Achieving consciousness state for Astral phasing

[Tracy]

Adrian,

Did you want the whole sequence, from C-1 all the way to astral arrival or just the steps to achieve a proper trance state and from then on people kind of find their own specialized sequence through the portal or doorway?

Appreciatively,

Tracy


 

[Adrian]

Greetings Tracy!

Thank you for your response and your question.

I am not too familiar with Monroe focus levels aside from what I have learned here, but in answer to your question, I amtrying to find out how people are achieving the pre-requisite trance state (F10?, F12?) as a pre-cursor to phasing into the Astral by any phasing method.

So it is achieving what I think would be an  F12 state.

Thanks again.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[Donna]

OK,
Here's what I do. First I write a definate "intent" on a piece of paper. This is where I want to go or what I wish to accomplish. I feel that this notifies my subconscious. I then get barefoot with both feet flat on the floor, feet close together. I place my hands palms down in my lap, usually one on each thigh..I may or may not listen to Hemi- or Holo-Sync. I relax and concentrate on the darkness behind my eyes and keeping my breathing at a slow steady pace. I feel as though I am waiting....expecting to soon see the colors that begin to swirl into the darkness behind my eyes.
 At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).
Once the colors beging to swirl, (violet,dark blue, white and gold) it is not long before a tunnel forms. I then begin to move my conciousness into and through this tunnel to arrive at my intended purpose or destination. Often, if I have requested a quide, this is when I will meet my guide.
Upon returning to my body I will feel the "vibrations" others speak of when they exit, but I do not experience them upon my exit. I do have a "body" there and can even change my clothing with a "thought" in an instant. I can communicate with others and have all of my senses, plus the ability to fly and the ability to focus my vision on a distant scene and bring it into a magnified focus (as if it were right in front of me).  I have the ability to speak with those who have passed over in death, see and touch them too.

I have experienced many interesting and creative adventures using the
above method.
Donna

 

[Adrian]

Greetings Donna!

That is extremely useful input - thanks for that!

I take it you are sitting on a chair then to do this phasing?

Three questions if I may:

1) How does this "tunnel" manifest?  

I suspect many people can achieve the state immediately before that with the swirling colours and so on, but do not receive the "invitation" to cross over into the Astral. I.e. it just remains as swirling colours or blackness.

2) Do you lose all sense of your physical body before the tunnel appears (i.e. in a full trance), and also during the projection itself can you sense the presence of your physical body, or does it sort of blend into the background?

3) Do you find the hemi/holo-sync makes any appreciable difference?

Thanks once again.

With best regards,

Adrian.


 

[Donna]

Originally posted by Adrian

quote:
Greetings Donna!

Hi Adrian

quote:
That is extremely useful input - thanks for that!
I take it you are sitting on a chair then to do this phasing?

Yes

quote:
Three questions if I may:

1) How does this "tunnel" manifest?

At the first appearance of the colors it is as if they are spiked and jagged clouds which move into my visual field from the right and the left side towards the center. These swirl together as other colors come in from the side, this is quite beautiful and entertaining to watch. This movement speeds up until I get the "feeling" that I am moving forward into the center, As this progresses the black void is to the outside of my visual field and I am traveling very swiftly with these clouds to the end of this tunnel, often there will be swerves and slight curves in my progress (this travel is very fast, as I move "through" cloud formations in front of me.

quote:
I suspect many people can achieve the state immediately before that with the swirling colours and so on, but do not receive the "invitation" to cross over into the Astral. I.e. it just remains as swirling colours or blackness.

As I progess with this swift forward movement the clouds begin to thin, and often a "starscape" will appear which is my arrival point. The first time I ever did this I could not make myself go "forward", no matter what I tried,and had to return to my body. The next attempt I did succeed. I think the "written
intent" was what made this successful, as I had no goal in mind the first attempt. I learned by trial and error.

quote:
2) Do you lose all sense of your physical body before the tunnel appears (i.e. in a full trance), and also during the projection itself can you sense the presence of your physical body, or does it sort of blend into the background?

 When I use "this method" to travel, I am unaware of my physical body entirely by the time I reach the "starscape". Often though, if I proclaim a written intent to visit the "Great Pyramid" or "Stonehenge" or
any other point my exit will be at that destination.Until that time I gradually lose awareness of the physical, and am in "full trance".

quote:
3) Do you find the hemi/holo-sync makes any appreciable difference?

As I began the hemi/holo-sync tapes before attempting to leave my body, some three years ago, it is hard for me to say. I often simply go into alternate states of conciousness without the help of the tapes. Though I learned that the connection that is formed between the right and left hemespheres of the brain with using the tapes is permanent. So once having used the tapes for the prescribed "time" they are no longer necessary. I was careful to use them as prescribed by Monroe Institute to gain this permanent bridge between the spheres of my brain. The instructions are in the materials they send with the tapes.

quote:
Thanks once again.

With best regards,

Adrian.

