voyager13
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« on: July 11, 2012, 12:46:20 » |
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He claims to be able to astral project easily, but I'm watching his videos on Youtube and it seems he doesn't have a clue what the actual experience is like. I think he is just good at collecting information and packaging them nicely. That's how he's become a millionaire. It's funny: he has a video in which he talks about finding one's soulmate using astral projection ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3J0D6wCMf8&feature=plcp) and then he was on Millionaire Matchmaker ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3XeRKMl7q0). In another video, he claims that a girl who never had AP before, experiences it through hypnosis, live on camera. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGmLzDdzio&feature=plcp). I think the girl was not even hypnotized, she was licking her lips just before opening her eyes. And when you have your first AP, is that the reaction you're going to have? This is ridiculous. I should say, when I was a teenager, I was very much into hypnosis and one time I hypnotized my sister and induced an OBE. When the session was over, she was very excited and described feeling vibrations and going out of her body. So I'm not saying it is not possible to do it this way, but I feel something is fishy about this guy.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 14:59:23 » |
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Well the astral projection hypnosis session was very interesting. Whole thing could have been staged, or it could have been legit. I don't know. During the time when she was unresponsive, she was actually breathing quite deeply. As soon as she woke and opened her eyes her breathing returned to normal. I don't know if it was real or not.
I too was very into hypnosis as a teenager and used to hypnotise my mother. She would go very deep very quickly. I used to tell her to travel in her mind and describe scenes at a distance. On the one occasion when I could verify the details she was spot on.
On that occasion I had placed a small cuddly toy on the bookshelves in my bedroom and asked her to describe it. The toy was in fact a small white Scottish terrier wearing a tartan beret. My mother described it as a small white kitten with a plate on its head.
My mother was able to speak whilst mind travelling. Steve Jones' subject was not able to speak whilst astrally projecting. That may be the difference between remote viewing and astral projection.
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Lionheart
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 21:44:41 » |
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No he is definitely not a Con artist. I own his entire program and it works. He uses energy work, kundalini awakening, breathing exercises, Hypnosis based walkthroughs and he has some of the best Binaural Beat MP3's I have ever heard. The only reason you don't hear more about him is his price. I paid that $200 price tag and got the results I expected. I find that when you pay for a program that you are committing yourself. Commitment is paramount to success with this practice. My only criticism of his program is it takes the etheric OBE approach. I found that puts too much focus on the physical body for my liking, as I prefer to just shift my awareness instead of climb out of the body. Dr. Steve G. Jones program is excellent and I would recommend it to anyone wishing to learn how to Astral Travel.
I just wanted to add one more thing. Dr. Steve G. Jones is a clinical Hypnotist and he has over 50 different programs to help people stop anything from smoking to compulsive eating disorders and a number of other problems.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 22:16:00 » |
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Hmmmm....
Lionheart are you sure? $25,000 for a two hour consultation with Steve Jones? I watched some of his youtube videos and he seems to be suggesting that if you buy his astral projection CD, you can "have some very very interesting journeys tonight". He comes across a bit snake oil to me?
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Lionheart
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 22:26:14 » |
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It looks like someone is pushing the program pretty hard. I would say you would see progress after a week, being well on your way to success way after a month. Unless of course he Hypnotises you right then and there in his studio. That way you would see instant success because he is Hypnotising you, lol.
After watching these videos you posted I would say that he is trying to get his name out, like most good business would. Most of the people that go on these "reality" date shows, in my opinion, do it for publicity and also to aid their ego. I didn't watch your video links Volgerie before. I would say he got his idea for his "Astral Soul Search" video by being on that dating show. Look at the dates that both of those videos were released. When I replied earlier here, I was posting in general about Dr. Steve G. Jone's Astral Projection programs known as Explorations-Beyond the Body and Exploration-Intensive. I have posted about these before here, just do a search on Dr. Steve G. Jones in the search engine at the top right hand side of the page here.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 02:31:55 » |
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I'm not sure if its always that easy, For some perhaps. I've found all to often its easy to get side tracked. Very interesting though.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 02:50:21 » |
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I've never looked into him only because the first time I saw his stuff it seemed like a scam or something. After seeing lionheart post about it may have changed my mind to give him a shot if anything, but i'm not the one to be spending a lot of money on his programs when I can already AP, just not as often as I'de like to of course
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 02:57:31 » |
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I use the program to help other people I meet that show interest in Astral travel. I lend it out to them and then let them learn at their own pace. I do the same with my Laxman, for people that want to experience the Trance state quickly without learning how to meditate etc. Most of the people that have tried my Laxman, have been put asleep in under 5 minutes. If you don't keep your focus on noticing you will almost instantly fall asleep, it's that relaxing. 
