Astral Sex

[astralmaster]

I don’t know. I think that you are who you are. Inside and out. Meaning, if I’m going to cheat on my wife in the astral, why not in the physical? Nobody said that occurrences in the astral don’t count, or have no significance.

David

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Clarissa:
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What do you mean, "target them"?

In other words, someone to focus on.  Many times, when I try to OBE, I lose focus and simply fall asleep.  If I knew that someone else at that exact same time was trying to OBE and focusing on me, then it might help to keep your mind on track and not let it slip away.

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<<-::smiles boyishly:: Let me just clarify, for the record, that I don't feel up all these women when I am out! It happens every now and then, and always as the experience is ending.>>

It happens every now and then?  Somehow I got the impression that it happens every time you're out and about doing errands or something.

Now what do you mean when you say "as the experience is ending?"

By that, I mean that when I'm out, I usually start to feel myself losing control.  This happens if I allow myself to get too excited from being out of my body, or if I move too fast.  Once I start to feel these things, I know that I'm most likely going to end the experience soon and return.

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Now that sounds like a good astral self-defense mechanism I could use!!!!!!  Thanks!!!!!!http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

Sure thang!  Glad I could help in your astral karate lesson for the day.  Speaking of which, check out the latest video I published on my website today: http://MyJokeMail.com/videos/NeverTrustAWoman.htm


 
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Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor
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[PeacefulWarrior]

The thread is entitled:
"Prerequisites for obe-ing"

I recommend reading that to get a better idea of what I was talking about.
-Dan

fides quaerens intellectum

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Interesting topic. I think it really depends on whether you feel it is wrong or not to have astral sex if you are married. If you think it is wrong then it is wrong to you, but if you do not feel it is wrong then it is not wrong. Jesus said that there is no marriage in heaven. To me this clearly says that marriage is limited to the physical plane. "Til death do we part" also clearly shows that marriage is not extended to other realms. So to me astral sex is fine reguardless of physical plane status. As long as you fullfill your physical plane commitments then all should be fine. The astral is limitless, so why limit yourself when you are there?

 

[Clarissa]

David

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Funny you should mention this because I have been pondering this for the past few days and came to a conclusion:  I do consider having astral sex with another person while married a form of cheating.  It may not be sex in the physical world, but it is having sexual entertainment with someone other than your spouse.

I put myself in the other person's position.  If I was married and my husband was enjoying himself with another woman in the astral world, I would not like it.  No, I would have to say I would not like it.  So again, I do consider astral sex a form of cheating.
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QBall

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My own personal humble opinion is that this woman is justifying her actions.  You could ask her, "Would she like it if her husband was enjoying himself with another woman without HER?"  Let's see what her answer is.
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AstralMaster

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I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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PeacefulWarrior

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 Thanks, I shall take that one up.
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FallnAngel

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In my humble opinion marriage and astral sex are not limited to the physical plane.  Let's say a man and a woman marry, they are both psychic and can have astral sex together.  If one of the spouses takes a business trip alone, the two people can enjoy astral sex together while they are apart.  It's so funny because no one else in the family will ever know they can have sex while apart!!!!  God I love it!  Secrets, secrets!

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Let me ask you something.  Would you mind if your wife had sexual fun with another man, even though it takes place in the third dimension?
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Jeff Mash

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Okay I understand what you're saying here just a little bit.  Are you talking about OBEing when you have astral sex?  I would say that I personally do not leave my body when I am having astral sex.  But there are times when he wants sex right when I get in bed at night, and sometimes I fall asleep during sex because I am so tired.  So focusing in on someone for me, has nothing to do with it.  It depends on how tired I am or how awake I am.  Gosh I hope that's what you mean, else I've just embarrassed myself.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_blush.gif" border=0>

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That sounds kinda sad, that you have to end such a nice experience.  I mean I think it's great that you can leave your body at will, and get excited over it!

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I would only use it in an extreme emergency, ya know.

Clarissa

 

[James S]

I generally try to remain open minded and respect that other peoples opinions are just that - opinions, but there have been a few bits of text in this post which really just don't seem right, and I apologise in advance to any that might take offence for the following.