I am happy to answer these and any other questions if they can be of benefit.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
Donna

 

[Adrian]

Greetings Donna,

Thanks again, and yes, you can be sure your information is of benefit http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Could I just ask you - which Monroe CD(s) did you use, and what is the "prescribed time" for the brain sync to become permanent according to Monroe, and in your own experience?

Thanks for your other info - most useful.

I am beginning to think that the pre-requisite trance state can be achieved considerably sooner and consistently using the hemi-sync, than by getting there by meditation alone. Providing one does not become dependant on the hemi-sync CD's, as appears not to be the vase, then they do seem to be very worthwhile.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Donna]

quote:Originally posted by Adrian:
Greetings Donna,

Thanks again, and yes, you can be sure your information is of benefit http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Could I just ask you - which Monroe CD(s) did you use, and what is the "prescribed time" for the brain sync to become permanent according to Monroe, and in your own experience?
I have searched the phamphlets for the Holo- and Hemi- Sync sessions that I have. In the "Mind Food" set from Monroe Institute it reads: " Hemi-Sync, a patented, scientifically-proven, auditory-guidance technology, is a process which uses carefully blended and sequenced sound frequencies to produce a frequency following response (FFR) in the two hemispheres of your brain. This FFR enables listeners to accomplish their goals by achieving and sustaining a focused, highly productive, coherent brain state. Hemi-Sync, based on more than fourty years of on-going reasearch at TMI, helps strenghten mental, physical, and emotional capabilities and empowers you to experience these capabilities while listening.
The Mind Food set contains "The Visit" and "Transcendence" CDs.
The More entailed written material from TMI that came with these CDs has more pertaining to the permanancy of the brain syncranization, but I can't find them just now.

The Holo-Sync instructions state that The first CD in their set "The End Awakenig Prologue Program" must be used daily for 14 days. This CD is called "The Dive", which produces brain wave patterns from alpha to deep delta.. Then the second CD is added it is called "Immersion, which is a contuniuation of the deep delta state.  Among the many instructions with these CD,s in this set,they have a set period of time to use each CD as a minimum . They also include "Oasis", induces a theta brain wave pattern, and "Quietude" incuces an alpha brain wave pattern.  I will quote from their instructional booklet "
"How to tell if you are ready for the next level:"
1) You have completed at least four months of use of Awakening Prologue:
2) if you have been experiencing any upheaval as a result of using the program, it has smoothed out
3)you are able to consistently remain fully conscious during your listening sessions,
4)you have a feeling that the soundtaacks are not as powerful or do not have the same impact they once had.
This program offers custom tapes and CDs after this first level with further inhanced entrainment for  the brain.There is also a hotline and 24 hr. assistance with these CDs. I will now quote again from the leaflet " It is not possible to use this technology without the brain changing, any more than it is possible to exercise without your body changing."
Because this series causes a lot of psychological upheavel (for some people), or change in the brains' mechanics, they offer a serious support system.
http://www.centerpointe.com [/b] [/b]

Thanks for your other info - most useful.

I am beginning to think that the pre-requisite trance state can be achieved considerably sooner and consistently using the hemi-sync, than by getting there by meditation alone. Providing one does not become dependant on the hemi-sync CD's, as appears not to be the vase, then they do seem to be very worthwhile.

With best regards,

Adrian.

 

[Lysear]

thanks for your ideas about looking at the blackness in your eyelids, i will be trying this tonight and hopefully I will have positive results as i have only got into trance once before and that took about an hour!!


                    Lysear


 

[coral1]

Hi All
         During my last projection I was moving at a high rate of speed toward what appeared to be an astral plane structure in the distance. I rolled onto my back and saw thin wispy clouds with a starfield in the backgound:very similar to what you describe. I got an overwhelming sense of vertigo and came awake in my body. Is the starfield an entrance? I guess I`m just asking for some astal directions.I didn`t see any roadsigns!
         Thanks

coral1

[Donna]

[Maybe it's for our own protection...especially if we are not ready, mentally/physically etc.
Blessing
Focus15

Hi Focus15,
I had a more recent problem reaching the realms, it concerned a physical problem I was having at the time. My teacher met me in the ethers between here and the school to explain my problem. He/she said that I was having a little "set-back" and that when I was concentrating on the physical it lowered my vibration not allowing me to anchor my conciousness in the higher plane. She/he explained that where we focus our attention had a lot to do with our vibratory rate. Joy and laughter raise it, pain and physical illness lower it. This problem started with me "flipping" away from my connetion "there" during class and having to continually "reconnect". My physical condition worsened and so did my ability to project to the classroom. Once the problem passed, all was well again and my daily lessons there continued.



quote]Originally posted by coral1:
Hi All
         During my last projection I was moving at a high rate of speed toward what appeared to be an astral plane structure in the distance. I rolled onto my back and saw thin wispy clouds with a starfield in the backgound:very similar to what you describe. I got an overwhelming sense of vertigo and came awake in my body. Is the starfield an entrance? I guess I`m just asking for some astal directions.I didn`t see any roadsigns!
         Thanks

coral1
[/quote]



Hi coral1,
I'm still laughing.....no I've never seen any roadsigns either. It does seem that this is a common experience though doesn't it? How nice it is to see that others are experiencing the same things. When I use the phasing method to travel this seems to be the point where I actually begin acheiving my "written intent". Does this appear to be the same for any of you others? Adrian mentioned this was a common point to get "stuck" at. If a lot of people are experiencing this what a wonderful common ground to explore.
Donna

[boomyboomy]

Hi!

