The Vehram System is truly brilliant!

[jub jub]

Let me just say real quick Vessen, you have an extraordinary ability to explain yourself. Very clear, concise an easily understood. I noticed it in your book as well. 

[faxman]

Thanks for those explanations Vessen.

We do keep a positive attitude but it's true , the process is not that easy. Staying awake enough when waking up during the night is difficult...but of course, not impossible.

So let's keep this thread alive and share our successes soon !

[marika]

Thanks Vessen for shedding some more light into my problem of being too wide awake when I awaken. I'll give it a shot tonight, as tomorrow we have a public holiday around here, so 'i can play' during the night without being afraid that I'll fall asleep tomorrow at work 
Will post back if I had any success tomorrow.
marika

[jub jub]

3-31-09

It seems my internal alarm is working well. I set it for 2 am and woke at 2:20. Not too bad. Unfortunately, as soon as I woke, my expectations ran high and the monkey chatter started to set in. I did feel small vibrations at one point but was unable to strengthen them so they faded. I listened to a clock in the kitchen as my focal point, counting each tick, all the while my mind started thinking about what I was to expect. I just didn't feel the sleepiness.


Next thing I know it's 6:00 am and my alarm goes off! Must have dosed without even realizing it! Frustrating to say the least!

[faxman]

I think jub jub we almost had the same experience the same night !

I confirm, it's really frustrating

[OBEvideoguy]

Hey jub jub & faxman,

I understand frustrating. As I've posted earlier, I am a professional magician. I recall, on numerous occasions, trying a new card move or sleight with coins. My fingers felt like butter when I first started practicing and soon became sore from engaging muscles that have never worked in that particular combination. Days and weeks and months would go by as I practiced and practiced. Then, I would hit a certain threshold and WHAM! I was able to execute the move. Then came the hard part, performing the trick in front of an audience. A whole new ball of wax. Live performances tested my timing, angles, psychological focus, patter, and misdirection. Eventually I would perfect the effect and add it to my routine. I recall working on one particular card effect called "The Pass" - I probably rehearsed this difficult move for a year before it was ready for audiences. That was 20 years ago.

Then, a few weeks ago, a local magician at a magic meeting performed the exact same sleight using a refined method that involved little movement/misdirection. It was brilliant! Some magician, somewhere along the line, came up with a pronounced improvement on "The Pass" and published it in a magic book.

I really think that VES is an improvement over the standard way I've been using to have OBEs. Numerous short attempts after waking up at night/early morning, far outshine the hour or two I have usually spent, hemi-sync headphones on, lying on my back, waiting for that magic moment, year after year.

Don

[CFTraveler]

You're cute.   

[OBEvideoguy]

Hey CFTraveler,

Well actually, that photo was taken 6 years ago. Now my hair is gray and short and I've put on around 30 pounds! But thanks...

Don
 

[faxman]

I keep my daily OBE regimen anyway, trying to have success with phasing.

I suppose that VES + Phasing should produce results.

[VessenHopkins]

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to say thank you!  All of those here who have taken the time and effort to explore the Vehram Array have done so with such a tremendously positive attitude, and a real dedication to exploring this subject matter without prejudice.  It is often easier to dismiss things that are unfamiliar and stick with what we know.  You have all shown exactly the opposite: a strong desire to explore new things and an equal willingness to share with others.

You have built yet another wall of confidence in the work that has consumed the last 18 years of my life and I cannot fully express what it means to me to be able to see those of you having success!  I also believe that it is simply a matter of practice, patience, and persistence before all have met with the highest levels of success.  I have seen no lack in any of these departments on the part of you folks, which is why I know that we will continue to see great progress.

I deeply appreciate your critical support and will continue to offer any help and/or advice that I may have.  Thank you for your encouragement, through actions and words.  You are making the difference!

[faxman]

Thank you also Vessen for being so clear in your explanations.

Will you update your ebook from time to time and give new download link for your customers then ? that'd be great.

maybe could you tell in the book more about the array and what they do on an energy level...maybe you could create a FAQ according to the PM questions you answered ?

It could be a very exciting process for all of us, your students 

[jub jub]

Last night I woke up several times and reached the vibrational stage almost immediately. Unfortunately, the vibrations weren't strong enough to project. At one point I was seeing vivid imagery as though watching a movie but I was still very aware of my body laying in the bed. It seems every night brings me closer to my goal! I just hope I don't give up before getting there.

[faxman]

I am still stuck in the breathing process. No vibrations or hypnagogic images yet.

[phxsun]

Well when I can stay awake, the vibrations seem to come easy. Last night I woke up at about 3am. I started the breathing and about three breaths in the vibrations started, but this time they were only in my head, which I thought was strange. I was totally aware of my body, but was unable to OBE  .......still trying.

[VessenHopkins]

Just a quick note to answer back some of the questions asked by faxman and to offer insight on current stages of progress for others...

I am currently working on an updated version of the e-book.  34 pages is an extremely condensed version I will also cover an alternate method for hypnagogic-induction.

I appreciate your questions as they represent the very areas where others may have concerns and these will be clarified in an updated version of the e-book.  You all are somewhat a "live test run" and your feedback is invaluable in terms of letting me know where more information is needed.  Everyone will receive the updated version of the e-book via e-mail as soon as it comes available.
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I am still stuck in the breathing process. No vibrations or hypnagogic images yet.

When you wake up, take a moment to first just mentally relax and be sure to remain calm.  One of the greatest culprits at this stage is adrenaline.  We get excited, even just a little, and the body awakens (or otherwise doesn't slip toward hypnagogia.)  Also, you can practice just the breathing/relaxation technique during the day to train your body to more immediately relax.  Familiarity enables us to recall from memory more easily and be able to more quickly induce the state.  This will make it much easier to follow through at night.  Don't worry about expecting images during hypnagogia.  It happens to some, not so for others.

phxsun and jub jub:  when you reach hypnagogia, remember to pull the energy from the power centers of the Vehram Array into your body to increase the intensity.  I have experienced, however, much the same thing when the energy seems to be at an overall low level.  This can be caused by anythng that is having a "vitality draining" effect on us (including a lot of negativity in our lives, as well as engaging in sexual intercourse,) but usually is caused simply by natural cycles the ethereal goes through (fluctuations in the power center's diameter, and or, distance from the body.)

You may have to reach a little further, sometimes, or pull energy from the Vehram Array for a little longer before you achieve a strong level of vibrations.  The power source is always there, however.  Also remember that you have control over where this energy will flow, but only if you take control.  The vibrations tend to equalize on their own, but will occasionally "pool together" in your head, for instance.  You have to disperse this energy by willing it to expand throughout your body in order to fully equalize the bonds that bind your ethereal body to the physical.

Best of luck and thanks to all for keeping us posted!