some people don't- they adapt with very little adjustment.
It is known that for some people, getting deep sleep is almost impossible- those are the people that develop certain ailments like diabetes and other problems reacting to stimuli when they don't get the deep sleep patterns they need.  The older you get the less deep sleep you get, regardless of how long you sleep- because what matters is the brainwaves reaching a certain frequency for the brain to produce the hormones the body needs to grow and repair itself.  If for some reason you don't adapt well to trance work, and your brainwaves are prevented from reaching deep sleep long enough (like by waking up every so many hours trying to project) the effect will be the same- exhaustion.
So yes, no matter how long your body is 'asleep', if deep sleep is not achieved for x amount of hours a day, physical problems and plain old exhaustion can happen.  This has been documented.

If you project naturally, you probably are projecting at such a time your body is naturally at the theta stage, and are retaining the memory of the experience.  Chances are you feel great afterwards.  But if you don't, are starting out, changing patterns, or forcing the issue (like doing sleep interruption as a means to project) or are simply one of those people who need more Delta than others, you can be affected by it.
 
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 04:56:55 »

CFTravler,

Interupted lack of sleep and returning from the OBE the majority of times I am not exhausted at all. Ready to go and project some more...

I have been able to put myself into the trance state under 10minutes and I have identified that my OBES are normally under 30mins after I have fallen asleep.

All of this is a matter of conditioning, exercise and training. Learning about your body, feeling along with imagination holding that awareness. Most of this came by trial and error but after awhile I figured out how to connect by luck.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 17:25:55 »

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Interupted lack of sleep and returning from the OBE the majority of times I am not exhausted at all. Ready to go and project some more...
  That's great, but you are not the typical projector.  My point is that it can affect some people, and they need to know that they can do this and stay healthy.  Sometimes it's as easy as sleeping a little extra the next morning after a long projection, sometimes it's not an issue at all.
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I have been able to put myself into the trance state under 10minutes and I have identified that my OBES are normally under 30mins after I have fallen asleep.
On good days I can trance fast and easy, pop in and out, but on other days I've had two hour projections that left me useless the next morning.  The thing is that we're all different- my husband can get by with 5 hours of sleep, I often need 10 hours (my eleven year old can't sleep more than 8, even during health problems.  Go figure.)

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This I agree with completely, which is why people need to know all the possibilities, if we think we have them.
I have heard people say that it's ok for example, that it's guaranteed to get you out if you don't sleep for three days and then try to project.  I'd feel really bad if I said "sure" and someone got in a car and killed someone because they were trying to do this following that advice.  And you'd be surprised at the lack of common sense some people exhibit.
That's why I can't say "sure it's 100% safe."  It may be to most people, but there's always someone who can be negatively affected by sleep deprivation, and I have to say it if I feel it's true.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 22:42:56 »

Oh i've heard other things. Like you need energy to have a concious projection. And if you desire to be in the astral all the time more than the physical it becomes a reality. Or something like that
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 23:13:15 »

Ok, let me try again:
To rest you have to have X amount of deep sleep every day. I can't remember what frequency that is, but I think it's Delta.  I'll have to look up that detail, though.
When you go to sleep you go from Alpha to Theta to Delta and back to Alpha.
When you project you hover around the Theta stage, which is the best state to project out of, and that means that your brain won't get the amount of Delta sleep it usually does.
The act of staying aware during sleep disrupts the body's normal sleep patterns- the act of lucid dreaming and general awareness disrupts these patterns, because lucidity and awareness happen at a different frequency than deep sleep does.
Eventually you get used to the new patterns of sleep, (you adapt, in other words) and then you are no longer exhausted from projecting (or lucid dreaming, etc.)
Some people have a hard time with 'staying in theta'-and end up having insomnia, etc. from these practices.
Some people don't- they adapt with very little adjustment.
It is known that for some people, getting deep sleep is almost impossible- those are the people that develop certain ailments like diabetes and other problems reacting to stimuli when they don't get the deep sleep patterns they need.  The older you get the less deep sleep you get, regardless of how long you sleep- because what matters is the brainwaves reaching a certain frequency for the brain to produce the hormones the body needs to grow and repair itself.  If for some reason you don't adapt well to trance work, and your brainwaves are prevented from reaching deep sleep long enough (like by waking up every so many hours trying to project) the effect will be the same- exhaustion.
So yes, no matter how long your body is 'asleep', if deep sleep is not achieved for x amount of hours a day, physical problems and plain old exhaustion can happen.  This has been documented.

If you project naturally, you probably are projecting at such a time your body is naturally at the theta stage, and are retaining the memory of the experience.  Chances are you feel great afterwards.  But if you don't, are starting out, changing patterns, or forcing the issue (like doing sleep interruption as a means to project) or are simply one of those people who need more Delta than others, you can be affected by it.
 

OK, I was wrong. Thanks for teaching me something new Cheesy
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