Lottery!

[catmeow]

When I tried this (a couple of months ago) I tried to see the 6 numbers from our national lottery whilst LD/OBE.  I got 6 numbers and put a £1 punt on the lottery.  When I checked the results I found I was nowhere close, though I'd actually got 5 numbers from the Euromillions lottery which was drawn the same weekend.  Apparently I bet on the wrong lottery!  Worth a second try... but I guess I'll have to bet on both lotteries in the future!  Hey they just announced the Euromillions lottery on TV as I sit here... maybe it's a sign!!

catmeow

[paint1]

Two years ago I tried using the new gateway program for this. I would go to focus 12, ask for tonights 6/49 numbers. I never saw numbers, always pictures.For example I would suddenly see a picture of six people running around a corner directly at me. I'd see this for what seemed like a half second. Then I was left trying to remember what I saw and how old they were. The most I ever got right was 4 numbers on several occassions. I finally gave it up.

[Telos]

catmeow, will you elaborate on your experience? I have tried viewing lottery numbers many times but the numbers keep changing. Sometimes they literally manifest as falling apart, upside-down, or spinning wildly.

The closest I ever came was when instead of viewing the numbers I viewed the "balls." I flew upwards from my bed and the balls came at me from below, 2 numbers from the Pick 3... I did not see the third one because I was so startled that they might actually be right. I checked the 2 numbers later and they were right (but not in order, which counts for the Pick 3).

Since then I've just been so nervous... I look for other ways to see the numbers, like on a bulletin board or a sign or something. I even asked people to speak it for me, heh, I even called the operator once and asked her. People tend not to be very cooperative! These other ways fail, in the manners I've described above.

[007]

I was trying this morning.  A thought came to me, couldn't we try making the intention of writing the numbers on a paper and pinning it to your wall once they've been announced.  Then, before they've been announced, you could project forward in time and read them off your wall?
Just a thought,
from 007

[catmeow]

Telos, yes of course I'll elabroate... at the time I picked the numbers I simply "guessed" them just as we might do in normal waking life.  At the time, in the LD, I clearly remember thinking "this is ridiculous... all I'm doing is just guessing like I would in normal life".  So I was a bit disappointed with my "technique" so to speak and didn't think it would work.  As you say we kind of expect the numbers to be "shown" to us in some way.  My level of consciousness at the time was basically normal, so it just seemed like regular mental guesswork.

Anyway, when I returned to PWC I wrote the numbers down, even though they were well imprinted in my memory, but I wrote them down all the same.  I picked 6 numbers because our lottery has 6 numbers.  This was on Tuesday morning. So I bought a single ticket for Wednesday's draw and Saturdays draw.  The wednesday draw was a miss.  When I checked the teletext page for Saturday's draw that was a miss too, but on the same teletext page, they gave the numbers for Friday's Euromillions draw (which I'd never heard of).

5 of my 6 numbers matched the main 5 Euromillions numbers.  I don't know how the Euromillions draw works, but there seem to be 5 main numbers and an extra two bonus numbers.  I matched the 5 main numbers, so I guess that would have won something.

I thought it was significant even though it was the wrong lottery because I've tried our lottery a few times and never got anywhere like as close as this to winning anything!

I'm still very unhappy with my technique of just "guessing" and will experiment with some of the ideas you suggested, like getting numbers to reveal themselves...  However, as you're probably aware, reading and observing whilst LD/OBE is troublesome.  I can read things quite easily, but if I then re-read, the words (or numbers) will be different!  I've experimented with this quite a lot, and it's fascinating.  Like reading a street sign, looking away and then looking back again.  The name changes every time.  On one occasion I was watching a clock on the wall, and as I watched it, the hands suddenly jumped into a new position without warning.  The clock was ticking away smoothly and then suddenly the hands would jump!

So if we choose our numbers by observing them, how do we know we've been shown the correct numbers?

Never the less I think it's worth experimenting with....!  I lost interest in picking lottery numbers but this thread has rekindled my interest now....

catmeow

[Telos]

catmeow, thank you! That was fascinating. I never thought of simply "guessing" the numbers while in a dream state. That makes sense for many reasons to me, including the prospect that it would be easier to remember.

I thought it was significant even though it was the wrong lottery because I've tried our lottery a few times and never got anywhere like as close as this to winning anything!

Yes, I agree that it is significant. It would have been less significant, I think, if you had later seen these numbers in a lotto outside of your playable area, like in Asia or something. I find it hard to think that the Euromillions was not even overheard by you at some point in your life. If so, then it may be surfacing to your consciousness now, telling you that you should go for that fish instead.

However, as you're probably aware, reading and observing whilst LD/OBE is troublesome. I can read things quite easily, but if I then re-read, the words (or numbers) will be different!

Yes, exactly. That is why I am unhappy with my reading technique. It's quite unstable. It seems more fascinating to me to experiment by guessing, as you did, which I will now definitely do.

Either way, I'm glad we had this correspondence. I'll let you know of any successes. Until then I wouldn't mind bringing this subject back again sometime later and sharing any new or interesting results.

[catmeow]

Hi Telos

Yeah I was being loose with the term "never heard of".  I'm sure I've heard of the Euromillions lottery in the past, so I'm sure it was in my subconscious, but I've never paid any attention to it and didn't realise we could play the Euromillions here in the UK!  It hadn't registered with me consciously.  It was a genuine surprise to see the results of Euromillions along with our other lotteries...

We used to have one lottery here, but now we have at least three, they keep changing the names and they all have different rules, numbers of balls, bonus balls etc...  My reaction to all of this is just to switch off... and Euromillions was just one more lottery to ignore.  But I'll try to guess a few more numbers now and we can compare notes later...  Trouble is guessing numbers usually spoils/curtails an opportunity for a great adventure!

catmeow

[Telos]

Trouble is guessing numbers usually spoils/curtails an opportunity for a great adventure!

You mean it prevents a good lucid dream adventure? Or life adventure?

[catmeow]

That would be an LD adventure....  I could somehow cope with winning a huge amount of lottery money without it spoiling my life experience!

[Telos]

Ah, yes. Well, I couldn't tell at first!

You shouldn't worry about that, though. After you wake up and write the numbers down, I bet you'd drift right back into cool dream state.

[mhat]

On one occasion I was watching a clock on the wall, and as I watched it, the hands suddenly jumped into a new position without warning. The clock was ticking away smoothly and then suddenly the hands would jump!

this is a little off topic but about the LD and watching a clock... once when i was in a lucid dream (and saying to myself "this can't be real....but it is") there was a grandfather clock and i was watching the hands spin backwards. it was krazy

[007]

hey if you could do the playing card experiment well couldn't you come up with a scheme using something similar to that to predict the winning numbers?
just a thought
007

[unreality]

I was browsing the search for Akashic records and came across this. I think a technique for winning the lottery might be getting your next door neighbor to write down the winning lottery numbers every week or whatever, and put them on his fridge or wall or whatever. Then, whenever you are ready, go take a look at his wall or fridge.

[CANNIBALEX]

go to the future, in real-time zone, of where the lottery draw is.

memorise the numbers

wake up, use those numbers

= win?

[Leyla]

1) Spiritual people are rarely obsessed with great riches.

2) If isn't your "fate" to win the lottery, believe me you won't, not if it isn't supposed to happen.

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3) I don't see anything about me being a lotto winner, but I am supposed to marry a well off, and well connected man. That's close enough for me!!!      

(I only hope he is not ugly and old.)