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« on: July 21, 2002, 15:40:48 » |
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It is true that I am still learning to do astral projection, but I have had lucid dreams. Some have even involved sex and I can tell you that compared to astral sex it is physical sex which is blunt and meaningless. Of course, this could be because of a lack of effort and imagination on my part, but it does not seem to be just my experience. It is true physical intimacy rather than true astral intimacy of which I have my doubts.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2002, 16:07:17 » |
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There is a book by DJ Conway called Astral Love. There are also a few other books around about the subject of astral love as well as explaining the subject of having a pagan God or Goddess as a lover.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2002, 16:10:55 » |
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There is a similar practice in Vajrayana Buddhism, but we try not to emphasize it. Buddhist Tantra is frequently confused with mindless sex and drinking and indulgence. When sex is taken up as a practice in Vajrayana Buddhism, it is only after decades of mind training.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2002, 15:58:50 » |
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You don't have to be able to astral project to have an astral lover. The love your astral lover will give you is exceptionally strong. A lot deeper than love felt in a relationship between to people in physical bodies.
Another book. More advanced.
Sexual Alchemy by Donald Tyson
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2002, 23:29:42 » |
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Hmm, if one doesn't have to be able to astral project, how does he/she find the 'lover' then? How well can they communicate without astral projecion? Just a very interesting concept, romantic person as I am
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Tom
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2002, 01:10:09 » |
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Why psychic self defense for a post about sex? Why not OBE experiences or OBE discussions?
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2002, 01:11:31 » |
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I have yet to have astral sex, persay. I do, however, find myself astrally feeling up women when I am out though. I usually only do this when I know the experience is about to end, because doing so ALWAYS gets me worked up and I end up returning to the physical soon afterwards! I know, I'm naughty. The better I get at OBE's, the more I can control this....but I'm surprised at how strong the sexual attraction is with me when you have absolutely no inhibitions. ::evil smile:: Keep smiling, Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor http://MyJokeMail.com
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2002, 08:06:32 » |
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Hmm, if one doesn't have to be able to astral project, how does he/she find the 'lover' then? How well can they communicate without astral projecion? Just a very interesting concept, romantic person as I am  First of all you need to be opened to spirits, and you need to know the difference between a good spirit and an evil spirit. The love you feel for your astral lover will open you to your lover, so you should be able to hear your astral lover speaking to you. You should feel your astral lover around you when you are opened. There are techniques for getting an astral lover if you can't project. These techniques are in DJ Conways book: Astral Love. Sexual Alchemy by Donald Tyson I mention these books because it woul take up too much space to explain these techniques. The God Zeus came to Earth and had many female lovers. Some who even bore him children. Just read those books to understand more about this.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2002, 01:26:28 » |
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Thank you to all who posted in this thread. Below I have written responses to them:
QBall's 1st Post
You are correct, you don't have to astral projection to have astral sex. You are also correct that astral sex is far more intense than physical sex, and the love felt between two astral partners can be of astounding magnitude. My own personal humble opinion is that two astral people who are very spiritually inclined and who are also intense people will naturally magnify everything tenfold.
Thanks for the book reference. I hope to get it soon. I am sooo overloaded with the writing of my own book and doing research for it I do not have much time to read.
QBall's 2nd Post
You are correct that you have to be "open" to a certain degree to be able to receive astral affections. This is where a person's psychic abilities comes into play. I'm not speaking necessarily as an expert, but rather from personal experience.
LLmariL
How does one find an astral lover? Much like one would do normally. You might run into someone at a party, or meet someone on a board/list/group/singles group, or meet someone through a friend. How well can they communicate? That depends entirely upon the psychic abilities of both parties involved.
Tom
Why did I post astral sex in this "Psychic Self Defense" thread? Because I need to learn self defense tricks that's why. I do not wish to go into too much detail about my current situation just yet. I wanted to first find out if anyone on this forum has had astral sex, so that they'd know what I'm talking about.
Jeff Mash
Naughty boy Mr. Mash. That evil smile gave me a chuckle for some reason, though. You haven't had astral sex yet, but you get worked up giving it. Wait until you receive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ah man, get ready for some mind-boggling intensity.
Now take a look at this interesting experiment I conducted not long ago: I gave a male friend of mine an astral "hug". This male friend is not psychic and he did not "receive" my hug. The next day I gave a female friend of mine an astral hug, and she "received" it just fine! This female friend of mine though is psychic, so it appears that both parties have to be psychic to give and receive astral affections and other things.... And Jeff, I'm wondering if those women you "touch" can feel your fingers in there... Do you see any reactions???
