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« on: August 06, 2003, 17:08:13 »

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2003, 19:51:11 »

I'm not really sure what you mean by visualization either.  It sounds like visualization to you is seeing things behind your closed eyelids, is that correct?  Robert Bruce states that visualization IS imagination... the two are one in the same.  Perhaps you need to be more specific on exactly what you are expecting, or want, to happen.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2003, 20:06:18 »

Hi Nordcyk !

Although I have never been in the situation you describe, I'm guessing that it is the prelude to viewing some kind of "astral screen" (looks a bit like a movie screen). I've experienced this a few times. From there, you step into the screen, and you are in another world / environment.

Your initial post sounds like you're assuming that you are flying around e.g. your house or back garden. Its probable that this is not the case; as you step through into the astral, you might find yourself somewhere entirely different.

Anyway....there are 2 approaches.
1) focus into the blackness in front of you. This should have 3d depth, and not just be what you see behind your eyelids. (if you have the sensation of flying around, perhaps you also have this perception of depth.) Try and find an area that looks slightly different....maybe, a greyish patch, or a point of light. Focus on it, as it grows larger.

2) imagine a scenario. See Frank's post in "astral conciousness" for a great description.

Well, I'm not sure if either technique will work for you, but give them a go. And bear in mind that there are tonnes of techniques that might work for you, buried in the pages of this site !

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 06:51:05 »

Hello everyone,

Here is a visualization excersie that you can do.

                           VISUALIZATION

Not everyone visualized the same, for each individual it is different.  When asking someone to visualize, you may find some that say they are unable to or that they just donít know how.  This is not surprising but very common with most people.

However, I have developed a method that Iíve been successful with using to teach most people to visualize.  The truth is that everyone can and do visualize, but do not understand what visualization is nor that they have been doing it all of their lives.  So, instead of explaining this to people who would not believe you any way, I have found a way to convince them that visualization can be taught.

Close your eyes and I want you to think of how many doors are in your house? As you start to count the doors in your house with out thinking about it your picturing yourself in front of the house facing the front door, then the next room and you look around and see the next door and you realize that your walking through all the rooms counting all the doors.

Now think of another house maybe your parents house or grandparents house and do the same thing.  As you count each door in the house pay attention as to what is in each room also.  Take note of the items in the room.
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Another one you can do to is this simple exercise:

Begin by asking him to think of an apple.  Tell him that maybe it is so red and ripe that  the skin may even have little white specks in it.  Ask him to let you know when he sees this in his mind.  Once he affirms that he sees in his mind the apple, then ask him to change the apple to an orange.  Maybe the skin of this orange is so sthat it even has the little dimples of the skin.  When this has been accomplished then go on to a lemon, a bright yellow lemon.

Then the leaves of a tree, the leaves are a deep green.  The afternoon sky, so blue and clear.  Next the dark indigo blue of a night sky.  He may even notice the twinkling of stars.  Then the early morning sky when just before the sun breaks on the horizon in the east where you notice the color violet in the morning sky.  Finally, pure white puffy clouds, high in that beautiful sky.

To visualized is to see within the mind and not by use of the eyes.  An image in the mind is not usually as clear nor solid as the image we see with the eyes.  Some people do not relate to colores but might relate other things like objects or memories of places and even people they have seen.

Remember to go slow giving him enough time to focus his thoughts on what you are asking him to visualize.  Once it is clear to him move on to another target.  Praise him as he progresses to create a form of positive reinforcement.  When he responds favorably to this technique, then bring to his attention, what he has done is called visualization.

I hope this helps you.
Any other questions please feel free to e-mail me at hypnotist41@aol.com

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2003, 07:34:41 »

I seem to have this same problem. No matter how hard I think about something, I just cant visualiz it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2003, 10:07:31 »

hi there Snowman024 !

just remember that you are not trying to "see" an object / scenario....you are trying to imagine it.

Think about when you are daydreaming. That's your imagination, gone wandering. When you visualize, you take control of your imagination. There are lots of good examples in Robert Bruce's "astral dynamics".
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2003, 17:00:28 »

I know that visualization is acually just imagining. But I have a problem concentrating on one image. I try to visualize, but it only comes as like flashes or something. Like when somebody has a quick flashback in a movie. It isnt for more then 1 or 2 seconds long.

I hear of people hear visualizing for longer than that. How can I do that?

How can I learn to concentrate on one image and keept it there? Also, if I try to visualize something... it is always the point that I am looking at. Everything else in the visualiztion that I am not focusing on is more, faded out and less detailed, unless I focus on the specific point.

I dont know if I am explaining it right but thats the best I can do.

Any help on this?
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2003, 16:55:51 »

I've just found this site I'm hoping someone could help...

I've been flying blind for many years now, I need to know how to develop my visual senses.  The problem is, just as I start to drift off, I immediately drop to delta state. Also when I just close my eyes, the only thing I 'see' is black. If there's any movement, it's also black.

I've tried several techniqes and practiced (off and on) for years to get the visio to turn on but without luck.

This is stopping me in several areas.
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