Clarissa -
You go girl!! I so agree with you.
If you don't like the idea of your partner seeking sexual pleasures elswhere, no matter what form it takes, respect your partner and don't do it yourself!


Fallnangel77 -
Please be careful of using small portions of the Bible as justification for your actions. What you end up doing is taking it out of context with the rest of the section. Some of the worst atrocities through history have been justified by small verses from the Bible. "in heaven there is no marriage"... the context here is that when we reach heaven, we have died. We have relinquished our physical form and all earthly ties, and out astral bodies move on into the next stage on our evolution. This verse has nothing to do with permitting astral sex!

Jeff -
Good luck running you're website, I'm sure it's not an easy job, but is this really the right forum to be advertising it in??

No matter if you're in physical form or astral, as long as you are still connected to your body it is still you, your conciousness, your feelings, your vows that you made to your partner. If neither you or your partner mind the other engaging in extramarital sex, go for it - at least no-ones going to cop a paternity suite. But if you think for one minute that your partner would be at all upset by it don't do it! This is not something subject to peoples opinions. Not when somebody you love could end up very badly hurt emotionally by your actions.



James S
(Fate amenable to change)

[WalkerInTheWoods]

James S,
I agree with you that verses have been used out of context a lot and can be damaging to their original intent. Now I have not studied the Christian Bible in many years, so if I am wrong forgive me, but this seems very clear and straight forward. But then again it may not be. The intent could well have been that this applies after death. But then again astral projection does not seem to be common knowledge or practice to the average person during this time. In all honesty I do not want to use Jesus or the Christian Bible to back up my beliefs. I was merely using the verse to show that marriage on the physical plane does not continue into the next. This is not saying that love does not continue on, because I think that if we continue on then our love for others certainly will too. Likewise if your loved one does not feel that astral sex with another is right, then if you do love her/him you would not do it. But what if your loved one does not think that astral project and such is real? Then in their eyes is it cheating? If it is not to them then should you not do it?

I think what we should look at when saying if this is right or wrong would be to see the intent. Is it done out of lust or love? One can lead to problems while the other can be constructive.

 

[astralmaster]

Hi all,
IMO Just a little pointer: The question is not weather astral sex is allowed. the question is if it is ethically right (for married people, of course)

David

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Actually I think the original question was just if anyone had any experience with astral sex and had nothing to do with right, wrong, being allowed, or any kind of ethics or morality. So let me concede so we do not let this issue of right or wrong take this topic somewhere nasty. Believe what you wish to believe.

As for experience I have not had astral sex when I have projected. I have had a few rather conscious dreams in which what I would call astral sex took place. Astral sex is much different than physical sex in that it is much more meaningful. Real might be a good word to use though I do not think one would understand that has not experienced it.  It also feels more like energy sharing that physical sex. After all in the astral we do not have physical bodies so how would you have physical sex?


"Let me ask you something. Would you mind if your wife had sexual fun with another man, even though it takes place in the third dimension?"

If I were married, I would not want my wife having sex with another man on the physical plane. As for on the astral, I have sat here and tried to come up with an honest answer. The answer seems to keep being that it would not bother me, depending on the situation. Now maybe if I were married I would feel differently I am not sure, but because of my current emotional state my answer seems to be that it would not bother me as long as it did not effect our relationship. Actually what is throwing my sense of reasoning off right now is the idea of having a mate that would astral project. The idea has not really occured to me, probably because I rarely meet anyone in real life that is knowledgable about such ideas. Maybe after it has sunk in I can better answer the question, though with this thought I cannot seem to dwell on the question but keep thinking of the possibilities of astral traveling with someone.

 

[James S]

Hi again,

Fallnangel77, I was worried that I might have ticked you off. thanks for being cool and understanding. After looking more into the words of Jesus you quoted, I think I might be out of context here as well. I believe Jesus was being pestered by pharisees on points of law. His comment was basically to shut them up by pointing out that in heaven, our earlthly laws and regulations don't mean anything. So legally (I use that term losely), your point of view is probably correct.

Astralmaster is right, this is not about wether or not astral sex is permissible, but if its ethical. That's entirely up to the individual. I only got upset at the thought of people doing the wrong thing by their partners, but if they are cool with it, well....

