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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2005, 21:04:08 »

I've gone the self sufficient route as I've had insufficient personal evidence of anything more. I cannot see these things-chakras etc. The only reason I practice is because I can however feel energy and sense the chakras that way.

My youngest brother has been able to "see" energy with his eyes shut for years. Woods and natural places are nearly overwhelming for him.
Yesterday I was pumping energy through my arm to see what he could see. Apparently he couldn't continue to look at it-he said it was like magnesium burning, yet I was only working at a basic level-due to tiredness.  So evidently what I do has an affect that can be seen if one has that sense.

It does seem that certain abilities are not a matter of self belief alone. He hadn't really thought about that, he just could do it.  I taught him the basic energy work 5 years ago, to help him bypass my own years of not having anyone who knew anything about it. I started at 11, he started with my input at 10.

He can see what he thinks are spirits for sure.
I'm very comfortable with my energy work, because nothing I do or try goes any further really. I do not understand what is meant by "shift your perceptions higher" .
I tried several times to find teachers to help me when I was younger-unfortunately I met with "New Agey" wafty individuals who couldn't do what I did. I mean New Agey in the real tinkling bells wafty sense rather than any of you who perhaps practice in a more realistic way smiley.  
Mr Bruce and also Salvatore who was on the recent course are two exceptions to that so far (that I've met in the real world that is). smiley

I'm not comfortable with an etheric is it there or isn't it type of thinking. It's not real to me. Hence probably why I can't work with guides etc, not real enough to me. Compared to the heat and electricity of energy work anyway..
hmm...one glass of wine too many and look where I go...
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2005, 21:06:52 »

PeterPanic:

You are considerably more powerful than any Neg.  Why do you choose to let it drain your energy?  Why do you choose to keep you energies low enough to let a Neg even get near you?  Negs like 'low' energies, if you only have higher/Love energeis, then negs can't feed can they?  Take away the cause and effect and they disappear.  The law of attraction states Like attracts Like, ask yourself why are you attracting Negs?

Narfellus:

Practical examples of Guides in action?

A long term project has been to get me to Love myself.  Don't laugh, many people don't like/love themselves.  They want to love others, and be loved, but they don't love themselves.  Do you truly like/love yourself?  How do my guides help me with this?  One of my Guardian Angels is like a chearleader.  I'm always getting a 'I Love you' message.  And I've had this Angel for every incarnation.  Think about that, over 22,000+ years of incarnating on earth, and the same Angel is with me every moment I'm on this side of the Veil.  That is what unconditional Love is all about.

Another Guide has been working with me in January to shift my energies higher.  I was getting 'comfortable' working in my normal energies.  I naturally vibrate in a purple/violet range.  I do most of my 'work' in this range.  I don't have to stretch to do this, it's natural.  A lot of 1-on-1 work was done to get me to force my perceptions and energies higher.  Mostly he did it by standing in front of the TV.  Again, don't laugh, it is effective.  I can see him standing there as a golden glowing form.  If I really ignore him, I'll start seeing bright purple dots that look like LED's.  Just his way of getting my attention.  I had a rather amazing attunement in the middle of January that really flushed a lot of stuff loose and it was much easier to shift after that.  I shift at work a lot now, we have a lot of Devics around this area.  Last Sunday I was sitting in church ( A Unity Church, we meditate as part of service) and I shifted up into Gold, then beyond....a sort of Gold with multi-colored accents and the place was FULL of higher beings (everyone elses guides as well).  And if you can shift higher, you can work higher.  I attended a healing in Hawaii 2 weekends ago, not bad for living in Ohio.  Not your classical OBE, but I was 100% present in those healing circles, and actually took a turn being cleared myself.

My Higher-Self first made concious contact last October.  It took me forever to work out it's a partnership, not any master/slave relationship.  When I say 'Free Will' I really mean it.  Many things are 'My' choice, as opposed to 'our' choice.  My Higher-Self sort of ran the pre-incarnation lesson plan until I learned to drive.  Now she (yes, my higher-self is more female than male at the moment) sort of handles the navigation while I drive.  However, there are still lessons she throws at me because I want/need them, even if I conciously disagree.  Last night was a perfect example (ain't synchronicities great!  A culmination of Januaries work, and a retrograde).  Many things came together last night concerning my Path.  All my guides brought things together, then threw it in my lap.  They all, along with my higher self, worked to set something up, but it was up to me to go with it or not.  They lead the horse to water, metaphorically speaking.  So I'm sitting there surrounded by Love and Support, deciding if I want to go with what was being offered, or change my Path right there.  Interesting sensation, but ultimately we change our Path constantly.  We re-write our contracts dynamically, they are always in flux.  Finally I accepted (at 12:12, which has significance for Lightworkers), and the energy surge was poigently intricate (as opposed to numbingly powerful).  My Path is now different than the one I walked yesterday, the only difference being I really Know it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2005, 21:07:40 »

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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 21:09:39 »

Recently I have had a few experiences of being helped by a guide of some kind. Until then I was mostly convinced that people who spoke of guides were just making it up as they went along. Either way, the important thing is that I am going on my own experience and not someone else's.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2005, 00:28:08 »

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Tayesin,

I don't understand that thing of parts of the higher self reincarnating. Does that mean there is One Higher self for more than one person?