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WolfBlood86
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 04:24:56 » |
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I wouldn't say that is necessarily a scam BUT if you truly care about helping people then in no world should you ever charge $25,000 for a two hour consulting meeting with this guy, $200 for a program, or $1 for 1 download of him just reading a script with nice music in the background. His net worth is more than $4 million. He truly is helping people... all the way to the bank! He is just taking advantage of weak minds. Here is a really funny video from some Brits on Steve G. Jones. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04j6yMCJ7qE
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voyager13
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 05:46:41 » |
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WolfBlood86: They're not "some Brits", they are Australian!  Lionheart: I have his program too. I didn't pay for it, I downloaded it for free. Since he seems just a salesman to me, I didn't feel bad doing it. There are some misleading information in that program as well; for example, he talks about Kundalini and says releasing it is very easy and there is no danger involved apart from keeping you up at night,... . I've heard different stories about Kundalini from many people who practice Yoga. I think he got all the ideas about energy work in his AP program from Robert Bruce. Just because one can get some results out of his program doesn't mean he is not a snake oil salesman. The information in the program is not his anyway. At the end of the day, what actually brings about the results is your commitment, as you said.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 05:47:32 » |
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Boy figure that, someone making fun of a person with a different view other than their own. Hmm, kind of seems like what happens when WE bring up Astral Travel in a group of people.  Closed minds stay closed, until they are forced to open. How much is a visit to the The Monroe Institute going for now or one of Robert Bruce's personal workshops? $25,000 for a two hour consultation. Did you see the names of the people that were signing up for this. they are the rich and famous who pay $25,000 for a babysitter, lol. Look at the names and occupations of the people giving reviews. http://www.stevegjones.com/phone.htm
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 15:53:58 » |
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Yeh I saw that too, thought it was funny too.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 16:44:58 » |
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$25,000 for a two hour consultation. Did you see the names of the people that were signing up for this. they are the rich and famous who pay $25,000 for a babysitter, lol. Look at the names and occupations of the people giving reviews. http://www.stevegjones.com/phone.htmTeaching 1%'s to AP is where the money's at! From the site: How much does the phone weight loss program cost? $100,000 for the first six phone weight loss sessions, but you get one hypnotherapy session free if you pay in advance. So it is $85,000 ($25,000 for the first session and $15,000 for four follow-up sessions). Holy Jeebus Christ!!! For phone sessions? You could get a personal trainer for a LOT less. If you want to be rich look for the suckers. Don't waste your time with people who have common sense.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 17:19:40 » |
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Teaching 1%'s to AP is where the money's at!
From the site: Holy Jeebus Christ!!! For phone sessions? You could get a personal trainer for a LOT less. If you want to be rich look for the suckers. Don't waste your time with people who have common sense.
I'm speechless. Why do we bother working for a living when there are rich suckers around who will pay these prices? This Steve Jones guy really has it all figured out. I'm moving to California and I'm going to do "pet whispering" sessions to the stars at $2000 a throw. It would fly.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 01:56:53 » |
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I use the program to help other people I meet that show interest in Astral travel. I lend it out to them and then let them learn at their own pace. I do the same with my Laxman, for people that want to experience the Trance state quickly without learning how to meditate etc. Most of the people that have tried my Laxman, have been put asleep in under 5 minutes. If you don't keep your focus on noticing you will almost instantly fall asleep, it's that relaxing.  Laxman?
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