Why is this getting harder...

[Eyyoshi]

Seriously during the very first times attempting, a year ago, I could hit sensations, swaying, trance. But progressively it's getting harder and harder each month. Nowadays I can't reach anything. Last night I was relaxed stretched a bit, layed down for like 30 minutes didn't get anything. Personalreality told me not to hope for sensations, well I just use them as signposts. It used to be fun attempting this I would get semi-close to projecting, at least it gave me hope.

I try every morning now, sometimes at night for the hell of it. I try to be passive, I don't do the ROPE technique (or any tech) I simply just lie and observe the blackness. Like I all ways have. Whenever I hit vibrations/buzzing I notice them but continue to relax, everything feels different. Then a minute or so later everything goes back to normal and it just feels like I'm laying down.

[manwesulimo2004]

This sounds exactly like my progress. I've actually stopped trying by now due to lack of motivation.

[shineling]

I don't know if this helps but...

I never read anything about AP until it started happening to me naturally.

The way it started with me was that I would take naps during the day. It would happen when I would leave the TV on or the radio and a light on. I was just doze off and since there was some noise in the room I would hit that sweet spot.

So... I would doze off and then something would catch me attention like the TV. And then I would become aware suddenly in that zone.

Then I just rolled over like a log unto the floor and I would be out of my body.

This is the technique I've been using since forever. Sometimes sleeping backwards in your bed from your normal nighttime position helps me too. I use my blanket but only to my waist.

Also being tired and excercising helps too. You exercise and then take a nap during the day.


But I think I know what you mean... the more you want it the more it eludes you.  Then one day you stop trying and it happens.  Maybe that's what you need to do... take a brake. 

[CFTraveler]

Seriously during the very first times attempting, a year ago, I could hit sensations, swaying, trance. But progressively it's getting harder and harder each month. Nowadays I can't reach anything. Last night I was relaxed stretched a bit, layed down for like 30 minutes didn't get anything. Personalreality told me not to hope for sensations, well I just use them as signposts. It used to be fun attempting this I would get semi-close to projecting, at least it gave me hope.

I try every morning now, sometimes at night for the hell of it. I try to be passive, I don't do the ROPE technique (or any tech) I simply just lie and observe the blackness. Like I all ways have. Whenever I hit vibrations/buzzing I notice them but continue to relax, everything feels different. Then a minute or so later everything goes back to normal and it just feels like I'm laying down.

Every morning sounds like too much, IMO.  Try just observing all week, and then try something once a week, and see what happens.  Or just take a break for at least two weeks and then start trying again, but don't stop meditating, or whatever practice you do.

[Pauli2]

Could it be that in the beginning your energy body was very immature, so even a little exercise gave a noticeable effect?

Now when ur energy body has adopted you might perhaps start doing real energy work in advance to your attempts. Some do R Bruce's NEW gathering technique.

Try changing techniques. See the Book review forum for ideas.

[Xanth]

Eyyoshi,
My opinion is that you're now expecting things to happen and trying too hard to make them happen.
Let go of your expectations and just let whatever might happen to happen. 

[catmeow]

Lay off for a week or two and try the interrupted sleep technique. It's the best technique, should be documented on this board somewhere.

OK what's the "interrupted sleep" aka "wake-back-to-bed" technique? Well we used to have a member called saltcube who probably provided the clearest and best techniques for AP that I ever saw. He described the interrupted sleep technique very well. He has now erased his posts from this board and is now selling a video of his techniques on the internet. I haven't seen the video but it's probably very good.

This seems to be an excerpt from the video, though it doesn't say much about "wake-back-to-bed":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfygCo5efoE

You can easily google "wake-back-to-bed" or "OBE every morning" or "saltcube" etc etc and find details of these techniques.  But perhaps you should just pay for the video. To be fair, he used to give quality advice on this board for years for free.

[willowthewisp]

I am in the same situation Eyyoshi, and i think it's as Xanth said, as all the interesting results i got were when i first started, and the more i knew the less i progressed, cause i started expecting specific things to happen. One of the bad habbits i got was putting the vibrations as a goal, which kept me from reaching that state. And the 2 times i got to the vibrations i didn't know what to do next.
Plus, the fact that i read so much on AP seems to limit me, so i decided that i know enough for now...

I took a break a week ago, i'm only doing some exercices, one of my favorite is closing the eyes (wherever i am), and try to quiet my mind and relax; i do it as often as i can. I think a break could do u some good too. I was almost obsessed with AP and used to try every day, i saturated my mind with ideas, techniques and exercises, and still didn't get any result ... i don't think it was the right approach. Now i'm trying to take it easy and let it happen naturally. If i ever feel in the right state of mind, i'll attempt to have an OBE, till then, i'll just keep writing in my dream journal.

[catmeow]

"wake-back-to-bed" 

[grzazek]

I'm in the same boat as you! THe only time I practice now is 4 in the morning which has weilded a few successful OBEs

[manwesulimo2004]

[...] but don't stop meditating, or whatever practice you do.

I hear this a lot. What exactly is the connection between meditation and AP or more specifically OBE. I could imagine one's ability to concentrate and general control over thoughts and emotions improves from regular meditation but that sounds more helpful for the OBE experience once it is achieved than it does for achieving an OBE in the first place.

So... What gives?

[CFTraveler]

Meditation is a way to go into trance- the way to push your conscious awareness into staying aware no matter what.  To have a successful projection you have to stay aware- simple.  So the more you can push yourself to stay aware when what you want to do is sleep, the more you can push the 'frontier' of awareness into the depths, where there is more to experience.
When I say 'meditation' I am not advocating a specific type- whatever works.  But keep at it, it changes how your brain works, in a good way.

[OutOfThePrison]

I think only having a full Out Of Body Experience mustn't be the first target when we lay down and start a meditation. Relaxing must be the first target. When you rushing yourself with "I have to get out now" thoughts you can't enjoy the relaxation. I realized that when I enter to non-physical transforming process, it is simply healing me. And also Non-Physical awareness lets us to experience the "life" without the limitations of the physical world. It also helps us to get rid of our egos. I use these meditations as healing process to my depression. It really works when I enjoy the "time" without expecting any results.

[Stookie]

One more suggestion: if you've been doing the same exercises for a long time, find something more challenging that forces you to be more engaged, concentrated, focused, etc. It sounds like you've mastered what you're doing, but you need more now. Lying there and waiting ain't gonna do it.

[OutOfThePrison]

 

The process is hard for me too. Concentration is my main problem. This is a suggestion from an amateur(me) to Eyyoshi.


Breath from your mouth, and be aware your breathing and only concentrate to it. As long as you don't think anything and concentrate to your breath, your mind will clear itself and your body will relax automatically. Then imagine yourself on a location, my preference is an imaginary place such as mountain, lake exc..Regard yourself that you are in a dream and this dream is your creation.