The Astral Pulse
News: http://www.astralpulse.com/aup.html. Acceptable Use Policy for the forums. Please read and ensure that you respect these policies. Thank you.

Please note that due to the amount of spam posts we have been receiving over the past few months, we have switched Registration to require you to be approved by a moderator.  We will go through the approval list as often as we can, but if it's been 24 hours and you haven't been Approved yet or you've received a rejection email, please email myself or one of the moderators immediately so we may correct the application.

We apologize for any inconveniences this may cause, but it's the last resort we have to fighting the spam for now.
 
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. December 15, 2018, 21:29:14


Login with username, password and session length


Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Projecting Fast  (Read 1340 times)
ThaomasOfGrey
Global Moderator
Astral Energy 3
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 413


View Profile
« on: March 06, 2018, 11:58:23 »

Can anyone do it? What is your "fastest" projection and how did you do it? What is the primary mechanic that limits our ability to project quickly?

My fastest projection was by the wake and back to bed method. It was close enough to instant that I was unaware of any time passing between laying down and experiencing the exit. My hypothesis is that the primary limiting mechanic is rate of brain wave change, and that is why "priming" works in general.
Logged
Lumaza
Astral Energy 5
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1163



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2018, 12:51:14 »

My hypothesis is that the primary limiting mechanic is rate of brain wave change, and that is why "priming" works in general.
Bingo!
Logged

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla
The Astral Pulse
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2018, 12:51:14 »

logoVisit the website of Astral Pulse creator Adrian Cooper.

Home of the best selling book Our Ultimate Reality.

Astral Projection, Metaphysics and many other subjects.

 Logged
astralm
Astral Energy 3
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 128


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 13:35:44 »

Also why straight awake to obe success has such a link to meditation.  More advanced you are at meditation more quickly you can change your brain waves, and more control you have over them.
Logged
baro-san
Astral Energy 3
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 261


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 02:51:38 »

Also why straight awake to obe success has such a link to meditation.  More advanced you are at meditation more quickly you can change your brain waves, and more control you have over them.

There are studies that show that what you accomplish with one hour of meditation, in the field of enlightenment, trance, you can accomplish in a few minutes with a quick drop in frontal and parietal lobes activity.

See: "How Enlightenment Changes Your Brain: The New Science of Transformation" by Andrew B. Newberg and Mark Robert Waldman.
Logged

---
“Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider.”
- Sir Francis Bacon
ThaomasOfGrey
Global Moderator
Astral Energy 3
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 413


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 03:30:10 »

There are studies that show that what you accomplish with one hour of meditation, in the field of enlightenment, trance, you can accomplish in a few minutes with a quick drop in frontal and parietal lobes activity.

See: "How Enlightenment Changes Your Brain: The New Science of Transformation" by Andrew B. Newberg and Mark Robert Waldman.

I've heard something that might be similar with David Asprey. He spent some hundreds of thousands of dollars replicating the mind set of expert Tibetan monks with a meditation training machine. Took only around 2 weeks apparently to achieve approximately the same results as it took the monk 40 years to get.

I'll probably read that book now, but is there any practical knowledge on dropping activity in those lobes?
Logged
The Astral Pulse
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 03:30:10 »



 Logged
astralm
Astral Energy 3
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 128


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 04:24:46 »

There will always be those that claim you can do what takes 40 years of dedication in just a couple weeks with a magic pill or formula.  I have wasted enough of my life chasing these, in my experience they don't exist ... how would one even put an objective stamp on something like enlightenment for a study anyways it isn't something you can simply measure and put in a chart.
Logged
baro-san
Astral Energy 3
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 261


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 09:56:21 »

As I wrote:
See: "How Enlightenment Changes Your Brain: The New Science of Transformation" by Andrew B. Newberg and Mark Robert Waldman.
It is available in epub format too.

The authors present their research, conclusions, and ways to do it. Don't discount it before you read it. Here there is Bob Peterson's review of the book.

Progress means to do something better than you or others did it.
Logged

---
“Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider.”
- Sir Francis Bacon
ThaomasOfGrey
Global Moderator
Astral Energy 3
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 413


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 11:48:16 »

There will always be those that claim you can do what takes 40 years of dedication in just a couple weeks with a magic pill or formula.  I have wasted enough of my life chasing these, in my experience they don't exist ... how would one even put an objective stamp on something like enlightenment for a study anyways it isn't something you can simply measure and put in a chart.

The experiment was conducted by having the monk meditate under the surveillance of some kind of EEG brain wave scanner. We can only speculate on his subjective experience, but objectively a specific brain wave frequency and pattern is achieved. We are led to believe that achieving that precise state isn't something that just happens, it is where you are at after 40 years experience.

Our guy then meditates using an audio feedback device. The device outputs a tuning pitch as you apply your intent, giving a compass direction to the correct mindset. After several weeks the subject was able to replicate the monk's measurements. Once again we can only speculate at their subjective experience, but there has to be some value in the mind set of 40 years of experience.
Logged
Kree
Astral Energy 1
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 27


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2018, 08:14:37 »

primary limiting mechanic is rate of brain wave change

Does this mean binaural beats would be the solution?
Logged
ThaomasOfGrey
Global Moderator
Astral Energy 3
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 413


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2018, 09:01:40 »

Does this mean binaural beats would be the solution?

Maybe, you can use them to try and induce a specific brain wave frequency. I gave up on binaural beats fairly early on because I found that they grounded me here. The issue might have been that the beats targeted the wrong frequencies.

It might be that there is no one frequency that beats can really be tuned to for projection. I have read that true third eye awakening is not related to any particular brain wave state, it is actually about synchronization across a spectrum of brain wave frequencies operating simultaneously.

I think the fastest documented way to change brain state significantly is to engage in extreme sports. That kind of focus is immediate and immersive because it requires focus to not be badly injured. Going into our own minds and staying intensely focused by contrast, is not necessarily captivating or critical to our safety so it is much harder.
Logged
The Astral Pulse
   



 Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
SMFAds for Free Forums


The Astral Pulse Copyright © 2002 - 2014
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM