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« on: March 06, 2012, 23:50:54 »

Around 3:30 am on 3/4/12, my girlfriend was awakened after feeling my body go into a state of vibrations. She felt my heart beat racing also. Then she said the vibrations stopped, and she heard me stop breathing without a noticeable heartbeat. She said a few seconds later she saw a white image of me at my bedroom doorway. The she heard me making a knocking sound on the dresser in the bedroom. She then got scared and pulled the covers over her face. She doesn't know anything about out of body experiences or vibrations. She has never had an OBE either.

All I can remember is attempting an OBE technique that utilizes the high pitch sound in your head. I thought I fell asleep. But I must had an unconscious OBE.

Has anyone here ever had anyone see them in an OBE?
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 01:25:46 »

Did you tell her you were going too do it before hand?

Maybe it was her manifesting it in her dream

Interestin as though
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 01:42:00 »

I didn't tell her before hand. She has never heard of OBE's before. After it happened, I had to do alot of explaining. I was worried she would leave me.

She claims she was awake the entire time. There is no way to know for sure.

After this experience, I decided to do some internet searching and found this quote. In H.P. Blavatsky's esoteric instructions No. 5, she wrote "No two persons can be simultaneously conscious of one anotherís presence in the projection of consciousness". This may explain why I wasn't conscious of it. Oliver fox in "Astal Projection" said the same thing.

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 03:35:32 »

She may have been in trance.  My husband has woken to see me floating next to him, and has felt my vibes also- but I think he was in trance, and was viewing it clairvoyantly.  I'm pretty sure I don't levitate.   smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 04:09:52 »

Thanks CFTraveler for the information. I think you're right. She might of been in trance. If she was wide awake, she would of tried to wake me up, or she would of screamed. Being in trance or sleep paralysis, she was unable to move or speak.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 04:58:22 »

This is interesting. All good replies. I noticed when I tapped my grandma many different times she wasn't aware of my presence. But when I entered my body again, I went upstairs to see her in the same clothes and doing the same thing I saw her doing in the astral, and I hadn't seen her all day. It was a fantastic experience.  smiley I think that was my validation I was looking for... Or one of them at least. Who knows what will happen next. She had no clue I was shouting right in front of her.
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 15:29:45 »

Hi guys ! I know what is it.. She hadn't been in trance,but she had been in hypnagocic state ! That's a state before you start sleeping. Often it can cause hallucinations. I've experienced 3-4 times. For example i was sleeping in bed next to my father's. He needed to turn to his other side in bed. So he made a screeching noise (long about 2 seconds). What i heard is that the noise was about 10 seconds long and my father is bouncing up and down.. Hallucinations for sure !
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 18:19:18 »

Awesome cool!
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 22:02:24 »

Hi guys ! I know what is it.. She hadn't been in trance,but she had been in hypnagocic state ! That's a state before you start sleeping. Often it can cause hallucinations. I've experienced 3-4 times. For example i was sleeping in bed next to my father's. He needed to turn to his other side in bed. So he made a screeching noise (long about 2 seconds). What i heard is that the noise was about 10 seconds long and my father is bouncing up and down.. Hallucinations for sure !
The hypnagogic state happens when in deep trance.  Po-tay-toes, po-tah-toes.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 22:11:00 »

So it WAS an hallucination!???
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 22:14:58 »

No.... a hallucination isn't 'something that isn't happening'- a hallucination is something you see that may not be what it seems, like a mirage.
DMT in your pineal gland makes your brain 'see' the information you are 'projecting' into your visual cortex- just like you see what you're dreaming.
However, when you see something that 'isn't' there, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, since the pineal gland reacts to stimulus that is there- even if it isn't photons. 
So it's possible that she did 'see' your projected energy body, but not with her eyes- just as clairvoyants 'see' what happens far away or in the future- nonphysical information expressed by the images your visual cortex sees.
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 00:55:38 »

The hypnagogic state happens when in deep trance.  Po-tay-toes, po-tah-toes.

Not pretty sure about that...
As i said earlier i had similar situation. Hypnagogic state may appear when the mind is conscious (not in deep trance). I asked my father why is he bouncing up and down and he laughed me. It was in real time so i am sure it was a hallucionation.
I guess it depends from the frequency of the alpha waves.
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 02:36:21 »

You can be awake and aware in deep trance- it's called 'Alpha intrusion' in medical circles.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 20:53:56 »

In H.P. Blavatsky's esoteric instructions No. 5, she wrote "No two persons can be simultaneously conscious of one anotherís presence in the projection of consciousness". This may explain why I wasn't conscious of it. Oliver fox in "Astal Projection" said the same thing.
I don't recall Oliver Fox saying that, but if he did it was probably because he was deep into Mme Blavatsky's theosophical teachings.

However Fox did relate the "Elsie Projection" where his gf Elsie appeared to him one night after boasting that she could AP too. She appeared as a full sized recognisable figure in his house. They were both aware of it at the time and compared notes later. I personally don't agree with Blavatsky's statement. In fact I have had shared astral experiences myself where both parties were conscious and aware.

