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« on: September 15, 2020, 02:23:03 »

Hello, it has been a while. For some reason i am having such long breaks in between the experiences.

last night i had another vibrational experience and a short exit though. but something keeps on re-ocurring and has me wondering if any of you has experienced something similar: i so often hear my son calling me or see him scared. it is like sabotage, because each time i think it is real and i think that i need to get back into my body quickly. same last night. it was frustrating, because it was so long until i was finally able to exit again...

my son is scared of the dark and he is also very sensitive to OBEs, but in general it scares him too much.  We talk a lot about grounding ... i try to be easy on him, as there is no need to push or rush him.

so interesting though that it seems as if his spirit is sabotaging me.... or maybe my own psyche uses his fear to sabotage myself....  maybe it does not have anything to do with him at all?

Have you experienced something like this? Any input?

Thank you so much <3
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2020, 10:53:36 »

On deciphering experiences,  feelings tell all you really need to know. No need to 'figure out' if its his spirit, your mind, etc.  but can be fun i guess.

On my first experiences, it was always a fear test, as I let fear stop my experience at first. More and more I passed them. The main way how is simply not reacting. Eventually the fear feeling goes away. I guess your problem would be to know when to do it, as you want to only not react if it's an obe.
One way to know, my go to, is a reality check. I hold my nose and mouth shut and try to breath. If i breath, i know im not in reality. You have to do this  during your waking moments and eventually that habit will happen in your obe.

Then there is method two, reacting differently to his scaredness rather than how you have been. Many ways to be able to get to that point as well. Can expand if you actually want to do that. It's hard for a mother to not come to the calling of thier child, so you dont have to cold turkey it. Perhaps breath, count to ten, and all the while trusting in the process.  This helps you 1. raising your vibration to panicing/worrying to a more stability/ground state (even if it doesnt reach it) 2. trust / letting go of control. 
It can also help the son not be as reliant and tapping into his own source of power.   I mean, if you have to physically do something for him thats a different story. But if its like a nightmare or him dealing with emotions, he can learn too. Those 10 seconds extra he has to wait can be his baby steps as well.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 09:43:02 »

Hi Batgirl

Although I do not have the experience myself, Robert Monroe describes this well in his original interviews.. When he began going out of body he ( in his own case ) would get interrupted by the sexual urge. He grew to learn that he had to address this, by telling himself "he would get to that in just awhile" but for right now he would just explore this other first. That worked for him. He set down the physical need/stimulus to first explore the OBE. His body and psyche went along with this until ultimately it was not a problem anymore.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2020, 22:01:57 »

Hello, it has been a while. For some reason i am having such long breaks in between the experiences.

last night i had another vibrational experience and a short exit though. but something keeps on re-ocurring and has me wondering if any of you has experienced something similar: i so often hear my son calling me or see him scared. it is like sabotage, because each time i think it is real and i think that i need to get back into my body quickly. same last night. it was frustrating, because it was so long until i was finally able to exit again...

my son is scared of the dark and he is also very sensitive to OBEs, but in general it scares him too much.  We talk a lot about grounding ... i try to be easy on him, as there is no need to push or rush him.

so interesting though that it seems as if his spirit is sabotaging me.... or maybe my own psyche uses his fear to sabotage myself....  maybe it does not have anything to do with him at all?

Have you experienced something like this? Any input?

Thank you so much <3
It sounds like something within YOU is stopping you.
Next time try pushing through it... trust that your son is okay.

Tom Campbell always said that in order to project you have to be willing to die.  You need acceptance.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 01:45:12 »

Oh man, I get this too sometimes. I'll be on the verge of exiting or in that in-between zone when I hear my Mom calling me. The other phantom sound I hear sometimes is someone banging on my front door. I personally think it's me harboring some deep subconscious fears. They just seem to float to the surface when I am trying to OOBE - especially the banging on the door which makes me wake up immediately in terror and my first thought is "Oh my God, who's here?? Am I in trouble?" That's why I think it's fear based. Hope that helps.  smiley
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2020, 08:50:19 »

Wow, thank you all so much! It really helps a lot to hear that others have similar experiences and to share information on how to deal with it. It seems pretty clear by now that this is a fear inside of me. as if it is one of these tests.... and my son is a really tough one, even though he is no baby anymore (he is 12), but putting him on hold when he is crying or in fear and hoping that it is not real does not seem to be an option.

