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Author Topic: Sensative consciousness - inducing AP just by reading about  (Read 3162 times)
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« on: February 02, 2005, 06:42:04 »

Hey.  Problem here.  I haven't been trying to AP for a while because I've been put off it by someone.  Some idiot fear about possesion, reprimand me later.  My problem is, I've got a friend I told about AP and a paralysis episode I had but I'm over that.  She decided that she wanted to try and I told her I'd call her and give her some info.  What happened was I read her the steps over the phone.  I went to bed that night and in some period before I woke, I had about three odd things happen.  One, I had a lucid dream (no big deal), I keep trying to fly in these, weird.  The problem there was, I never tried to induce it.  Two, I felt odd vibrations in a half waking state similar to a repeated conscious paralysis I'd been experiencing (something to do with my changing my conscious state, no biggie), and three, I wasn't sure if it was a dream or what the hell it was but I thought I was having an OBE but at the same time could feel all the sensations associated with one.  I was standing on my bedroom floor and there was this kind of glow but it was darker then it should have been (it was early morning and the sun was rising).  I was thinking, hey, what the?... and decided to go and have a look in the mirror on the back of my door and see what I looked like.  I turned around to see if I could see me back in my bed and thought I couldn't which triggered some warning in my brain because I knew I should be able to see me.  The covers on my bed were back, I think, either that or I was tucked under them, either way Ii suddenly thought, what the hell am I doing? and  I tried to move my fingers and thought of my body, failing that, I tried to force my eyes open only wake up then open my eyes and wake up again.  Totally screwed up.  I also remember that I couldn't really move or see properly, like everything was slightly off center and I was trying to see straight but I couldn't.

Sorry, long post.  I think I dreamed and OBE but the problem is, how can this happen if I only read about AP during that day?  And if it was a spontaneous  OBE, my aversion to them shouldn't let it happen should it?  Not total aversion, probably just a stupid fear.  Anyway, please answer my question if anyone can and I'd be so greatful!

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 03:06:10 »

can someone answer my question please?
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 03:06:10 »

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2005, 03:12:58 »

A false awakening maybe?

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2005, 03:45:33 »

I have had obe/dream experiences after hearing/reading about them so I think that just focusing on them for a minute during the day can set us up for them. Remember- an adversion is a focusing on the thing also, even though we think not.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2005, 03:49:49 »

what's the best way to get around an adversion?  eg. fear of being possesed?

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2005, 03:54:50 »

Repeated experience with the knowledge that you cannot get possessed. Such states can be scary, but you have to remember no harm can come to you. After seeing this yourself (with experience) the fear starts to fade.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2005, 03:59:58 »

so it's in no way possible to get possessed while being away from your body?  None whatsoever?  Because that and lack of sleep are the only things stopping me from attempting to AP when I knew I could have been successful.

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2005, 04:04:08 »

Regardless of what a few people might think (perhaps still trapped in 50-60's AP belief systems) it is absolutely impossble to get possessed while OBE.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2005, 04:06:22 »

thank you so much! Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2005, 04:14:30 »

Thats ok Smiley AP can be scary, but I think the fear is more a fear of the unknown. Taking steps into places which are not charted by current science, or allowed for by the belief of most current humans is a big thing. Just keep in mind that nothing can truely harm you, and even scary situations can be delt with when/if they arise.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2005, 04:28:20 »

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even scary situations can be delt with when/if they arise.

Not to scare you, but scary things can happen but you need to keep awareness in mind that you can either try to deal with the situation when it arises, or you can just put your awareness back into your body and wake up.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2005, 08:44:47 »

Thanks heaps for the help.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2005, 18:39:12 »

I also had a similar experience.  After reading an article by TL in the experiences section on this site, I had two lucid dreams for the first time that same night.  Some time passed since and I had not had another lucid dream until last night.  Yesterday, it happened that I was reading topics on this site also.

On the possessions issue, do you believe in possessions?  If so, you are already possessed.  It is the belief that possesses you or the acceptance of the belief suggested by someone else.

Soon you will realize that what you think and believe is really you: what you've accepted to be true.  Probably what is happening now to you is that many of your basic beliefs are being questioned and some of those are been destroyed due to inconsistency with these new experiences.  So you feel the need to put something else in their place because you may be afraid.

Just keep in mind that just because you found one thing to be false or be questioned, it does not mean that everything else is false or that other things around it are valid also.

I suggest you donít give it much thought and just relax.  In fact, ignore the fear when it comes.  It will eventually go away and you will not even think about the issue until someone else brings it up.  Thoughts are just like animals, if you feed them, they will come back for more; and if you donít feed them, they will either go away or feed on you.  So donít feed this possession beast.  Simply run away from it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2005, 00:35:09 »

Quote from: FreeChile
do you believe in possessions?  If so, you are already possessed.  


Couldn't have said it better myself.


Andali, keep in mind everyone projects in their sleep, every night.  It doesn't matter if it is someone who thinks this is just newage hocus pocus or a veteran astral travler. If such could be true of possessions, I think there would be alot of people walking around already possessed.

The difference between an astral projection/obe from one you have everynight while you dream, is having full conscience/awarness.  It is the practice of shifting your "awake and aware" conscience into your energy body, while your physical is still in bed sleeping.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2005, 02:47:15 »

That's making me feel more at ease with the whole thing.  Last night I actually had a go, I hadn't for ages and was suprised.  I managed to keep my mind awake while my body went to sleep to the point where I couldn't feel it at all.  I couldn't really get past there though and only had about a minuet where I started to breathe faster and my heart/hear chakra beat faster but that faded.  I tried again that morning had feel into a half sleep where I dreamt of AP.  I'm not sure if it happened or not but there was no fear.  I think I'll end up having problems with energy probably, any hints?  And thanks soooo much for the help with overcoming my fear.  I'll get there, I know it and it'll be thanks to you guys that I post my first experience.

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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2005, 04:21:07 »

Just work on raiseing your energy during the day
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2005, 05:02:16 »

How can I do that?
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