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« on: June 16, 2016, 12:51:07 »

It's been a while since I last had a lucid dream or an out of body experience. I am really missing such activities which made me recognize for the first time who I truly am and what actually I am capable of. I used to have a lucid dream or an OBE every other day and I gained a very high control level over my powers in the astral. But life goes on, and you know, I have bills to pay and a small family to take care of alongside dealing with negative people almost all the time. Physical life is excrement and very limiting! just sharing what's inside my head with you guys, opinions and thoughts are very welcomed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 17:48:07 »

im in a bit of a dry spell too but i think it happens to most from time to time
it wont be the last time for sure
just keep the intent and you will be back again
life sometimes leaves you a little drained but hey you sleep every night that is a potential chance for a self aware non physical adventure every day of your life
you will be back there again very soon its just a matter of time  grin
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 18:00:35 »

Thanks for the boosting my morals Smiley  you're definitely right. But I think the most important prerequisite is the right mindset. This is the most hard thing to gain in such busy life we live. Usually, I listen to/watch interviews or read books and browse forums like The Astral Pulse to get the right mindset for achieving an OBE or a LD. But lately, I can't even focus on doing such "retrieving" activities!
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 18:06:35 »

Try to get an extra hours sleep for a couple of nights as this starts the ball rolling. If you can use a more mental approach to phasing with the WBTB methodology, you may find things improve.
Total disconnection from the physical at the start also speeds things up.
Forget this world looking for some me time and escape it all.
This may fix the mindset problem and charge the subconcious for fun.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016, 18:22:21 »

i tend to burn the candles at both ends and get the very minimum sleep i need this definatly has an effect on how often i can get a lucid moment as im over tired alot of the time
but ive had great results when ive decided im going to bed early
that extra hour or so can make a big difference being able to doze again before your alarm goes off

my one year old is now sleeping through the night so i dont get my free wake and back to bed wake up call for a bottle (im not complaining lol) but that really did help with lucid experiences during the early days of both my children

i think sleep patterns are just as important as reading up and having the intent in your subconscious
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016, 22:28:18 »

Same for me. Dry spell for such a long time.

Seems I have 'unlearnt' almost everything.  undecided

Yes, life problems can be very 'grounding' indeed.

At least some meaningful dreams have not yet left me. But not every night.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 01:51:50 »

You guys worry too much about "dry spells".  Smiley
Projecting isn't that important.  At least, it's not as important as actually living your life here the best you can.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 03:13:54 »

i dont worry about them at all
i take my experiences as and when they come and am grateful that i am lucky enough to be able to even have them
my main motivation is enjoying time with my family
night time conscious adventures are just another hobbie really Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 11:32:38 »

i dont worry about them at all
i take my experiences as and when they come and am grateful that i am lucky enough to be able to even have them
my main motivation is enjoying time with my family
night time conscious adventures are just another hobbie really Smiley

This IS how it should be approached and as Xanth says, live your life.
I too have not had much I can recall due to loooong days lol.
Things are still occurring but the recall is terrible.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 11:49:13 »

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Projecting isn't that important.  At least, it's not as important as actually living your life here the best you can.

Thirded.

Which is funny, granted where we are, here on the Pulse!  cheesy

I think a lot of people tend to associate things like projection with "spiritual ability" or advancement or status, and that can confuse matters. Which isn't to say it doesn't have its own value, but it is one part of our very rich lives here in this world! All things in balance.
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2016, 21:29:38 »

At least some meaningful dreams have not yet left me. But not every night.

IMHO, "meaningful dreams" are as welcome and satisfying as a full conscious OBE. As long as I am remembering at least one dream per night I am not too worried about the situation. Sleep deprivation is a problem for most of us in this modern age. I have a fairly reliable method for projection but it requires that I am getting plenty of sleep time. Getting plenty of sleep often takes a back seat to daily physical activities and responsibilities. For me, several nights in a row with at least 9 hours of sleep is needed. Otherwise, the projection sequence simply carries me quickly into a deep sleep.

I also notice that my OBEs start to fizzle out rapidly when I am successfully projecting several days in a row and even just a weekly basis. At one point I adjusted my intent and focus over to Lucid Dreaming because my OBEs were becoming so mundane and uneventful. Getting out into the RTZ is pretty straightforward but getting into the true 'astral' realm and higher requires that I practice my Spiritual Exercises diligently every day and all day... and this can be a pretty tall order.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 02:30:16 »

Which is funny, granted where we are, here on the Pulse!  cheesy
Indeed. I was just beginning to wonder.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2016, 12:47:05 »

Thank you guys for your informative replies, I really appreciate them. Actually, the main reason I am messing my adventures in the astral, is the great since of freedom I felt there, a freedom I have never felt before in physical/real life. Also I am missing an astral friend/dream character/my subconscious/higher self which used to materialize as a beautiful traditional Japanese woman wearing a dark green kimono (that's truly weird as I live in Egypt!), who cared for me and loved me so much, she was present in some of my nonphysical adventures and each time I decided it's time to return to the physical, she was beside me looking worried/concerned/caring asking me: "are you sure you will return safely to your body? need any help?!"
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 07:03:29 »

Indeed. I was just beginning to wonder.
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And seriously... It's more funny since I'm the administrator here and those are the words *I* typed.  hehe
The administrator telling people to not worry about projecting!  HA!  Smiley

People really need to put things into perspective.  
I know this is only my experience, but it's an experience I try to share as much as possible... one of the most valuable lessons I've ever learned through my projections is that "Projecting" really isn't important.  If your goal is spiritual in nature, as in you want to better yourself as a person, a human being or as a being of consciousness...

