Achieving consciousness state for Astral phasing

[coral1]

Hi Alivie
        I`ve had similar experiences.They usually occur during the afternoon when I`m napping. If I wake up and fall back asleep several times it increases the vividness and occasionally the lucidity of my dreams. I`ve gotten some vibrations as well. I`ve had some success projecting to the astra
l from lucid dreams but haven`t had much control. I think phasing is the way to go. But if I have the time, the "lazy technique" is a great way to spend the afternoon!
    Happt Trails

coral1

[alivie]

Maybe we can read more about this lazy technique in Robert Bruce's forthcoming book...Couch Potato Astral Dynamics ...or CPAD as I like to call it!!!

 

[elasticca]

Donna, I find it interesting that you often experience the described "starscape" while phasing. I've experienced this many times myself. I haven't heard of phasing before I found this board a few months ago, but seemed to have used the phasing method quite by accident I guess many times in the past to induce what I considered to be lucid dreams at the time (I was attempting OOBE's) .

 Anyways, while lying in bed I would often expect to see the ceiling above me (astral sight?), but would fequently see a large expanse of stars in a night sky instead, as you seem to have described. It was usually at this point if I remember correctly, that I would "rise up", and find myself fully lucid in some other environment (astral planes, or dream environment?). I dismissed these experiences as lucid dreams, as I had previosuly had a full blown OOBE in the past, and these experiences seemed to differ significantly (finding myself in an otherworldly environment other than the RTZ, no exit sensations, etc..). After hearing about phasing on this board, I'm not sure anymore about my experiences. Any thoughts? Anyone?

Best,
Michael

 

[Bruce Moen]

Adrian,

>>  A proper level of consciousness or trance - mind awake/body asleep is a very important pre-cursor to Astral phasing. . .  This is a pre-requisite state that many find difficult to achieve, and so it would be great if you people could go on record with your favourite most effective methods.

  My work is intended to help folks learn to explore our afterlife through their own direct experience, firstly just to prove to themselves that such a place actually exists, and secondly to explore our human existence beyond physical reality in greater depth.

  What you describe as “Astral Phasing” is very similar to the technique I teach that I call Focused Attention.  If there is a difference it’s that simple relaxation replaces the need for a trance or mind awake/body asleep state.  While a trance state might be useful, as you say, many people find it difficult to achieve.  In developing Focused Attention as a system of afterlife exploration I sought to keep it as simple as possible to make it useful to the largest number of people as possible.  What I found is that all that’s necessary as a pre-requisite is that a person be able to sense some change in their level of relaxation during a slow, deep breathing exercise.  I wouldn’t argue that deeper relaxation, or even a trance state, might not be useful I just don’t find that it’s necessary.

  Once a person can feel that change in their level of relaxation an energy gathering exercise is used to sort of put one’s consciousness on the charger.  This exercise is a variation on the Monroe Institute’s ReBall exercise.
   
>> The "phasing sequence" and "Astral shift" through a portal, symbol, gateway etc. being another. <<

There are a couple of things in the system I teach that I recognize as similar to what you’re describing: placing intent; and the 3D Blackness.

  Placing intent acts like an autopilot.  By properly placing intent to explore any area of consciousness one’s focus of attention is automatically shifted there.  Once there all that’s left to do to explore that area of consciousness is to take a look around so to speak.  Placing intent is a process of first clearly and precisely stating your desired outcome, like creating an affirmation.  Then either before, during or after stating the affirmation you just cause yourself to re-experience the feeling of placing intent.  I use a Silly Little Finger Bending exercise to help folks learn to recognize that feeling.

  It’s too long a discussion to explain here in detail but suffice it to say that if one focuses attention on any feeling that occurs the instant before a finger bends, one can experience the feeling of placing intent.  For me properly placing intent means remember to the point of re-experiencing that feeling as the affirmation is stated.  Many will recognize the placing intent feeling quality as the one they feel if they’re stopped at a traffic light, first in line, knowing that very soon after the light turns green the first horn will honk behind them.  When the light turns green, the instant before any part of your body moves, a feeling like “GO” is experienced.  That one is very close to the feeling of placing intent.  

  The 3D Blackness is an area of consciousness that comes closest in my experience to a place of portals, gateways, or whatever term might used to describe them.  If one closes their eyes and relaxes, looking at the blackness before your eyes, you’d probably describe that blackness as 2D (two dimensional) or flat blackness.  There is another blackness, one that has depth, hence the term 3D (three dimensional) Blackness.  As one shifts their focus of attention to this 3D Blackness there is a noticeable shift in feeling quality.  In fact, once this shift has been experienced and that feeling quality identified a shift to 3D Blackness can be easily accomplished by just remembering that feeling quality to the point of re-experiencing it.  We can navigate to any area of consciousness using this technique, something I call the Hemi-Sync Model of Consciousness.  That model says that every area of consciousness has a specific feeling quality and if we remember that feeling quality to the point of re-experiencing it our focus of attention is automatically shifted there.  