This phasing stuff all sounds very interesting! But why isn't it in Astral Dynamics?

A question for Donna (or anyone else who knows the answer...!)

You said
 

quote:At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).  

I have only just started the NEW system and it suggests not activating the main chakras for six months. But is it safe to feel the third eye (as you describe) without having to wait that long?

Did you spend any time on your secondary chakras before you started this technique?

Many thanks!

AJA

I'm a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I'm perfect!

[Adrian]

Greetings BoomyBoomy!

Astral Dynamics is about OBE's, and which are a significantly different thing altogether to phasing. The traditional OBE is what was originally taught by Monroe, where one exteriorises awareness - in his case by "reaching" out for the vibrations, and when the vibrations start, one employs an exit method, e.g. "rope" as described in Astral Dynamics. OBE creates an etheric body, into which a copy of the mind (not the original) is projected, and the journey starts from there - often as an etheric projection into the so called "real-time zone", which is an etheric reflection of the physical plane.

Phasing is a projection of the consciousness to the inner Astral spheres. As the original mind is always involved, there is a much greater chance of remembering the experience as well as beong able to reproduce it reliably. Monroe moved on from OBE to phasing, and accordingly produced his famous tapes and "focus levels", the most famous of which is "The Park" at F27, which is the reception centre for most decent people who have recently passed on to the inner Astral spheres. People that are less than decent, or were highly religious, will likely find themselves in a lower Astral sphere which is inhabited by people with the same characteristics, or in a "belief system territory" where they can, well, carry on believing until they realise that, after all, their beliefs are folly, and then they can move on.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Donna]

quote:Originally posted by boomyboomy:
Hi!

This phasing stuff all sounds very interesting! But why isn't it in Astral Dynamics?

A question for Donna (or anyone else who knows the answer...!)

You said
 

quote:At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).  

I have only just started the NEW system and it suggests not activating the main chakras for six months. But is it safe to feel the third eye (as you describe) without having to wait that long?

Did you spend any time on your secondary chakras before you started this technique?

Many thanks!

AJA

I'm a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I'm perfect!

Hi boomyboomy,
I had worked with energy raising for years ( since 1989)  before trying the phasing method.I had used this type of energy raising to heal a full-body paralysis, which the doctors had stated would be permanent. O'Boy were they surprised!!  Roberts' Method, I had discovered about a year before I began phasing, so I had surpassed the required minimums, I guess. Balancing the poles (energy centers) of the body is vitally important to success, I think.
Donna


 

[x_wolf19]

I can get to (from what I can tell) this trance state within a matter of minutes.  No joke, within about 5-10 minutes I am moving around at crazy speeds, or slow speeds, up and down, side to side, in and out, not really sure whats going on.  I see colors and swirling "light".  This is where i seem to get stuck though.  I always get music stuck in my head and can't shut it off, i think this is stopping me from going further.  I'll try some methods soon though to see if they help.  

to quickly get to the trance state though, i just "push" myself forward mentally and it begins!!
hope this may help someone

 

[alivie]

I have very limited success with achieving the trance state through controlled relaxation/meditation.
It seems I can guarantee the buzzing/vibrations just by following a precise sleep pattern with no effort to actually attain the trance state, it just happens.

1) I get a full nights sleep (8-10 hours)
2) Get up and live life for 5-6 hours
3) Go for a nap
4) Trying to sleep when my body doesn't require sleep takes between one and two hours before I start dozing off. (This may be a good point to try techniques to stay concious) In my cases I simply fell asleep and seemed to have a vivid (not lucid I don't think) dream, wake up again, doze off again, have another bizarre vivid dream. This happens 3 or 4 times and suddenly I awake with either just the vibrations OR a combination of heavy vibrations and sleep paralysis. Before I knew about OBE's this was terrifying, now its exciting because I know I can simply float up or 'roll over' to achieve the OBE.

I accept this is a lazy technique and I can only do it this lazy way when time permits ie some weekends.

I am trying to achieve an OBE using relaxation/meditation which would mean I could get to the vibrational state in 30 mins instead of 2-3 hours.

I also noticed that if the lazy method failed when napping, if I went to bed again at night, because of the nap, I would still be awake and there was always a good chance the vibrations would kick in.

Has anyone else had an OBE using this lazy technique?

In some ways it feels like a cheat mode to an OBE but I'm not complaining if it works!!