Another thing is that it seems to me that helpers/guardians/guides are weaker than negs... why don't they effectively protect us against negs? Even the weaker ones? It also seems to me that helpers help is very limited I don't feel them... however I do feel when some neg is sucking my energies.

I browsed your site and liked it very much, we all thank you to share what you know  rolleyes


For your higher self, think of it in these terms.
Think of yourself as the tip of a finger. You can trace the tip of the finger, to find that it is connected to a whole finger.  Than after awhile you realize that your finger, is connected to a hand.  Then you realize, that there are other "tips of a finger" that are also connected to seperate fingers all around you, that are also connected to you by the hand.  Now compare the  hand to your entire body.  

The best lessons in life are thoes you've learned first hand. If a guide shoed away negs everytime one was pestering you, do you think you'd ever learn to do it on your own? Or that negs really are more or a nusicence/annoyance than any threat.  We are here to learn.  Not to be spoon fed.  It is up to us to break though boundries that we previously thought where impossible, not to a guide. They are there to watch, and once in awhile when needed, give a slight push in the right direction.

Hope this helps
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2005, 01:13:14 »

> What are your feeling about Guides?

I just know I don't need them.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2005, 03:10:11 »

Hi PeterPanic,
It's like Ender said.  The higher-self is huge, and it can and does have more than one incarnation on this earth as well as other places and realms.  It is active in every level of the astral, every level above that too... into what I call the Soul Layers and then further up until what I call the Oversoul level.  Don't know what others call those levels because most of what I've seen is confused about the astral, mental, atmic etc, and I think that astral to mental is all within the Astral layers.

Guides and Helpers can't do the work for you, they can only help when you ask for it and if you let them.  The thing with Negs is there are contracts we have with them to provide certain experiences here, so they are really helping us to grow through our fears and find the most effective Loving way to deal with them when they attack.  So they too are helpers in that sense.

Hope this helped.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2005, 04:19:15 »

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Guides and Helpers can't do the work for you, they can only help when you ask for it and if you let them.  The thing with Negs is there are contracts we have with them to provide certain experiences here, so they are really helping us to grow through our fears and find the most effective Loving way to deal with them when they attack.  So they too are helpers in that sense.

Hope this helped.
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hmmm, contracts?
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2005, 23:40:11 »

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2005, 01:04:02 »

On rare occasions I have had exceptionally lucid dreams, in which an individual who appears as anyone of a number of people (appropriate to the message), gives me advice.  Although the appearance is always different (frequently but not always someone I know) I have learned to distinguish and recognize the voice and mannerisms as unique to one individual. I am convinced it is my guide.
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2005, 02:49:12 »

Oddly enough I side with Veccolo on his decision.  It is indeed his choice.  He continually makes the choice, and is free to modify his decisions slightly or greatly at anytime, and his guides will never Judge him for it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2005, 02:54:40 »

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Oddly enough I side with Veccolo on his decision.  It is indeed his choice.  He continually makes the choice, and is free to modify his decisions slightly or greatly at anytime, and his guides will never Judge him for it.


I also agree that it always comes down to being your choice, but arrogantly believing that you dont need divine help, and that you are better than anyhelp that the divine could offer is just asking to be humbled.

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2005, 06:11:10 »

There is the question of whether anyone (spirit wise) actually wants to help or get involved!, I'm not sure that they always do for everyone really. For some I suspect they just stay away instead for various reasons?
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2005, 06:11:33 »

There is the question of whether anyone (spirit wise) actually wants to help or get involved!, I'm not sure that they always do for everyone really. For some I suspect they just stay away instead for various reasons?
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2005, 06:17:50 »

In our physical lives we must choose to have faith in certain people in order to function.  We take a leap of faith every time we establish a relationship, be it personal or professional.  It does not mean that we follow blindly, the decisions are thoughtfully considered.

If you were to travel to the amazon jungle, or the Himalayan mountains you would choose a guide because your knowledge of the landscape is insufficient.

In our current form we have little knowledge of our landscape, and I believe the most knowledgeable among us would be the first to agree with that statement. Why then would we not choose to listen to and seriously consider the advice of a guide who inspired trust in us (not blindly in any entity) if that information were available?
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