Achieving consciousness state for Astral phasing

[Adrian]

Greetings Hypnotist,

Thank you very much indeed for this excellent post on hypnosis.

One question however, for those that cannot be hypnotised by someone else, I would suggest most, can this be modified for self hypnosis?

With best regards,

Adrian.

[dion]

Hi people,
just a simple question for Frank if that is ok.

Frank said:
You don’t actually need the Wave-1 CD either. You can formulate a mental rundown to some relaxing music, or create something using Brainwave Generator, or use whatever suits you. All I would advise is for you to create something of around 30 to 45 minutes duration which you are basically happy with then stick with it. In other words, don’t make it too short, or too long, and no chopping and changing.

Would i be correct in thinking that a mental rundown is the relaxation process one uses to relax and still the mind and body while entering the trance state? and if so, any pointers on this would be greatfully received.
yours,
Dion.

[Frank]

The mental rundown is used as a kind of practice session, after which the person tries for real. It serves the purpose of getting a person into the habit of focussing their attention within themselves.

Problem is, when someone is a complete beginner, it is difficult for them to spark the process off. People try and "look within" and see nothing. In the event they just get disheartened thinking they can't do it. Which is why I suggest for people to first create an imaginary scenario. Then, after a while, situations will come about where you snap out of it thinking, "Hang on a minute, that wasn't on my script!"

Slowly but surely, a person will get used to these unexpected situations so they will be able to just passively observe them. At this point, a person crosses the bridge between just imagining and shifting their focus of attention for real.

Myself, I never think in terms of relaxing the physical body, or stilling the mind, or entering a kind of trance-state. I think all that is more to do with meditation rather than Astral projection. I think of it more in terms of mental focus.

When you focus your attention within yourself you automatically lose contact with your physical body. When you focus on a specific mental rundown, then you automatically drop all the day-to-day mental tittle-tattle that people can become preoccupied with. And as I've mentioned before a number of times, I cannot understand what people mean by "trance state".

I'm not knocking these concepts. The notion of entering a "trance state" or doing specific physical relaxation exercises, and so forth, may well work for some people. But with me, like I say, it all boils down to where you focus your attention.

Yours,
Frank

[RedDragon]

i close my eyes and wach the imgs pass,and not think about any think but my breathing hase any one used that method  before

[Fyrenze]

I'm not sure if THIS part has come up before, is there a website anywhere that talks about phasing a bit? Like Frank says, I've been searching my way through the forums and the info I've found is invaluable but it takes more time than I usually have to refer to.

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[Adrian]

Greetings Fyrenze,

quote:Originally posted by Fyrenze

I'm not sure if THIS part has come up before, is there a website anywhere that talks about phasing a bit? Like Frank says, I've been searching my way through the forums and the info I've found is invaluable but it takes more time than I usually have to refer to.

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I doubt whether you will find a website on phasing as such, most sites tend to focus on OBE which is an entirely different thing.

There is a document in the file library which summarises the TMI phasing process. You might also want to take a look at Bruce Moen's website which is a sort of phasing which he calls "afterlife exploration". It seems to be very effective for people to bring back their own evidence of the afterlife, but it is not full phasing as such and isn't intended to be. The principle is identical however, a sequence of imagery leading into the Astral itself. The site is:

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Osiris]

Greetings,

Here is a quote from one of the Adrian posts  

quote:The RTZ is actually an etheric projection rather than a full Astral projection, and is accordingly really a transient state between physical and Astral. Phasing is a projection of consciousness directly to the Astral via a series on intermediate states of consciousness, none of which appear to involve the etheric state.

Intermediate states/focuses as I see it, is a usage of your imaginery in a structured way to shift your consciousness from the physical body to astral. That`s why the method is called phasing.

Yours,

Osiris.

[quebec]

Hello Adrian,
Hello Frank (if your back),

I know Adrian that you have followed closely this post and Frank's invaluable comments. I'm having a problem with the raising of eyes, and I would apreciate having your opinion on this.

I'm practicing this approach and two days ago saw the blackness and felt a spinning sensation, and felt very close but my excitement got the better of me and I came back to C.1.

What is bothering me is the raising of eyes upward and at the same time looking through the "third eye". Letting your consciousness rise, looking through the third eye but getting out through the crow chakra...Could you help me sort out all of this, or Frank if you're back ?

Frank wrote:   ..."But now I've realized that there is this Crown Chakra that sets the process off.""" (posted 7th april 2002)

Do you look at the brow or Crown ? The raising of consciousness also gives me difficulties in understanding what is meant. Does it come by itself, or does the raising of the eyes provoques it

Couldn't find answers reading the posts. Hope you can help me sort all of this out, or put the process in a sequence.

[Leviiathan]

Dear experts:

0) A prologue note: Tactile Imaging is too aggressive, but drifting is too ineffective. Bad chemistry. Too much chemistry destroys the reaction, while too little prevents any reaction from happening. I'm still reaching a comfortable medium in between the two.

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ORIGINALLY WHERE I STARTED
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1) My appologies. I have not reviewed all the pages. But I a question . . .

2) . . . When I attempted some phasing practice last night, all my attention was drawn into the region of my brow chakra. Learning is a "sad" (figuratively) and slow process.

