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« on: December 09, 2011, 03:14:33 »

I've been trying to astral project for some time now, but have been unable to because every time I'm about to, I get scared and lose it. I've never really been able to do it by meditating or any conscious method. It usually happens when I'm going to sleep and sometimes I end up beginning to leave my body. It's become pretty common and i go through the same process every time, realize what's going on, get scared, go back. I started looking into some other things, and I don't know if anybody else believes in Guardian Angels, but I do. So I asked my guardian angel for protection, whether it be real or just a self-delusion. What happened one night was scarier than any other experience.

I "woke up" drifting out of my body, and began to get scared. I toughed it out this time and decided to keep going. It was taking some time to get out of my body, but I could tell it was happening. Then I noticed I was hearing something that scared the **** out of me. It sounded like a bunch of people talking or rather whispering. I immediately thought enough of this, and went straight back into my body, waited a few seconds to be able to move my body again, and then got up waited a few seconds, and went back to sleep.(for the whole night this time.) After a few hours of being awake the next morning I began to wonder if I was actually hearing talking and what was being said. There was also some other sounds that just sounded plain weird.

Either way, is there any way to drown out these sounds? I feel like I'm so close but those sounds creeped me out. I'm gonna try again tonight, sometimes I can get it to happen by telling myself it's gonna happen before I go to sleep, or by sleeping in a certain position.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 03:17:45 »

Try asking your guardian angel.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 03:26:42 »

Try asking your guardian angel.

Good idea! I didn't think of that.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 03:31:18 »

Dude.
    You need to consider yourself extremely lucky to be able to project so naturally! The only thing holding you back is fear. You should do whatever you can to conquer your fears. With that out of the way, you have so much ahead of you to look forward to!
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 04:44:21 »

The only thing that can hurt you in the astral is fear.

The bad entities cannot harm you in ANY way. They just try and "scare" you
back into your body.

Remember; the only thing that can actually stop you, is yourself.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 04:58:37 »

The only thing that can hurt you in the astral is fear.

The bad entities cannot harm you in ANY way. They just try and "scare" you
back into your body.

It is possible to become possessed, or channel beings that temporarily inhabit your body.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 18:08:20 »

 There's a good thing to tell people that are just beginning. I have had hundreds of successful Phase sessions and have never experienced any negative beings. You create your own fear in the Astral. If you go in with "dark thoughts" as a lot of you do here, you will find "dark entities". Plain and simple thought = action. I read here quite a bit about the people that want to go the Astral to battle Dragons, etc. I also read about people here that want to go to the Astral because it seems like a fun thing to do. There really should be a warning on this site stating that "once you open the doors to Conscious Phasing it will definitely alter your perception on everything in your life". You can not just turn it off, it's kind of like "Pandora's Box". Once it's open the truth is out. If you have been drawn to this Path, then follow it. There is a reason for that.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 19:00:47 »

There's a good thing to tell people that are just beginning. I have had hundreds of successful Phase sessions and have never experienced any negative beings. You create your own fear in the Astral. If you go in with "dark thoughts" as a lot of you do here, you will find "dark entities". Plain and simple thought = action. I read here quite a bit about the people that want to go the Astral to battle Dragons, etc. I also read about people here that want to go to the Astral because it seems like a fun thing to do. There really should be a warning on this site stating that "once you open the doors to Conscious Phasing it will definitely alter your perception on everything in your life". You can not just turn it off, it's kind of like "Pandora's Box". Once it's open the truth is out. If you have been drawn to this Path, then follow it. There is a reason for that.

I'm here to help. I have hundreds of successful sessions too and have experienced "negative beings" that attach themselves onto your body and suck your energy out until you feel dead. Some even control your mind and make you think in a way you wouldn't normally think. So, it's foolish to think this can't happen to you becuase when it does, the last thing you want to hear is thought = action or love and light! Because these beings don't care about your thoughts or your love. Only your mind and the energy you can produce for them, which can't be found in many places in this Universe.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 00:23:54 »

It is possible to become possessed, or channel beings that temporarily inhabit your body.

No, it is not. Your negative beings are reflections of your fear. Transcend it and please stop spreading these ideas.

And I realize that it is rude to talk like this, but honestly, you're just wrong. Stop spreading fear.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 01:32:43 »

No, it is not. Your negative beings are reflections of your fear. Transcend it and please stop spreading these ideas.

And I realize that it is rude to talk like this, but honestly, you're just wrong. Stop spreading fear.

The only thing I'm spreading is truth. My theories are based on my experieces and the thousands of hours I've spent researching the topic. What exactly are your facts based on?
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 02:57:20 »

Then I noticed I was hearing something that scared the **** out of me. It sounded like a bunch of people talking or rather whispering. I immediately thought enough of this, and went straight back into my body, waited a few seconds to be able to move my body again, and then got up waited a few seconds, and went back to sleep.(for the whole night this time.) After a few hours of being awake the next morning I began to wonder if I was actually hearing talking and what was being said. There was also some other sounds that just sounded plain weird.

