The Vehram System is truly brilliant!

[VessenHopkins]

First, I just want to say thank you to everyone for giving this very important metaphysical breakthrough an open public forum for discussion, and also a special thanks to OBEvideoguy for the invite here to share in the exchange of ideas.

The Vehram System serves as the fundamental release power to enable consciousness to break the ties that bind us within the human body.  Externally configured at key points outside the body, the Vehram Array comprises six ethereal power centers.  Each center is composed of a central orb approximately the size of a basketball, engulfed in a radiant field of energy extending up to several feet in all directions from its surface.

The field of ethereal radiation surrounding the individual power centers may occassionally expand to engulf the human body and in such cases results in the automatic onset of the vibrational surge.  These natural cycles are known in the literature, however their underlying cause is only now becoming apparent in light of research into this external array.

The vibrational surge represents the formation of a viable ethereal vehicle consciousness may utilize to achieve separation.  It is possible to achieve separation without this energy present as many people do so from dream-states and through alternative projection methods such as in astral ejection.  However, there are still governing factors at the heart of any successful separation, and what the Vehram array does is enable us to understand at least some of the fundamental principles that allow consciousness to separate from the physical body, enough so that we can state that there is a fundamental approach that will, if conducted correctly, result in success each and every time.

There is a clear cause and effect relationship between being in the hypnagogic-state and what this energy does when it comes in contact with the ethereal body.  The basic effect is to provide a charge that neutralizes the ethereal bonds that hold the ethereal body within the physical.  The practitioner feels no resistance to separation wherever this energy is present within the ethereal body.  On the other hand, voluntary separation becomes difficult, nearly impossible without this energy present.

Also of particular interest, scientifically, is the unique behavior and properties of the energy centers themselves.  The field of radiation surrounding each orb, along with the jolt that occurs when contact is made between the central core and the ethereal body, are two independently identifiable properties that are of a non-subjective nature.  These properties will exhibit themselves regardless of what the practitioner believes, knows, or thinks.  Also, of course, is the exact layout and configuration of these energy centers, all of which are outside the physical body, proving that we must have the ability to reach beyond the physical body in order to physically interact with this system.

Because there are scientific principles that govern the behavior of all known forms of energy, we must ask whether the behavior of the Vehram Array may constitute a new set of scientific principles.  It would in fact appear to abide by at least some known laws of physics in terms of how energy emanates from a specific source - stronger closer to the source, weaker the further away.  The jolt is very similar to an electric shock in that the individual is subjected to an extremely powerful vibrational current of energy that enters from the source, travels through the conduit of the ethereal body and disperses throughout to regain equilibrium.

This phenomenon is testable under scientific laboratory conditions and should serve as a starting point for those in the field to begin understanding the scientific principles that govern consciousness' ability to exist separately from physical.  Through this work we will begin to more fully understand how we are integrated in the body, but at the very least, we can now see that we are indeed separate.

All the information anyone may need to explore the Vehram Array is posted on the site, so please take the time to explore this incredible breakthrough and share your experiences with others.  Thank you to everyone for taking the time to be a part of this!

Regards,
Vessen Hopkins
Author, "Out-of-Body Experiences: the Vehram Energy System"

[dbmathis]

Hi Vessen,

Welcome to the forum and I must admit that I totally concur with ignoring teachers in high school. I was kicked out of physics and computer programming class on more than one occasion when I questioned the teachings and challenged the teacher's reality with nothing more than pure logic.

Your observations seem to fill in many gaps which include where the "vibrations" come from and then how to induce them at will.

Although my belief is that the astral travel does indeed exist and that we are more than just a physical body, some people need scientific validation to accept such a thing and then incorporate it into their belief system. This in no way means that I think the scientific research is not important. I think that a scientific approach will lead to a better understanding of how astral projection works and what else may be possible that we are surely missing. This understanding will give us greater control and will speed up the evolution of humans.

I will begin testing your observations each time I am out of body and then I will write down my findings. I think that together we can bring this to the next level.

Thanks again for this information.