My plan is to make a reality check next time this happens, if it doesn't happen when i am on the verge of exiting. usually i am having strong vibrations and i am still learning to cultivate them, so when i am about to exit AND trying to increase the vibration, I wonder if i could make a reality check at the same time..

I had a couple of conversations with y son where he told me into my face that he wishes for me to fly like superwoman through to the stars, that he has nothing against it. we shook hands on it. we were goofing around, but i might remember next time ...

I also listened to my past recordings of when such a situation occurred and i noticed that last time maybe came with a solution in itself, because while my son tried to catch my attention another me (that looked like mary poppins) was comforting him. in dream yoga they say you can do several things at the same time, also tom campbell says he can be at several places at the same time. so maybe i can comfort him AND be in peace with my practice..

i suppose the only challenge would be to learn how to stay calm if someone screams or even bangs the door like it happens for shineling...
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2020, 02:53:07 »

Yeah, I think we're unto something here... for me I think it stems from some kind of irrational guilt that I am leaving my family behind and venturing into unknown territory. It's like a part of us that we can't really share with anyone else because it's about ourselves, so it's private. This makes me feel a little guilty and "different" than my other family members who have no knowledge of OOBEing. Whenever I hear my Mom calling me in that weird zone she sounds like she's concerned for me... like she's afraid for me. So I think it's my fear and guilt manifesting. Anyway, that's my two cents. Good luck Batgirl.  smiley

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2020, 10:01:38 »

i guess if i were you i would ask my mom to do sort of a deal (like 'next time you call and i don't answer, don't worry and just give me 10min') that would be symbolic and also shake hands on it, no matter if she understands or not... lol. and i guess i would also have someone knock hysterically on my door once in a while to train my response and hopefully have a lot of fun with it at the same time.

but you are right, there is guilt. as if i should not leave him behind, going on potentially scary adventures and risking my sanity and family harmony or something.

i am pretty sure next time it happens we will be more aware. thank you and good luck too, shineling.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2020, 08:44:55 »

I agree with much that has been offered...a few more ideas:

I think that this is an awareness issue primarily, and not to be especially concerned with. I have experienced it in various forms over fifty years and only found it to be of a troublesome nature. In my opinion, it is a lesser form of a Fear Test...so call it a Distraction Test. It serves a simple purpose only to distract you from your OBE process of the moment. And it can be quite powerful and shocking: I have had my mother calling me, my father and brother breaking into my house, the police...serious stuff like that which awakened me and turned out to be nothing. Then there are cannon booms and gunshots that lifted me a few inches out of bed. Then there are the lesser forms, the pesky and bothersome ones like strange voices murmuring, pops, clicks and whizzes...I watch the nightly news so it wasn't surprising when I heard a familiar newsman rambling on several times...

Keep in mind where and when these 'distortions' are occurring...you are still 'in body' but within Non-Physical awareness...and the proximity of your Physical body can and often does cause these types of 'feedback' noises. As soon as you can move ten feet or more away, all this 'noise' will cease. So it serves as a kind of natural feedback issue and also as a natural kind of distraction to pull you back to the 'Physical'. Once you recognize that, accept it and decide to ignore it, you can move on. It's a natural part of learning and accepting the OBE process. And a pain in the butt when it catches you off guard, LOL.

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2020, 09:52:05 »

Thank you EV, I appreciate your insight.
Wow, what a relief to find out others experience that too...
I believe that talking and contemplating about this will help me to gain awareness in my next OBE. it really takes a lot to stay aware and concentrated enough, it took me so much time, practice and effort to get to where i am and progress comes slowly (at least for someone who is  impatient like me smiley
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2020, 10:25:18 »

It does take a lot to stay aware and concentrated enough. This is the discipline required to take it to the next level. The fact that you are already here and asking the right questions shows that you have the willingness and ability. Be confident and forge ahead. In the NP, always know that you are safe!

You are doing great!

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