Regarding the hypnogogia/trance thing, your gf may have been in hypnogogia, it is very common and does not invalidate what she saw. During hypnogogia we are much more attuned to clairvoyance/ESP etc. The label 'hallucination' is commonly applied to hypogogia but giving something a label does not reduce its value.

todd would you like to add your experience to the Validation thread?

www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/validation_thread-t25607.0.html

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 21:27:41 »

I added my experience to the validation thread.

I looked in Oliver Fox's book again. You're right that both him and Elsie saw each other. I guess I must of been referring to Oliver's other experience with his friend Barrow on pages 49-52 of the 1974 paperback edition.

Update: My girlfriend is an OBE addict now, lol. That is all she talks about now. Seeing is believing.

Has anyone ever given any thought into the Rand 1 million dollar paranormal challenge?
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 21:34:33 »

Update: My girlfriend is an OBE addict now, lol. That is all she talks about now. Seeing is believing.

Has anyone ever given any thought into the Rand 1 million dollar paranormal challenge?

Lol, I think its hard not to become an addict when you first discover it.

As for the challenge, I don't know anything about it but I believe it has been discussed briefly in this thread:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/astraltravelers_why_dont_you_help_in_locating_criminals_terrorists-t36583.0.html
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2012, 01:13:18 »

Thanks for adding to the Validation Thread.

It's really gratifying to find others reading the wonderful old classics like Oliver Fox. I loved his book it was one of the first I books I read on the subject. The Farewell Song at the end is wonderful.

Re Randi's challenge, I have said it before and will say it again, it's a joke. Randi's Ts&Cs allow him to be arbiter and final judge. If he is unhappy with the experiment in any way, he is allowed to dismiss it and demand that you redo it. So basically, if you succeed he will find some reason to discount the successful attempt and get you to repeat. He will do this until you fail, and then announce that you failed his challenge, discrediting you in the process, because of course all that will get published is that you failed.

Randi should allow an independent panel to construct the test, agree on success and fail criteria and butt out of the arbitration process.

When I was a teenager, and my mother was alive, I could hypnotize her with a glance. When hypnotised she could accurately describe all sorts of things happening around, with her eyes closed and her back turned. She described scenes I had set up in other rooms in the house. She exhibited 'conference of sensation'  when instructed. Basically I would pinch myself painfully and she would feel the pain herself, rubbing her arm or leg, corresponding to the part of my own body I had pinched. She had her eyes closed and head turned away. She was NEVER wrong.

Such was her accuracy and reliability that I could have walked Randi's challenge. However, I have absolutely no doubt that under Randi's bitter skeptical gaze, the 'magic' would have evaporated.  Even if the magic worked Randi would have found some reason to discount the successful results.

The man can not be trusted. He is at least as untrustworthy as the worst fake psychics I have seen, and I have seen a few. A bitter angry man, a bad skeptic, a third rate magician, and a man who will never give up his $1 million.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2012, 04:27:17 »

I went to Randi's forum a while ago. All they do on that forum is trash mouth anyone who believes in anything but the physical plane. It was a very depressing experience.


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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2012, 17:12:27 »

I went to Randi's forum a while ago. All they do on that forum is trash mouth anyone who believes in anything but the physical plane. It was a very depressing experience.
Agreed, I have seen posts such as "By definition ESP does not exist, therefore he is cheating. QED." That is supposed to be critique!
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 00:44:58 »

On 07/13/12 at 12:30 am, my girlfriend had another experience with me being out of body. I felt myself slip out of body, and I consciously hovered a couple of feet above my body. I did this for two minutes while holding this position. I then entered back into my body and my physical body jolted.

While out of my body, I saw my girlfriend next to me with an expression of awe.

When I re-entered my body, she asked me if I was out of body. I said yes. She said she knew because she felt a dense energy on top of her legs that remained there for two minutes. And she saw my physical body jolt shortly after.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 00:02:27 »

Interesting.... thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 03:10:08 »

I absolutely love reading stories like yours where projectors and their loved ones are able to share their experiences together.  What you have is a gift.  Congrats!
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 03:58:52 »

I have often woundered how many ghosts were really   living  people just  out of body .  It is a belief we all go out of body during sleep , but dont remember .  desert rat 
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 14:52:03 »

I have often woundered how many ghosts were really   living  people just  out of body .  It is a belief we all go out of body during sleep , but dont remember .  desert rat 

Many of my current projections occur in the house I grew up in.  They begin in my current bedroom, but when I open the bedroom door, I am back in the house I grew up in all those years ago. This was where I had my first projection experiences, experiences which are still to this day very clear in my mind. I sometimes wonder if I am now "haunting" my childhood home, and I wonder what would happen, if, out of curiosity, I turned up on the doorstep of that house. Would the present occupiers recognize me as the "ghost" who haunts their house?!
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2012, 15:45:39 »

I have had flying dreams that I am sure were from being out of body .  I willed my self if I did meet some while out of body while asleep to give them my  cell  phone number , I did get some out of state calls where no one spoke .  This is a post by me on another forum of this lady mistaken for a ghost I believe it is a true story http://halfway.oceanfalls.org/index.php?topic=2688.0     desert rat 
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