Best regards

David

[OBEvideoguy]

Hi Vessen,

I want to thank you so much for the detailed email you sent; helping me with getting into the hypnogogic stage. I am so excited about the possibilities. I've waited 8 years for this! I am going to share it here for the readers of this forum because I think it is so incredibly valuable:

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What I try to do, and I feel like I have good success with this, is when I focus on my body and my breathing, I am being actively mentally engaged in what is going on, and I know we touched a little on this, already, but just to expand a little.  What you succumbed to last night was the “tug.”  It can be strong, but it only lasts for the split second it takes for your body to cross the threshold. You have to be prepared for it.  There is no way around the natural physiological tug your brain is being subjected to. It’s caused by the release of melatonin and a shift in brainwave frequency.  With practice and familiarity, the transition gets easier.  I feel very little tug because I can so acutely control the process, but I have done it many times, as well.
 
What you want to be attempting to do, as you cross the threshold of hypnagogia, is “play an active part mentally” for that split second.  Hold on to the present moment, along with the knowledge that you are aware of everything that is going on, you feel your body going to sleep.  If you get passive during this critical moment and are not focused specifically on being in control, your mind forgets what is going on and you fall asleep.
 
By maintaining an active mental role, you also generate alpha and high-level beta brain-wave frequencies that are characteristic of EEG scans taken from test subjects under hypnagogic-induction.
 
If we understand that the fight is against the brain slowing down too much (i.e. the mind wants to fall asleep,) then we understand that the best way to combat that is to inject a little lucidity.  Lucidity being awareness, you simply want to remain aware of what is happening.
 
You do this by asking yourself “What is going on?”  What is my body doing? Where am I?  What time is it?  What position is my body lying in? When you are this mentally engaged in what is going on, while also simply allowing your body to physically relax, the end result is that the body goes to sleep and the mind stays engaged and lucid.
 
Now, there is also the challenge of making the body go to sleep.  This is where the breathing technique overcomes your obstacle.  First remember that you are controlling what is going on.  The whole purpose of the breathing technique is so that you can actively control your body’s level of relaxation, so that you can actively participate and be engaged in the process and because each time you exhale your breath, your body will slide closer to hypnagogia.  It does this because of specific physiological principles and it may even slip across on the first exhale, though not likely.  If you will take a moment between breaths, only after you exhale, (try this right now, while you are awake and see how relaxing it is) wait just a brief moment before breathing in and during this moment allow yourself to relax deeply.  So breath in, breath out, wait a second, breath in, breath out, wait a second.  During this “second”, this is the moment when your body will go to sleep.
 
When your body is going to sleep, you will feel that “tug,” again.  Just focus on your body, focus on being aware of it going to sleep, continue to relax physically.  You will see that it works like magic!
 
Entering Hypnagogia -  Steps in “1,2,3”
After you wake up:
1)      relax your body
2)      focus on controlled breathing technique
3)      As your body crosses threshold, maintain awareness by actively focusing on your body relaxing and going to sleep
 
Once you have reached the hypnagogic state, give a split second for your body to relax, then pull in the vibrations from the Vehram Array and lift out of your body.
 
Now, unfortunately, any movement of the physical body, limbs, etc., will push you away from the hypnagogic-state. However, because the lungs are semi-autonomous organs, that also happen to be our source for oxygen delivery to the bloodstream, they can carry this very critical function of being used for the purpose of actively forcing the transition into hypnagogia.  During the exhale of breath, the body does not have as high a level of nervous activity as when you are breathing in.  The transition never occurs on an in breath.  When you are breathing out, and you wait for that second at the bottom of the breath, your body is starved of oxygen, just a bit, just enough to shut down your nervous system!  BAM! Your body goes to sleep! Hehe…

Good luck tonight!
 
Vessen Hopkins
Author, “Out-of-Body Experiences: the Vehram Energy System”
http://www.vehram.com

[dbmathis]

OBEvideoguy and Vessen,

Thank you for sharing this! This is much more detailed than what's in the book. I will refine my technique tonight and pay very close attention to the pause in breathing after the exhale.

Best Regards

David

[OBEvideoguy]

Hi David,

I worked with the breathing method recommended by Vessen and had interesting results last night. Because I had to wake up early in the morning, I limited my attempts to only one (after a bathroom break, around 3am). I went back to bed and curled up on my side. Usually I fall asleep within 2 seconds, literally. This time, however, I focused intently on the breathing, in and out. There was one moment, about 5 seconds into it, where I almost felt my mind slip into sleep, but caught myself and focused on the breathing again. But soon after that, maybe a couple of seconds later, I was out.