Either way, is there any way to drown out these sounds? I feel like I'm so close but those sounds creeped me out. I'm gonna try again tonight, sometimes I can get it to happen by telling myself it's gonna happen before I go to sleep, or by sleeping in a certain position.
This is pretty much my experience also.  I get to the point of hearing those voices,...and get stuck back into paralysis.  The almost deafening noise sounds to me like I left the radio or TV on really loud,...with added sounds of something (like glass jars or chains) being scrapped back and forth over a tile floor.   When I finally wake-up fully,...it's usually totally silent. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011, 06:39:21 »

Hi,
Scarey noises are quite natural when entering the phase state. Look at them as un-natural not fearful. They're really wierd at times and can be like you are being thrown around at the same time. Its separation, its what you want to feel.
you're entering a new world so expect the unexpected. Vibrations are like being electrocuted and feel identical so......
Let it happen and pass through. The other side is totally wonderful, different and an experience like nothing you've known before.
 Its worth it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 08:14:12 »

It is possible to become possessed, or channel beings that temporarily inhabit your body.

Not in most cases. You have an astral experience when you dream. Whether or not you can
retain the dream or not, you still had a dream. That being said, a lot of people
would be getting possessed because they are dreaming.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 08:44:24 »

It is possible to become possessed, or channel beings that temporarily inhabit your body.

No it isn't.

Because of the work im involved in, I know that Spirit people cannot inhabit your body and possession is a myth.
I know how long it can take to develop trance Mediumship...and that blend takes time and patients and the spirit people who work at this are spiritually evolved and have an understanding of the energies. There is never one spirit control involved in trance more like ten or so working together to create the right blend of mind and energy and maintain that temporary link.
 Also Trance is "Mental Mediumship" i.e "Mind to Mind" not physical as many people believe...the spirit person does NOT inhabit your body..im sorry but just isnt possible.


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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 08:51:47 »

After a few hours of being awake the next morning I began to wonder if I was actually hearing talking and what was being said. There was also some other sounds that just sounded plain weird.

Either way, is there any way to drown out these sounds? I feel like I'm so close but those sounds creeped me out. I'm gonna try again tonight, sometimes I can get it to happen by telling myself it's gonna happen before I go to sleep, or by sleeping in a certain position.

Hi Leon, sounds like a great experience. Consider that when we have experiences like this that we are raising our conciseness and our awareness. So with the sounds you were hearing, they are always there but when your mind is less open you just don't hear them. As we meditate, Lucid dream phase etc we expand that awareness. All we have to do close that perception off is just focus on material things for a while, go for a walk, get some exercise, take some exercise, have a big meal, watch a funny film etc etc.

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 16:58:48 »

 I think of the voices as a barrier we cross when we Phase/OBE. The sounds and voices could be the Collective Mind or Thoughts of many people around you. If the theory of we are all one is true then that would make perfect sense.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 19:37:24 »

Not in most cases. You have an astral experience when you dream. Whether or not you can
retain the dream or not, you still had a dream. That being said, a lot of people
would be getting possessed because they are dreaming.

And who's to say that the people that become possessed don't become that way through dreams?


No it isn't.

Because of the work im involved in, I know that Spirit people cannot inhabit your body and possession is a myth.
I know how long it can take to develop trance Mediumship...and that blend takes time and patients and the spirit people who work at this are spiritually evolved and have an understanding of the energies. There is never one spirit control involved in trance more like ten or so working together to create the right blend of mind and energy and maintain that temporary link.
 Also Trance is "Mental Mediumship" i.e "Mind to Mind" not physical as many people believe...the spirit person does NOT inhabit your body..im sorry but just isnt possible.


Regards.

Anythings possible.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 07:25:07 »




Anythings possible.

Haha fair comment  cool
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 15:45:25 »

I think of the voices as a barrier we cross when we Phase/OBE. The sounds and voices could be the Collective Mind or Thoughts of many people around you. If the theory of we are all one is true then that would make perfect sense.

Absolutely cool   !
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 22:47:44 »

Absolutely cool   !

I hear voices all the time when I am about to project. Or just in a really deep trance state. I have had my name shouted a few times too. A few morning ago I got a really loud "god D*****!" I don't know what the heck that was all about lol.

The best one I have heard is when I kept pressing snooze to not get up. I pressed it about 5 times. Each with a ten minute time span before the alarm went off again. After the 5th time I started projecting and I heard a "Okay you can get up now!!!" In a really mad older female voice. I said.. "Okay I am up!!! huh" haha. xD
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2011, 07:45:44 »

I noticed I was hearing something that scared the **** out of me. It sounded like a bunch of people talking or rather whispering.I began to wonder if I was actually hearing talking and what was being said. There was also some other sounds that just sounded plain weird.

Either way, is there any way to drown out these sounds? I feel like I'm so close but those sounds creeped me out. I'm gonna try again tonight, sometimes I can get it to happen by telling myself it's gonna happen before I go to sleep, or by sleeping in a certain position.

Hi Leon, I have heard sounds, people talking, music etc usually before or just after being out-of-body. reading up on this I find it is called "hypnagogic  sound" and is a well known phenomena.
Once I  thought I could hear a party going on next door 'in full swing' music loud voices laughter and woke up and there was silence and knowing the people next door I knew there wasn't a party going on. I have done astral travelling, out of body dozens of times and never felt fear, only joy in doing it. Be strong and enjoy.  smiley cheers djed
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