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« on: March 13, 2002, 04:06:02 »

I find it MUCH easier to achieve trance/OOBE without the use of a pillow.  That is just my preference, I get too distracted/uncomfortable and it is one less thing to worry about.  Your body is also in a 'flatter' more natural position, but experiment and see what works for you.


 
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2002, 04:24:34 »

I think it must be very subjective.  A pillow supports my neck and
head at a comfortable level.  I've got one of those buckwheat husk
pillows that forms to my head and neck.  I'm actually less
comfortable without it.

I guess we can surmise what Robert says in AD, "What works,... works."

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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2002, 05:40:54 »

Hi

I also prefer not using pillow, though, I have had only unconscious oobes (during afternoon naps, so I used pillow those times). When I am about to consciously reach the trance state, I don't use pillow, as I experienced, it makes hard to relax my neck.
You create your limits, if you learn projecting with use of a pillow, it could be impossible to project without a pillow

Take care, and have successful obes

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2002, 06:59:07 »

As Roger sais, subjective...   I use a thin pillow, without any support for my head I often can feel my heart beats in my head (what if I have two hearts, havenīt thought of that until now...) which are a bit annoying when trying to loose body awareness..  the thing is the best OBE attempt Iīve had, the first I tried actually (isnīt that weird), was when I - donīt know why - had, what do you call it, the thingie you have over you when you sleep?  Anyway, I had the "thingie" you have over you when you sleep all wrapped up in a big round soft "ball" (man I canīt find the words today) on which I had my upper parts of my body rested on, so I was lying/sitting..  so one has to try alot of different positions, what works for one person, may very well not work for another...

   PS. The thingie method doesnīt work better for me now though (I believe, havenīt tried it more than once since, gotta try "the thingie position" tonight once more!!) than lying plain on my back, so I can not recommend it as the "super OBE position", but hey, you are free to try, havenīt copyrighted it or anythingī.. yet...
     Be well// Qui-Gon    


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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2002, 03:13:07 »

Thanks guys for your feedback. I must admit I've been using two pillows, I can still achieve the vibrations on a good day using this but I find myself becoming aware of my body knocking me out of a trance. I think I'll try it with one pillow and no pillows.

 
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2002, 03:32:45 »

I was wondering when I lay down to attempt an OBE, would it be more effective if I used a pillow or is more effective not to use one when entering the trance state?

 
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