  Once the shift has been made to the 3D Blackness, and either then or having previously placed an intent to explore some other area of consciousness, one just looks around within the 3D Blackness.  What you’re looking for is any area within this Blackness that is a discontinuity from the surrounding blackness.  It could be that you’ll see a small area that is darker or lighter than the surrounding area.  It might appear as a small, dark swirl or small area of activity within the 3D Blackness.  That is the ‘portal’ or opening to the pathway that leads to the area of consciousness you intend to explore.  Just by intending to begin moving toward such a ‘portal’ I usually find my focus of attention suddenly shifted there.

  I don’t mean to imply that one must be able to shift to the 3D Blackness in order to reach other areas of consciousness.  I consider this technique a little more advanced than is necessary for exploring our afterlife or areas of nonphysical reality beyond our afterlife.  But, many who practice the Focused Attention techniques I teach have stumbled into the 3D Blackness on their own and discovered its usefulness.

Bruce

[jilola]

Good to have you here. I've read a lot mof the stuff on the afterlife forum.

For me the problem is not so much getting to a certain state of consciousness I've experiencede before but rather getting to one I havenät experienced.
It's a little like going to a new city. You know how to get to the city and that there are place you can visit but you don't know how to get to those places.

In the physical domain I can always find my way back to a place I've been before and in the spiritual domain it seems to be the same. Only there is no map to help me to get to the new places.

After a lot of stumbling I've found my way to the 3D blackness place but the road from there is still shrouded. The previous intent doesn't work which is consistent with finding my way back to a place I've been before. Once I can state the exact place I want to go I can get there but before that it's the matter of stubmling in the dark and recording where I get.

2cents & L&L

jouni

 

[Windameir]

Hi and Welcome Bruce,
Glad to see you here and I hope you will return to continue to provide advice for all of us the "Gang" at Astral Pulse http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
Happy Holidays!

Happy Travels
Windameir

[clandestino]

Hi there Jouni, hows things ?

I'm a little behind you in terms of "progress"...Last week I finally saw the 3d blackness for the first time, although only for a few seconds.

Furthermore last night whilst doing hemi sync wave 1, I got to a point where I could shift my point of awareness around the room !! Needless to say, I'm quite excited by all of this, because it seems that the hours of practice are gradually giving results.

Anyway ! the point I wanted to make was simply that Bruce stated above :

"I don’t mean to imply that one must be able to shift to the 3D Blackness in order to reach other areas of consciousness. "

So clearly, the "cause and effect" progress that we are both making / expecting to make- ... is not a pre-requisite.

I think it is important that we realise that there are many ways to get "there"... I have been limiting myself in some ways to a "route" that I should follow, dictated by the experiences of others.
cheers !
Mark

 

[jilola]

Clandestino: On an intellectual level I believe that we are already there, in the astral I mean. But since I can't  convince my subconscious oif this I need to stumble around until I get where I want to go and find out it's where I left.
The route that we, I at least,  take is only a tool to give the subconscious a sense of achievement and thus a permission to do our bidding, ie. open the door to the desired state of conscousness. It doesn't have to follow cause and effect, actually it doesn't imho. Sometimes I get the feeling that themore I experiment and work at the problem the further form the goal I get, as if I started working my way from the goal to my normal state.

Oh, that flitting your awareness around the room sounded neat. I'll see if I can do the same http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

2cents & L&L

joun

 

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by elasticca:
 Anyways, while lying in bed I would often expect to see the ceiling above me (astral sight?), but would fequently see a large expanse of stars in a night sky instead, as you seem to have described. It was usually at this point if I remember correctly, that I would "rise up", and find myself fully lucid in some other environment (astral planes, or dream environment?). I dismissed these experiences as lucid dreams, as I had previosuly had a full blown OOBE in the past, and these experiences seemed to differ significantly (finding myself in an otherworldly environment other than the RTZ, no exit sensations, etc..). After hearing about phasing on this board, I'm not sure anymore about my experiences. Any thoughts? Anyone?

Best,
Michael

The starscape effect generally occurs as part of the Phasing process. It is also common to see whirling shapes or clouds of colour, and such like. Basically, you switch from seeing only the 2-dimensional blackness at the back of your eyelids... to having a feeling of moving into a 3 dimensional blackness, which is often punctuated by lots of little yellow lights in the distance (well, with me they are bright yellow).

If you progress further you typically feel a kind of mental shift wherupon you find yourself within the Astral someplace. Which is what happened to you. But if you slow that shift down, you find it is possible to travel through the blackness and go right up to the lights, for example. Or you can have a root around and see if you can come across what are commonly called Astral Plane Entrance Structures of the kind R.Bruce printed on the back of AD.