3) By drifting away, I speak of just letting the body relax. Staring ahead with your eyes closed is one thing, but staring out as if you were looking into the darkness with your brow is another. I'll list some things. You can interpret and give me insight.

    a) Lay down, get mind set, hold blank state. Body begins to relax. My attention is spread out over my body.
    b) Stare ahead, through Brow Chakra.

OBSTACLES: trying to keep my focus centered there. There's a challenging transition between "spread-out" awareness and having it centered in one place. I'm getting better, as you may notice, but my mind wants to pay attention to the rest of my body (i.e. spread itself out)

    c) Focus becomes exceedingly centered at Brow Chakra
    d) The black space seems to gain a sense of depth. Nothing's changed. I still haven't left the bed. I'm not outside of my body. I don't percieve myself--or in retrospect--to be close to "projecting"

NOTE: I'm confused with something. I find it hard to believe that I'm using astral sight, but at this point, I gain the sensation of spherical vision. If it is astral related, it is not sight. It's like sight, but I think it is more related to sensation, feeling, empathy -- sensing space. The confusion I'm experiencing causes me to misinterpret this sensation as sight-related, even though I am seeing nothing.

One could do this naturally when awake and not in a trance-like state. The difference, however, is clarity. It feels more natural in the above circumstances, more real, more clarified. It is like having it . . . versus trying to imagine, feel, or artifice the experience (i.e. like artificing pictures in your mind . . . versus actually seeing them when in a trance, or in a dream). When artificing sensations, there is a great feeling of limitation, but in trance, it feels like there is no limitation. My head is there, but it is like it isn't. Again, at this point, I am still in my body. I am still aware of my head. I am still in the 1st person mind-set. Symptoms have simply begun to present themselves.

    e)WOOSH! All my attention is pulled right to my brow. I can literally say that I have, awaringly, unwillingly lost my spread out focus. Interesting things happen (Note: below). I've lost awareness of a lot of my body. It's hard to feel most of myself. I can no longer SENSE the shape of my body (I can some of it -- random parts and junk) nor can I sense any area to the sides of my head. The interesting thing is that I know that I cannot sense it, while being aware that I have lost that focus.

NOTE: I know this. But since my focus is usually spread-out and not compressed, achieving this state is somewhat of a "discpline" challenge.

    f) I see something. It's like light, but not very bright. Faded, really. It's hard to even make it out. It moves like ripples in a pond. These "waves" oscillate inward from the side and are replaced by other ripples. I notice three or four. They move from bottom upward. They move from side inward. They curve in and disappear. They follow weird patterns. Silky waves.

    g) I remember something I read and figure this is my que, a doorway, to get deeper. I remember people mentioning that they get pulled in to a tunnel. I don't know how to focus in, draw my focus in, or get deeper. It seems hard and impossible

    h) I lose focus because I know my attention is spreading. In retrospect, I surmise that this came from a sudden spur of interest to get somewhere. Maybe a little excitement. The last I remember is being flustered by hypnogogic imagery and starting to black out into sleep. I eventually get up, but it's 45 min. after I started.

    i) Upon opening my eyes and getting up, I feel like a different person. My eyes are heavy. My body is tired. It feels like I'm just getting up. Interesting, because moments ago I felt deeply relax, but not half-asleep.


Insight on all aspects would be great. Also, how am I doing, and how do I get moving? =(

Thanks

[Aries]

Leviiathan I am having a similar problem, I believe I can get into the 3d darkness but im kind of stuck there... can anyone give me a pointer to help me find my doorway and enter it?? im not sure how i would actually enter it...

[Nagual]

I think it's as "simple" as holding the thought of where you wanna go in your mind, and only that thought...  Of course, it's not that simple...
You could also try to spin, to see your hands, to create an object...  Experiment! [|)]
Try to focus on things that you know by heart; that you saw many times, like your house/school/office/...
Try to say "I want to see"...  If nothing happens, try to yell it...
Ask for help.
It all comes down to intent.  You have to intend it with all your will power...

Good luck!

[Pete]

So what happend with the idea of setting up a locale?

I was away from these forums for awhile and am getting caught up now. I've been busy phasing and renovating a house. I'm amazed at how much time has passed.

Anyway, was a locale established and did people meet there?

Pete

[Nick]

There is an entire Astral locale forum set up with sub forums as well:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=43

[funinfloating111]

WOW you mean its good to have a song stuck in my head? thats GREAT news lol, i too NEVER have a moment without a song playing in my head. a song will always play in the backround of my thinking, whether im meditating, taking a test, or anything else. sorry for posting so late but i was just so enthuzed!

[Adrian]

Greetings everyone,

I am locking this topic in place as a core topic in our quest for fine tuning Astral phasing - which is assuming more importance by the day.

A proper level of consciousness or trance - mind awake/body asleep is a very important pre-cursor to Astral phasing. The "phasing sequence" and "Astral shift" through a portal, symbol, gateway etc. being another.

This is a pre-requisite state that many find difficult to achieve, and so it would be great if you people could go on record with your favourite most effective methods.

Thank you.

With best regards,

Adrian.