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« on: March 26, 2002, 19:00:53 »

WHOA!     That's a scary thought, man.  I've often thought of that.   What if one of my friends is projecting and watching me right here in the shower.....   Of course, I don't let it bother me too much but what if the government did employ projecters as spys???     Very interesting....

This means 2 things:
They can see us naked . . . AND . . .
That brings up a lot of new job possibilities for people in this forum!  

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2002, 20:01:27 »

I believe its definately going on either through OBE,s or R.V,as to
whether they would want to look at you in the shower as oppossed
to say; seeing where Saddam or Osama are or looking inside the
sphinx,pyramids or military installations .
I believe that after SRI ( Stanford Research Institute )closed & all
their R.Vers like Joe Mc Moneagle & Skip Atwater went & started
their own schools apart from the military,that the military or CIA
or both continued to conduct R.V & OBE spying & still do.
I think it would be some serious stuff they are looking at too,
how was it that planets & rings of Saturn & face on Mars were
discovered before we had telescopes or space probes.
Team of successful real time travellers? Definately

Journeys? yours? the best.

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2002, 20:01:27 »

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2002, 20:08:42 »


Greetings Qui-Gon!

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..spying "method"...  it just hit me it must be, I´m sure good old US of A have a covert program with a team of full time OBE´ers out there.....   they could check out EVERYTHING in their "real-time-doubles"... I know they´ve had covert remote viewing programs financed by the government for many years, probably still have today but wouldn´t it be more effective with a TEAM of successful real-time travellers, what do you think??
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Indeed this is an excellent point you make. RV is perceptual (as I understand it), whereas with an OBE in the RTZ it is the same as being there - i.e. a reflection of sensory physical reality. I would be amazed if this was not occuring right now.

Of course, if it was occuring, we would not know about it that's for sure

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2002, 23:37:26 »

Oooh,  what a very interesting concept.  I'm very intrigued now!    

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Mobius:
I think it would be some serious stuff they are looking at too,
how was it that planets & rings of Saturn & face on Mars were
discovered before we had telescopes or space probes.
Team of successful real time travellers? Definately


I agree.  There are lots of things that the government discovers, that no one could possibly know without some sort of psychic awareness or astral travel going on.  

I'm curious as to what some of you think that we have discovered via OBE's and r.v.  I like the idea of the rings of saturn and other planets.  What about black holes and other space information.  A telescope alone could tell us what happens in a space void or how cold the furthest depths of space are.  Very cool....

 
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2002, 08:58:12 »

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I think it would be some serious stuff they are looking at too,
how was it that planets & rings of Saturn & face on Mars were
discovered before we had telescopes or space probes.
Team of successful real time travellers?


 Mobius, are you suggesting we knew about the Mars on Face and rings of Saturn, before we had any "known about" means, such as telescopes or/and space probes??
  I don´t know in what years we "discovered" these(history ain´y my major subject), but it sounds a bit far off, the ones who went public with these discoveries must have stated where from they got the information - and I sure they didn´t said it was from a team of astral travellers...  so obviously we must have had telescopes up there with the satellites (sp?), or??
   
What did you base those interresting statements on?

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2002, 09:05:31 »

Mars on face, jeeee... my bad!!  (would be quite a pressure with risk of a skull fracture..)

  I´ll use the preview button in the future before posting......

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2002, 09:26:19 »

I have no doubts that the US government uses OOBE to get information, there are possibly even OOBE travellers at this moment searching the Afghan cave network for Bin Laden.

 
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2002, 09:51:00 »

Hi Froggman & Qui Gon Jin,the face on mars was announced 2 years before the sattalite scanned mars it was,
James Hurtak of "the keys of enoch/the book of knowledge" to
astronomers & NASA & was rumoured to be the reason they chose that
particular area to first photograph that & Cydonia out all other possible locations.
The planets were found depicted on ancient Sumerian,Egyptian &
Indian tablets/plates.Some showing 9 planets others showing 12.
One cylinder seal from the sumerians is 4,500 years old depicts
10 planets:State Museum,East Berlin,catalogue no.VA/243
They aslo described what uranus & neptune looked like.

If you would like to get some more info on this you could start with
Zecharia Sitchin 6 books,get them at the library 1st & then see if
you want to buy them,Erik Von Danniken,James Hurtak & start buying
NEXUS magazine as they cover every subject in this forum & more.

Great journeys

Mobius

 
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2002, 15:53:44 »

Thx Mobius, don´t know wether or not we have NEXUS here in Sweden though, perhaps it´s on the internet...   heard about Sitchin and Danniken plenty of times, seen them on the tellie a few times, but not read anything from them..  perhaps I should check out some of their books, an interresting subject to say the least...
 take care// Qui-Gon

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2002, 21:59:14 »

G,day Qui-Gon Jinn,your right NEXUS only publishes in
Australia,New Zealand,USA,Canada & the UK.But you can get their
stuff over the net & order any particular issues thats interests you.
I,ve been collecting them for about 5 years now as they are the most
up do date & informed on topics such as OBE,s,Metaphysics,UFO,s,
Future science & behind the news headlines.They also have a lot of
stories for free on the net.

www.nexusmagazine.com

All the best on your journeys

Mobius

 
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2002, 06:25:51 »

Thx for the URL, I found some really interresting articles there, for example the ones about free energy (which everyone on the planet should read and get at least a lil clue of what is going on...) and stargate..    I´m gonna try and get NEXUS in the future, that´s for sure...   take care// Qui-Gon

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2002, 07:13:03 »

No worries mate, great to see you like the same sort of stuff.
I like that free energy story as well & have read quite a bit about
Nikola Tesla in the past & believe he is the most underated
scientist of our time.The stuff he came up with made Einstein look
like an amateur & many remnants of his work is still around like
the Tesla coil.
It seems that giant power & petroleum companies have gone all out
to supress any of these inventions & when they decide that enough
oil has been pumped out of the earth & enough money has been made they
will come to our savior with all these inventions that have
mysteriously disapeared & they now own the patents to.
Probably free but with lots of attatchments like;perishable parts,
montoring,& limited lifespans to ensure profits.
It just makes you angry doesnt it at our predictable predatory
nature.Anyway glad to be of any help.