Yours,
Frank




 

[elasticca]

quote:Originally posted by Frank:

quote:Originally posted by elasticca:
 Anyways, while lying in bed I would often expect to see the ceiling above me (astral sight?), but would fequently see a large expanse of stars in a night sky instead, as you seem to have described. It was usually at this point if I remember correctly, that I would "rise up", and find myself fully lucid in some other environment (astral planes, or dream environment?). I dismissed these experiences as lucid dreams, as I had previosuly had a full blown OOBE in the past, and these experiences seemed to differ significantly (finding myself in an otherworldly environment other than the RTZ, no exit sensations, etc..). After hearing about phasing on this board, I'm not sure anymore about my experiences. Any thoughts? Anyone?

Best,
Michael

The starscape effect generally occurs as part of the Phasing process. It is also common to see whirling shapes or clouds of colour, and such like. Basically, you switch from seeing only the 2-dimensional blackness at the back of your eyelids... to having a feeling of moving into a 3 dimensional blackness, which is often punctuated by lots of little yellow lights in the distance (well, with me they are bright yellow).

If you progress further you typically feel a kind of mental shift wherupon you find yourself within the Astral someplace. Which is what happened to you. But if you slow that shift down, you find it is possible to travel through the blackness and go right up to the lights, for example. Or you can have a root around and see if you can come across what are commonly called Astral Plane Entrance Structures of the kind R.Bruce printed on the back of AD.

Yours,
Frank




 

Thanks for the response Frank. I appreciate the feedback. Your description of this "3D blackness" mirrored my own experience last night. In an attempt at an OBE last night I envisioned a friend that I wanted to visit very strongly in my mind. Knowing that she would likeley be asleep at the time, I pictured her lying in bed. The "blackness" indeed took on a 3D effect, almost as if I were peering into a window of a darkened room of sorts. Then a strange thing happened which I wasn't epecting at all. All of a sudden what looked like a 3d "picture" of sorts came quickly into my field of view (it appeared to move towards me from the distance, quickly growing larger as it approached). In this "picture" I clearly saw the figure of a female lying in bed in what appeared to be my friends bedroom. Then a moment later the image faded, and the experience was over.

I never shifted, or phased into the location, but felt as if I could have. Perhaps this was merely clairvoyance, or a remote viewing episode. I've never experienced either before. I'm gonna try again tonight

-Michael


 

[amcturbo]

Hi Adrian,
Yesterday, I posted on this in the OBE Experiences forum ... I included my *method* and the results.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=2843

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

[PeacefulWarrior]

Alivie-

THat's  wonderful lifestyle that allows you to get up for 5-6 hours and then take a leisurely nap...unfortunately most of us have to work.  Anyway, what kind of success have you had getting into the trance state with this routine?


fides quaerens intellectum

[Squeek]

Well, these are all good suggestions, but I still have a simple, minor problem.  Ya see, no matter how hard I try, I always seem to have a song in my head.  The only time I think I DONT have a song playing up there is when i first wake up.  And at that point im just not ready to conentrate on ANYTHING!  Well...any tips? I've had 2 from another post that got cleared in that big sweep that happened a while back.

~~~
There is no truth in lies,

but often there are lies in truth
~~~

[Tisha]

I think I phased this morning.  I'm not sure.  I'll try to describe it, and then you experienced people tell me if I'm posting in the right place:

It started out like dreams moving through dreams, you know, the typical unaware dream thing.  Then, after an emotional burst and commitment to "leave" a dreamscape I found myself aware in a bedroom on the second floor of a house.  Quiet, completely tidy, almost monastic, with a window looking out over a pretty landscape.  (Definitely "lucid dream" material, I hear you thinking . . . ok now it gets weird)

So, I'm standing there, thinking, okay, I'm in this room, and then all of a sudden the view in front of my eyes  morphs into me in bed, and it is morning.  Kind of like a special effect in a movie.  

It was totally different than "waking up" - -   In fact, if I were to get technical, I haven't "woken up" yet!  I'm still in my dream!

So here I am typing on Astral Pulse and munching on my 6th chocolate of the day.  Christmas party went off without a hitch.  It all SEEMS normal - - hey, you all out there?

One thing I noticed during the shift was something akin to electrical "static," sort of like what you hear after you turn off the TV and run your hand over the screen.  In fact, more than anything else I've experienced, it felt the way I used to feel coming back from my OBE's - - - except with my OBEs I heard the static but felt as though I were emerging from under water (though I could always breathe).

OK, is this phasing?  I'm awfully curious.


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Frank]

Tisha: It sounds from what you say you came awake within a lucid dream and found yourself within the Astral someplace. Also, the experience at the end I think is you having a more controlled return.

Normally, in the beginning, the return phase tends to be executed rather hurredly, more as a means of "escape" than anything.  But as the return sequence gets more controlled it does get to seem a lot like you describe. In that you first tend to see an image of you within the Physical, and it does feel a lot like you've come awake. But the confusing thing is, at the same time you know you are still within something of an Astral experience... and then you come awake in the Physical proper.

Yours,
Frank