Is there anything like astral projection?

[Frank]

GS: Sorry, but I only just picked up on your last question of this thread.

I've tried all manner of different techniques and concluded that Astral projection is not about getting the right technique. What matters IMO is a person's sense of expectation; coupled with the realisation their expectations are being met.

Somehow, a person has to begin passively observing what goes on within themselves. How they best begin to do that does tend to differ from person to person. This is where the "techniques" come into play. After a while, however, an automatic process takes over and "techniques" become unnecessary.

Bruce Moen explains it perfectly where he says that his Focussed Attention technique is, in many ways, the equivalent to training-wheels on a bicycle.

Yours,
Frank

[Mirador]

if you try doing it by reading about it and following these rules, you'll never make it!  Most of us never get off the ground, and are content with 'asinine projection'.

[Terry B]

Asinine what?[:O]

[jason]

I have always found that there is never really a "technique" for projection.I find that if a certain method brings results once,it doesn't work again! all these "methods" never work for me more than once or twice.and for the past couple of years, I have been doggedly searching for a guaranteed technique for separation...but I don't think there is one!
this, of course, creates a big problem when it's time to describe what you "do" to have an astral projection.I have been practicing astral projection for the past 12 years or so (mostly undsuccessfully,however,once in a while,something REALLY interesting happens[:O]).I have found that the most important thing by far is the strong need for it to happen, if you just think it's kind of cool,and you'd like to try it,guess what...it probably won't happen!).many techniques describe methods that involve focusing awareness on the physical body,or the physical environment, and trying to make you feel like you are "moving".I find that these techniques invariably never work for me.I used to just ride the wave of energy  that was released after I first attained frighteningly strong vibrations.after that,for years, I would just relax, and it would just happen.there was no "method".I would just be awake and in the process of relaxing,then I would feel the vibrations beginning, so I'd close my eyes,and fire myself into space![]focusing on a "technique" will only lead to frustration, as I have found over the past few years.I have been trying to find the technique.and guess what...I can't do it anymore!
[]
if there is one technique to reccomend though, it would be robert monroe's technique in "journeys out of the body" (or something).it forces you to train your awareness away from the body and its environment.but after you attain that first success,forget it.it will just happen.unfortunately, now I must RELEARN it.[!]

these complications make it VERY hard to describe to someone how they can learn astral projection, aspecially if they are: 1-just wondering about it,but don't actually need to do it,or,2-if they are closed- minded about, and just want to find out if they are right, and it is just all bullsh*t (to them)-of course it will NEVER happen for them!

[Tom]

The biggest problem I have with learning astral projection and with trying to explain it to someone else is that it is such a unique experience. This is especially true of the separation from the body. It is hard to imagine what must be done without having any experience of having done it. Descriptions are good, but they are not as good as examples based on common experiences. Is there anything that most people have experienced (or a combination of experiences) that begins to approach what it is like to succeed with astral projection?