... then the absolute best thing you can do for yourself is to learn to Love (as close as you can) *EVERYONE* as much as you can.  Be as kind as you can.  Everyone deserves it... even your worst enemy... ESPECIALLY your worst enemy, as they need your love the most.

When you start doing that... when you start growing as a being of consciousness, you'll begin to see how everything we experience in all planes of existence are intertwined.  You'll begin to open more to the truth of reality and, I guarantee, it *WILL* hit you like a tonne of bricks changing your life forever in ways you can't even begin to consider right now.

I choose to continue to administrate this forum because I know where it will eventually lead you... and it's not projection.  It's THROUGH projection where you will learn that lesson though.  So I teach.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 11:06:16 »

The what's in it for me statement we all hear and say at some time in our lives should really be what's the best thing to do for the betterment of mankind.
This starts when we stop and think before saying or doing anything. Being diplomatic in our answers, if everyone on the planet did this action, would cease all wars and make the Earth a nicer lace to live.
We escape the planets current mindset of mine, mine, mine by projecting into far nicer environments, why not evolve our thoughts one step and start things in this direction by being more loving towards each other?
The nicer environment will be this planet when done.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2016, 09:17:18 »

Szaxx, I think you exposed the true nature when you wrote of escaping the mindset of this planet. My desire to project could border on desperation to escape this reality at times. I have spent most of my life thinking of the amazing things I want to do that are not possible in this reality. The idea that these experiences I have day dreamed are something I can actually have through astral projection is like a beacon I can't turn away from. I never thought it would be possible to have these experiences, even with virtual reality, prior to joining this forum.

Sometimes I think that the ability to project willingly is being withheld from me because I regard it as the ultimate experience. I try to treat all experience as equal, however, some experiences thrill me and others don't. I have come to believe that the thrill is a beacon to the self.

If astral projection truly is as powerful as I believe I am not sure that I agree that it doesn't matter Xanth. The ability to astral project at will would change my life in a bigger way than anything I have experienced. I believe in the objective of love, but it is such an abstract concept I can't get my head around it honestly. Loving my fellow man without projection isn't going to solve as many problems as it would if I could obtain advanced knowledge to generate free power like a Nichola Tesla character.

Perhaps I am a fanatic. Don't we have a responsibility to do more with astral projection, or is it not what it is cracked up to be?
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2016, 12:34:32 »

Szaxx, I think you exposed the true nature when you wrote of escaping the mindset of this planet. My desire to project could border on desperation to escape this reality at times. I have spent most of my life thinking of the amazing things I want to do that are not possible in this reality. The idea that these experiences I have day dreamed are something I can actually have through astral projection is like a beacon I can't turn away from. I never thought it would be possible to have these experiences, even with virtual reality, prior to joining this forum.

Sometimes I think that the ability to project willingly is being withheld from me because I regard it as the ultimate experience. I try to treat all experience as equal, however, some experiences thrill me and others don't. I have come to believe that the thrill is a beacon to the self.

If astral projection truly is as powerful as I believe I am not sure that I agree that it doesn't matter Xanth. The ability to astral project at will would change my life in a bigger way than anything I have experienced. I believe in the objective of love, but it is such an abstract concept I can't get my head around it honestly. Loving my fellow man without projection isn't going to solve as many problems as it would if I could obtain advanced knowledge to generate free power like a Nichola Tesla character.

Perhaps I am a fanatic. Don't we have a responsibility to do more with astral projection, or is it not what it is cracked up to be?

100% agree.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2016, 15:22:34 »

Perhaps the ego is interfering here. Wanting to escape is a nice thought, it's also a personal desire. The NP is where everything is interconnected and the whole itself is of paramount importance to its operations.
Saving yourself from physical toils isn't important, it may be considered as a failure or weakness. Wanting to do more for the whole outside of the physical can lead to a massive unforgettable adventure. I've had a few of these and they are totally unforgettable.
Mindset is the problem, think bigger and things may change for the better.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2016, 15:30:19 »

One of the most things I've ever wanted to do is to go to the moon and look at earth from their. I wish I could do so someday. Did anybody here managed to do so? (or maybe something close enough?).
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2016, 17:17:38 »

If astral projection truly is as powerful as I believe I am not sure that I agree that it doesn't matter Xanth. The ability to astral project at will would change my life in a bigger way than anything I have experienced. I believe in the objective of love, but it is such an abstract concept I can't get my head around it honestly. Loving my fellow man without projection isn't going to solve as many problems as it would if I could obtain advanced knowledge to generate free power like a Nichola Tesla character.
And you're 100% right.  The ability to project DOES change your life in a bigger way.  Just not in the way you THINK it will.  Smiley
It teaches you to embrace this physical life of yours to a much greater degree.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2016, 18:06:22 »

One of the most things I've ever wanted to do is to go to the moon and look at earth from their. I wish I could do so someday. Did anybody here managed to do so? (or maybe something close enough?).

I've travelled to places like the moon and further before I was 10. Now when I look at these experiences, it's like looking at a grain of sand and totally missing the beach.
You'll get to do some things you want and then you'll see a far bigger picture.
It's this that puts you in awe.
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