These results give me great hope that I will be able to watch my body fall asleep while maintaining consciousness. I don't have to get up so early tomorrow morning so will take several stabs at it during sleep tonight.

All day today I was so excited about the possibilities with this System. I know I have to master getting into the hypnogogic before working with the Vehram Array, but one step at a time...

Don

[dbmathis]

Hi OBEvideoguy,

You will do great and the beauty is that it will only get easier and easier and become second nature.

I tried again last night as well but the cat left it's hair in my bed and I was itching too much to keep focused on anything and my 3 year old daughter crawled into bed with us.

I will try again tonight and I will see results if all goes well.

Best Regards

David

[newmethod]

This is an interesting topic:
before i post please know that:
"i am not a Christian and practice no form of religion" but i believe that Jesus was a man that did walk in this realm to teach us things & still is - probably the spiritual figures of other cultures/philosophies were around also - just using Jesus here cause i FEEL it. I believe he used a gateway to cross over into higher realms....

I felt something a few yrs back and about 3 weeks or so ago i was reminded of it again. I will describe my experience of this energy like this...

It centres in the heart - beams down through the legs & out past the feet - energy here travels mainly downward from the heart.
It also comes from the heart and extends out my arm just below my medial deltoid if my arms are by my side & if I extend my arms out (like Jesus did on the cross  ) - The energy travels outward through my arms/hands. I believe it could be the same Energy channeled through the hands by some hands on healers...
the energy also extends upward from the "centre" - (heart chakra) - out of the crown Chakra & also travels in downward through the Crown chakra - this area seems to have the most 2 directional flow.... It obviously extends forward & back through the Heart Chakra - anterior side - energy mostly forward. posterior heart chakra - energy mostly received in through the back (possibly past).. ... almost posted this experience on my blog lately but never...

I believe "the way" - Jesus quote...  is through following this energy - which requires becoming more at one with Love, openness & self..
Just a few thoughts
This Vehram System seems to be related to the same energy that i have been noticing lately. - haven't read the book yet to know though

Peace,
Newmethod

[OBEvideoguy]

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to update those following this thread, on my progress with the Vehram Energy System (I am now going to call it: VES for short).

Due to an intense desire to practice VES, I am waking up more than 5 times a night now, with no signs of sleep deprivation. That gives me multiple opportunities to practice getting into the hypnogogic, the prerequisite to working with the Vehram Array. My subconscious mind is now totally primed, and I think the reason for this is the immense amount of excitement and confidence I feel that this System has all the makings of a revolutionarily discovery in the mechanics of OBE induction. In motivational terms, it's called Intention.

If you've been following this topic, you'll notice a great deal of emphasis on the breathing method, while falling back to sleep. Although I have only been working with VES for about a week, I can honestly say that I have been able to stretch my ability to stay conscious while falling back to sleep. I know that all is required to stretch this to the threshold is practice. Each extra conscious breath I can take, as my body falls asleep, is progress.

I am a professional magician by trade and the concept of practice has been part of my language since childhood. The two rules I grew up on as I worked my craft were:

1. A real magician never reveals the secret.
2. Practice, practice, practice.

Having worked with the fundamentals of OBE induction for 8 years now, I am confident that VES is conceptually sound. It makes absolute sense. And I know that the first major step, getting into the hypnogogic, simply takes practice. Whether this will take weeks or months, I don't care - success is inevitable. I do feel that VES is the fast-track to having conscious OBEs at will, and I am determined to master it!

If you want to take a peak at my life as a motivational speaker / professional magician, check out www.Forging-Ahead.com

Don

[OBEvideoguy]

Okay folks,

I'm quite confident that the initial stage of VES, intention to wake up during the night, is working for me. I awoke over 15 times last night. I stayed awake for less than 10 seconds, 90% of the time, before I fell back asleep. I feel well rested today - NO signs of sleep deprivation, and I've been waking up numerous times for several nights in a row.

On my bedside table is an RCA Digital Voice Recorder and a digital clock. Apart from missing to note the clock a few times, I was pretty good at saying the time out loud into my voice recorder. I made it a habit to voice my plans before going back to sleep. Because a couple of nights ago I fell asleep very quickly, lying on my side, I tried to lie on my back the majority of the time last night. Still, focusing on my breathing was not a strong enough exercise to keep my mind awake as my body fell asleep.