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2002, 19:52:22 » |
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I think it was Frank, myself and a few others who conversed briefly about astral "sex" in a thread he started called "Training Ground" or something. I think it's valid to bring up the who point about how, at least initially, there are barriers set up to "trap" beginners from ascending too high. One of these obstacles is ones sensual urges. Many individuals find difficulty ascending to the realms they desire to visit because they can't control their urges (ie. Tom)... RObert Monroe, aka "Old Man OBE" wrote about this exact thing in his thrid book, Far Journeys. Anyway, I am interested to hear more from Clarissa (what are you writing my dear?  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_question.gif" border=0>) -D fides quaerens intellectum
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We shall not cease from our exploration, and at the end of all our exploring, we shall arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Elliot --------------- fides quaerens intellectum
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2002, 21:18:05 » |
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quote: Originally posted by Clarissa: Naughty boy Mr. Mash. That evil smile gave me a chuckle for some reason, though. You haven't had astral sex yet, but you get worked up giving it. Wait until you receive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ah man, get ready for some mind-boggling intensity.
Yeah, that's what I hear! Well, if it happens, it happens. If not, I usually think of other things to do while I am out...like extending the experience as long as possible. I'm not sure if any of you do this here on this board, but we should pair up with people and see if we can target them. An old astral friend of mine did that with me, and although I wasn't able to get out to see her, she came to me and verified what my room (at the time) looked like. quote: Originally posted by Clarissa: Now take a look at this interesting experiment I conducted not long ago: I gave a male friend of mine an astral "hug". This male friend is not psychic and he did not "receive" my hug. The next day I gave a female friend of mine an astral hug, and she "received" it just fine! This female friend of mine though is psychic, so it appears that both parties have to be psychic to give and receive astral affections and other things.... And Jeff, I'm wondering if those women you "touch" can feel your fingers in there... Do you see any reactions???
::smiles boyishly:: Let me just clarify, for the record, that I don't feel up all these women when I am out! It happens every now and then, and always as the experience is ending. However, I can tell you one thing. They are usually surprised (as in, "Ooohhhhh what's this?") or they enjoy it. I have yet to have someone astrally kick me in the balls, if you know what I'm saying! Keep smiling, Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor http://MyJokeMail.com
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2002, 04:55:54 » |
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D I conducted a search on the forum for "Training Ground" but it did not return any results. Any suggestions? If you find it, could you email it to me via the forum's private mail? Thanks. I look forward to reading it. I am writing a book about a fascinating past life I had in 1912. I absolutely LOVE doing the research for it, and as a result I am thinking about becoming a paid researcher. Got myself some books on researching and I'm quite astounded at what I've learned so far. I've got one book on researching genealogy but that doesn't interest me as much as Librarian Research, specifically Competitive Intelligence Research. Okay, have I bored anyone yet? << I think it's valid to bring up the who point about how, at least initially, there are barriers set up to "trap" beginners from ascending too high. Many individuals find difficulty ascending to the realms they desire to visit because they can't control their urges (ie. Tom)..>> I am confused, could you explain this a bit more?  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_dead.gif" border=0> Mr. Mash < >
Some people are gifted that way. They're lucky. I've always wanted to do that, and am frustrated that I can't.
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What do you mean, "target them"?
<<-::smiles boyishly:: Let me just clarify, for the record, that I don't feel up all these women when I am out! It happens every now and then, and always as the experience is ending.>>
It happens every now and then? Somehow I got the impression that it happens every time you're out and about doing errands or something.
Now what do you mean when you say "as the experience is ending?"
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Now that sounds like a good astral self-defense mechanism I could use!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!! http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2002, 08:03:31 » |
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As a married man, i wonder if astral sex would be considered cheating. my guess would be YES. I think that wanting to cheat is enough.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2002, 08:11:42 » |
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I knew a married woman who had numerous astral lovers, and she told me it's not cheating because your astral lover is in a different dimension. When a person is on the astral that person can have as many astral lovers as he or she wants.
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2002, 12:35:21 » |
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Marriage is until death, right? William Buhlman says that even if you only get two feet from your body you are as dead as you will ever be.
Yes, I know: Robert Bruce explains things a bit differently.
I have not really decided if sex on the astral and higher planes is wrong for people in established relationships on the physical plane. It would be clearer if the established relationships on the physical would be better about even acknowledging nonphysical existence. It is not enough just to say that we have souls waiting for us until we die.
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