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« on: February 02, 2016, 22:53:18 »

I have noticed a pattern in my astral projections where almost every time I gain dream control I immediately use it to manifest dream sex. It is never much fun, I have read that astral sex can be amazing, but this is usually some kind of weak emulation without much real sensation.

I have come to feel like these inclinations are somehow holding me back from doing something more significant in my dream time. Any ideas on how to proceed?
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 00:26:50 »

I have noticed a pattern in my astral projections where almost every time I gain dream control I immediately use it to manifest dream sex. It is never much fun, I have read that astral sex can be amazing, but this is usually some kind of weak emulation without much real sensation.

I have come to feel like these inclinations are somehow holding me back from doing something more significant in my dream time. Any ideas on how to proceed?
Hey Thaomas.  On Sept 14th 2013 I made this post in the "Masturbation/Incubi and Succubi" thread while using my "old name" there. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_psychic_and_paranormal/masturbationincubi_and_sucubi-t466.25.html

 The first step to overcoming and confronting this problem is realizing there is a problem to begin with. I went through this stage as well whereas "lust" was controlling my actions once I became consciously aware in a Dream or actually even a OBE from a SP episode would lead to lust as well. I found it strange because I am not a lustful person in "real" life here. But, I also saw it as a step forward. It really helped me to learn control over not only myself but also some of my "other realm" environments as well.

 Many times things that we deem as negative are actually really a blessing in disguise. The "other realms" and this physical realm as well, have some strange ways of teaching us important lessons in life in general.  
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 00:43:11 »

had the same problem for a while every time i would become lucid in a dream i would go find the nearest female to have my way with
in the early days i would always go flying but then this rather lengthy patch of lust kicked in
one of the last moments i had i could actually witness myself about to do it again and kind of took a step back in the scenario and made a conscious decision to go and do something more constructive

i think its just another little hurdle we have to overcome (and im by no means there yet) but having a goal in your head and actual intent on what your going to achive will help rather than just bimbling around in default pleasure mode
i dont think theres anything wrong with it but agree its basically mental masturbation and time that could be spent digging much deeper 


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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 01:37:34 »

I have noticed a pattern in my astral projections where almost every time I gain dream control I immediately use it to manifest dream sex. It is never much fun, I have read that astral sex can be amazing, but this is usually some kind of weak emulation without much real sensation.

I have come to feel like these inclinations are somehow holding me back from doing something more significant in my dream time. Any ideas on how to proceed?
There's two kinds of "astral sex"... the kind where you re-create normal physical sex and then there's the kind where you actually merge your energy (your BEING) with another entity.
It's like the different between the "intellectual" level and the "being" level.

They *ARE* holding you back.  You need to learn to get past your sexual frustrations in order to move towards doing other, more productive things.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 05:44:25 »

"Bimbling around in default pleasure mode"  That deserves the award for phrase of the day fowlskins!  grin

Thaomas,
I will add a couple thoughts to reinforce the good advice everyone is giving you.

You are right, this issue IS holding you back for the moment. But it is an entirely normal issue that nearly all of us have to overcome initially.

This is a test...and it is one of the more important tests that projectors face, like dealing with fear. Whether this is a purely organic, natural kind of issue to overcome or something actually designed "outside" of us as a test, I'm still not quite sure, but reading the nearly identical progression of issues people report as they learn AP is both instructive and humbling.

If you read back through the history of your posts (which I did), the basic progression is clearly there: Initially we have to learn to ground ourself in the NP reality, then we learn to balance several mental states and emotional issues; we learn the balance and a certain composure that is required: the balance of fear, confusion, indecision, frustration...all of which can abort the experience instantly. Having dealt with a couple mental issues as well as the first big emotional issue (fear), we get some time to start understanding the new perceptual issues such as vision, movement, navigation, environmental malleability, etc...

Once we begin to understand some of these issues, we start to want to look around and venture out...this is when the Sexual issue shows itself and usually stops us several times in a row...when something repeats like that, it is usually a sign that we have reached an obstacle that needs to be addressed. When you figure out the solution to the Sexual issue, it will be a seemingly simple yet subtle thing...and it won't be the last time this issue shows itself...I successfully dealt with this 8 years ago and yet got caught out by it this last summer...oops, lol.

This is a serious test of your emotional control. Your Instructors or your Higher Self, or some combination thereof, do not let you go flitting about in NPR public until you can demonstrate serious emotional control...or at least that's MY take on it...

The Fear test and the Sexual test are probably the two biggies but they are followed by others it appears...along with your dream journal you might as well start a checklist with the major emotions and mental states that you have or may encounter...because you will. When the Simulations start, they will introduce these issues to see how you deal with them and give you opportunities to resolve/improve them.

Great fun!

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