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« on: February 10, 2017, 02:25:20 »

Hi all, it's been a while since I posted but thought I'd ask a straight forward question.  What if any are the limitations in astral projection world? or is the answer simply there isn't? I'd like all your views as there are experiences that id like to have and not sure if it'd be possible.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 05:46:01 »

Of course there are limitations, but that depends entirely on the individual (beliefs, fears, expectations, overall state of mind, etc) For example individuals with destructive, negative thoughts can't go to worlds made of love, light and positivity. This is an energy law, there are no guardians or anything. Different energy types simply cannot coexist for long. Exceptions I think are controlled environments with set rules for learning purposes like our reality. But even here, I found that if I believe that no negative situations or people will come my way, they don't. After I changed my beliefs, my life has changed dramatically, and in the past few years, I have been experiencing only blissful events and people.

From AP experiences, yes, I have encountered limitations. There were times, when I wanted to meet actors I had crushes on LOL. That didn't happen haha, I don't know why. Besides the silliness though, I think everyone experiences limitations. Inability to get to places they want to go, inability to pass through walls, vision issues, awareness issues, etc, but I think many of these are related to the fact that we are still connected to physical vehicles. From what I've read on NDEs, I gather that many of these limitations are absent.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 19:56:17 »

Hi Lightbeam and thanks for the reply. Yeah you've a point when it comes to energy and attracting energy types that reflect what you are, this applies in this physical reality. i noticed the real change in my ife when i started meditation when i was a teenager. From then on my spiritual journey, health, the kind of people that Ive attracted is much improved.

But the main reason that i ask this question about limitations is what are the possibilities of looking and experiencing ones life, specifically events or certain traumatic times in the astral? kind of reliving it only made the more realistic because you are aware of what is happening but as a way to look at and act out a traumatic time but without fear. Is this possible? i know you cant change the event from happening like time travel which im of or change things but to relive and be able to kind of watch with new eyes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 21:41:43 »

Hi Lightbeam and thanks for the reply. Yeah you've a point when it comes to energy and attracting energy types that reflect what you are, this applies in this physical reality. i noticed the real change in my ife when i started meditation when i was a teenager. From then on my spiritual journey, health, the kind of people that Ive attracted is much improved.

But the main reason that i ask this question about limitations is what are the possibilities of looking and experiencing ones life, specifically events or certain traumatic times in the astral? kind of reliving it only made the more realistic because you are aware of what is happening but as a way to look at and act out a traumatic time but without fear. Is this possible? i know you cant change the event from happening like time travel which im of or change things but to relive and be able to kind of watch with new eyes.
 your thoughts please..


light beam has answered your question very well ... the only limitations are what you bring ... their are certainly rules in some environments but not necessarily limits (and there is a difference) ...

if you bring fear of the astral, this will be attracted to you ... if you bring joy and peace, you will attract this ... and if you bring limits, you can attract a similar limited environment ...

realize that you are currently interpreting the astral (with your own thoughts and question) from a biological, three-dimensional, physical perspective ... this immediately limits your experience ... do you see now how "you attract it" before you might even project to there?

finally, realize that you are using your biological brain (which does not project with you) to think about something that requires mind, soul and/or spirit (however you want to word that for yourself) ... you will have to let go of the biological brain's questions to prepare for travel ... and this begins to happen naturally as you detach from the five senses of your physical body (and the biological brain goes to sleep).

like Szaxx often holds forth, "see with your mind" ...

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 01:07:26 »

Hi Lightbeam and thanks for the reply. Yeah you've a point when it comes to energy and attracting energy types that reflect what you are, this applies in this physical reality. i noticed the real change in my ife when i started meditation when i was a teenager. From then on my spiritual journey, health, the kind of people that Ive attracted is much improved.

But the main reason that i ask this question about limitations is what are the possibilities of looking and experiencing ones life, specifically events or certain traumatic times in the astral? kind of reliving it only made the more realistic because you are aware of what is happening but as a way to look at and act out a traumatic time but without fear. Is this possible? i know you cant change the event from happening like time travel which im of or change things but to relive and be able to kind of watch with new eyes.
 your thoughts please..


You can relive anything from your life in the astral. I have relived some dear memories from my childhood and it was so amazing experiencing these past events, but with my current knowledge. There is nothing like it. A lot more enjoyable, because you realize that nothing is ever lost. It's a matter of focus. There is no really past or future, you experience whatever and wherever you focus to in the now. But for negative events, I wouldn't suggest going back to them, unless you wish to extract some knowledge, or understand why did they happen. Whether you will have fear or not depends entirely on you.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2017, 05:24:38 »

I should probably regret it but I once tried to AP to a famous person's house and hang out with them. Well, eventually I became very close to the voice (and some visuals) of this person and it all worked out. Satan got pretty angry though, but that was within me and no there were no rules broken even in doing that. I'd say it's pretty limitless and what you are is what you get.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 23:36:11 »

light beam has answered your question very well ... the only limitations are what you bring ... their are certainly rules in some environments but not necessarily limits (and there is a difference) ...

if you bring fear of the astral, this will be attracted to you ... if you bring joy and peace, you will attract this ... and if you bring limits, you can attract a similar limited environment ...

realize that you are currently interpreting the astral (with your own thoughts and question) from a biological, three-dimensional, physical perspective ... this immediately limits your experience ... do you see now how "you attract it" before you might even project to there?

finally, realize that you are using your biological brain (which does not project with you) to think about something that requires mind, soul and/or spirit (however you want to word that for yourself) ... you will have to let go of the biological brain's questions to prepare for travel ... and this begins to happen naturally as you detach from the five senses of your physical body (and the biological brain goes to sleep).

like Szaxx often holds forth, "see with your mind" ...


thanks S.T. for the above as this really puts things into perspective. You create it before you realise is there, all your preconceived ideas limiting beliefs etc.

In waking life im laid back and have the belief what will be well be. Trying not to gauge with my physical beliefs which are only really useful in the physical reality, should I then in the astral just be laid back and wait for anything to happen with no ideas? or ask something like show me something I need to know so I can grow?
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 00:44:07 »

It really does not matter whether it is astral or physical reality ... the same applies (what many refer to as "law of attraction") ... we create our own reality in both the physical and non-physical.

Remember, once out of body, the biological stuff generally disappears (but not thought) ... so learn to observe your thoughts in both the physical and non-physical.

Some (like William Buhlman and Jurgen Ziewe) hold forth that the deeper we travel into the non-physical, the environments become more thought responsive ... in that case, things happen faster. Even the RTZ is more thought responsive than physical reality from my own experience. We are essentially creating a second body to go there (e.g., try creating a second body here in the physical grin)

However, if you do begin to experience things that you do NOT like (when travelling) ... then form a general plan for each trip and only do the activities in the plan and then end the trip ... this can reduce noise and build confidence (if needed). Having a sense of control is important (which is what you are doing by asking these questions for yourself).
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