I just read the post "Focusing on my breathing wakes me up completely" and Stookie had some awesome advice - try "noticing" instead. I posted my reply under that topic if you want to check it out - it's an awesome idea and I'm excited about trying it.

So here's my sleep log for last night. I did not want to bore anyone with the details of my dreams and since waking up repeatedly during sleep is my goal, there's no point sharing my dreams in this post:

- 11:02pm - Bedtime
- 11:42pm - Still awake, new bedtime, trying to stay awake and focus on my breathing, conscious attention.
- 2:41am - awoke - bathroom, new attempt, lying on back.
- 3:47am - awoke - bathroom, dream recalled.
- 3:50am - awoke, moved onto back, head slightly tilted to the side.
- 4:05am - awoke - dream recalled - on my back again for next attempt.
- 4:18am - awoke - dream recalled - back to sleep.
- no time noted - dream recalled.
- false awakening - thought the time was 8:50am - plus dream recalled.
- 5:20am - awoke - dream recalled.
- 5:31am - awoke - another attempt.
- 5:56am - awoke - detailed dream recalled - bathroom, then back to bed, concentrate on my breathing, lay on back.
- 6:08am - noted time again, staying on back, not quite to sleep, try on my side this time.
- 6:51am - awoke - wonderful dream...
- 7:08am - awoke - noted that I just fell asleep, giving it another go.
- 7:28am - awoke - two minutes before my alarm was to go off. Then realized that my alarm does not go off until 8:30am. An hour more of sleep! Intention to focus on my breathing as I went back to bed.
- no time noted - awoke - detailed dream recalled.
- no time noted - awoke - short dream recalled.
- 8:30am - awoke to alarm and got up.

[faxman]

I don't wake up as many times as you Don, but I am suffering from sleep deprivation. Certainly, as I describe in the thread that Marika has just started, because I focus on my breathing but nothing happens even though I do the exercice during a long time. I don't fall asleep and no hypnagogic imagery comes, so the final stage from VES can't be reached.

I'll also try the noticing state of mind...

[OBEvideoguy]

Hey faxman,

I will also be working with the noticing, and will update this thread with any progress.

As far as practicing OBE, anytime it gets in the way of a healthy, regular sleep, it should be temporarily stopped. Maybe pick it up again on a night when you don't have to get up early, like a weekend. This OBE stuff should be fun and should NOT get in the way of sleeping soundly. I'm sure many OBEers on this site, beginner and advanced, would agree with me.

Don

[dbmathis]

I was able to have an out of body experience the first time I tried this technique. The Author also says to imagine yourself feeling heavy (which I did) and I watched my body transition into the hypnagogic state.

I would like to point out that focus on breathe is not required, you can focus on anything. I have had several successful OBEs now and each time I focus on whatever. The key is to key mind in the present by focusing on something.

My suggestion is that you alternate your focus between breath and feeling your body float or feel heavy. That's how I am always successful and it's actually mentioned and overlooked in the VEH system.

Best regards

David

[faxman]

Alternating the body feeling and the breathing is an excellent idea. Doing both at the same time may be the reason why I can't reach the hypnagogic state...too much to do in a half-sleep mode.

thanks for this suggestion.

[dbmathis]

hehe, it's is a lot to swallow when half out of it.

I notice that on some nights when I wake up around 3, my mind is somewhere else and I can't seem to get my mind centered on what my goal is, which is OBE. Perhaps some mental conditioning during the day?

I have noticed that thinking about it all day and repeating mantras sometimes help to keep the goal in your subconscious.

I am just happy to see people trying to learn this skill, to me this is a very exciting moment in history. You will succeed if you keep trying and I will see you all there.

Best Regards

David

[marika]

I would like to point out that focus on breathe is not required, you can focus on anything. I have had several successful OBEs now and each time I focus on whatever. The key is to key mind in the present by focusing on something.

Best regards

David

Now this is something I'll give it a shot this weekend. Since focusing on my breathing gives me 'breathing problems' and I'll stay awake for a long itme with nothing but sleep deprivation, I'll be focusing on something else instead.