Good luck on your journeys

Mobius

 
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2002, 17:12:05 »

Oh I´m VERY interrested in free energy, because I´ve learned to know the implications it´ll bring if brought forward from the rouge extremly powerful iron fists keeping it secret from the public.
 
  After all, if we can´t get free energy devices "declassified" and up running in the next few years (it´ll take some 10-20 years to get them manufactured and spread around the world once the devices are "out there"), the eco system will collapse (it´s already started, and will keep on doing so in a faster and faster pace unless free non-polluting energy pops up from "nowhere") and that means the planet will pretty much collapse with a capital C. People haven´t realized this sadly enough and seems to be thinking; "Well I´m dead anyway way before any major environmental "destruction" begin so why really bother"...  which is wrong, and even it was true it wouldn´t be very responsible thinking would it..  

   If only "our adults" acted in an adult way, and had the mentality of I think it was the cherokee (sp?) indians (not the car), that for every action they took they had in mind the implications it will hold for 20 generations yet unborn...    
  ..a man inside Washington said that long term planning in Washington is 6 months.......

  ..well that sums up my "interrest" in free energy I reckon´... Wink

    Be well// Qui-Gon

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2002, 17:36:15 »

Greetings!

No doubt that motor vehicles are one of the major environmental disaster areas, and one upon which the whole plant has come to depend. The problems of course are the extraction of fossil fuels, and, in particular, exhaust waste output.

I have seen demonstrations of Hydrogen powered cars, which are every bit as fast and efficient as petrol driven. The bye-product is good old water - 2 hydrogens combine with an oxgen as combustion occurs. I also have in mind, rather than spewing the water vapour into the atmosphere, having condensation units and collection tanks under the vehicles to collect the water. That water could then be used for any household purpose - watering the lawn, washing the car, even drinking if purified first. It solves pollution and water shortages in one fell swoop - how green do people want to get?

The rain forests are a *very* major concern - a major source of the planets oxgen - and carbon dioxide absorption due to photosynthesis. That, and global warming, are huge threats, which this generation are leaving as a legacy to future generations unless something is done very soon.

Best regards,

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2002, 19:22:59 »

It's a tragedy,

  If you'd like to try something interesting, go outside/travel to a very natural area, and sit by yourself.  Complete the relaxtion, trance techs, etc. whatever works for you.  Once the vibrations begin, focus your "awareness" into the planet, and just "feel" the expansiveness of good ole Mother Earth.  I cannot, relate it well through text, but if you..."link" to the Earth structure you will be aware of the overwhelming Energy of the planet, and the deep wounds it is trying to heal...it makes me weep to think about it, and sitting around as *another* planet dies (better than entire solar systems eh..lol)...but what can you do?

Jason

 
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2002, 23:53:07 »

As they say (scientists) information is doubling every 2 years &
a lot of the planet is waking up to our destructive nature.
Adrian I,ve heard of that Hydrogen car a few times now,why the hell
wont they use it?
It seems to me we have to look at ourselves & what sort of
governments & political systems we operate beneath.
I believe its time to look at a new system that benefits all mankind
& future generations.Its obvious that in the past Monarchies,
Dictatorships,Communism,Marxism,Totalitarianism have all failed &
I believe that to be the case with Capatilism as well.
While I benefit from living in a 1st world country & the freedoms it
provides & am doing nicely myself,I intrinsically know its wrong.
I know there is a natural selection process in nature & some people
just are not born into wealth but have incredible personal
potentials that are never realized because of our predatory
nature to look after ourselves first & capatilism has ensured
dirty tactics are used & those that are privy to the "right"
information are always going to be far out in front,regardless of
their abilities & their use to fellow man.
What can we do to make use of all people & resources without ripping
our planet to pieces in the name of profit & at the same time
provide the freedom needed to pursue further experience & knowledge.
I,m almost in the working field of Genetics now & I can see a
future where there will be designer babies as natural births just
wont meet the criteria needed by litigous concious organizations.
At birth it can allready determined what diseases or illnesses you
are likely to get,if you are predisposed to alchohol,drugs,violence,mental illness,disorders,early death & IQ
potential.The insurance companies & major employers are busting to
get this info & many hospitals around the world have a D.N.A sample
of every baby going back to the 60,s.
Its just getting beyond a joke & it will throw very capable people
on the scrap pile,before they even get a chance.
I know I got off the topic a bit but I believe that its closely linked
Free energy & Capatilism.

Good luck on your journeys

Mobius

 
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2002, 18:06:05 »

..spying "method"...  it just hit me it must be, I´m sure good old US of A have a covert program with a team of full time OBE´ers out there.....   they could check out EVERYTHING in their "real-time-doubles"... I know they´ve had covert remote viewing programs financed by the government for many years, probably still have today but wouldn´t it be more effective with a TEAM of successful real-time travellers, what do you think??

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