One interesting point of view though came from my wife on this topic - If you could leave your body, do whatever you wanted (almost), and go wherever you wanted, who would want to waste their time going around having sex?
We're all connected to the worlds leading resource in virtual sex.

When I do finally get out there in my astral body, there are places from my dreams, possibly from a long distant past that I often get brief visions of, of increadible beauty that I must see. It has been noted by RB and other authors on the subjet - astral sex will really hold you back.

James S
(Fate amenable to change)

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I think you are right, or your wife, in that when projecting astral sex is most likely pretty far from your mind. I have been looking at just the issue of astral sex and not the bigger picture. Standing back looking at it things look a little differently. I do not know about others but every time I have been out of body, sex does not enter my mind, hence why I have not had it except in a lucid dream state. A point I start to hit on in my other post is the intent of your astral sex. From the other posts it sounds like the concern is of the projector going to the astral most of the time for a sexual experience. Now you can have your own opinion but it would really not be good for someone to do this. Such a thing would go beyond marital issues of right and wrong and more into personality and addiction issues, I would think. It would be no different than someone going out every night just to "get laid". But the bigger problem is that someone with these emotions and intent would not be moving to higher astral realms but to the lower ones where others of such addictions go. This would create a blinding cycle that would keep one from advancing. Frank has posted about witnessing such cycles in his travels, where people get caught up in one thing and continue "living" through it again and again because they will not look past it and see the truth. So one that is like this does present a call for concern.

On the brighter side, those that do not get caught up in the act of sex but experience the higher plane act can find this a very rewarding experience. Try to understand that astral sex is not like physical sex. If you are in form in the astral it can appear as such, but feel different. The astral is less dense, more energy like, and more emotional. Sex on the astral plane will be as such too. It will be more like sharing energy, more emotional, and less "physical" (not sure of a good word to use here). So astral sex with your spouse can be a very constructive, very bonding experience. Astral sex with someone you care a great deal about will be very rewarding. If you just walked up to someone and have sex with him or her, though the experience might be pretty darn good, it could never be as good as with someone you share a deep emotional bond. This is pretty much truth on any plane. So regardless of right, wrong, or ethics, why do it with just anyone when it can be so constructive and fulfilling with someone you love?


 

[Qball]

The humans who are currently living in the astral dimension can have one astral lover or a person can have fifty or more astral lovers, so as far as I can tell from what my astral lovers have told me there is no right or wrong in the astral as far as sex is concerned. They say each lover is equally adored.
You will only get an astral lover if you are opened to this concept.

[Clarissa]

Dear Members,

When I have astral sex I am not astral projected.  One does not have to leave his body to have astral sex.  It is a hard thing for me to explain, well, the 3rd dimension itself is a difficult thing to explain, at least for me it is, so I won't even try.

Thanks to this thread, I have realized that having astral sex with a married man is wrong.  Even if the man's wife does not believe in astral or anything spiritual, it is wrong for ME to have astral sex with the husband.

My problem has not been solved yet, but is well on its way to being solved, hopefully to a good ending.

FallnAngel says it all when he says that astral sex is NOT the same as physical sex.  The best I can describe the difference is that yes physical sex is an exchange of energy, but on a very very tiny scale compared to astral sex.  My analogy would be to take a scale and put one banana on one scale and then put 20 gallons of milk on the other scale.  See how the milk blows the banana out of the water as far as magnitude is concerned?  THAT, is how it is with astral sex.  The energy exchange during astral sex is magnified 1,000 times, and it TAKES a lot of energy to have astral sex too.   The experience can be draining, if I have too much of it.  For me that could be 2-3 times per day, with him being the initiator.

FallnAngel also says it all when he says astral sex can be very rewarding when exchanged between two people who love each other.  Astral sex doesn't have to be a nasty thing at all.  I've only had astral sex with one person, and it has been a very rewarding experience.

Clarissa


 

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I do not think that you do have to project to have "astral sex", though I do not think i see it as astral sex while you are still in the physical body. Though I do not know exactly what you are talking about as you have not been very detailed about it, I think I understand and have experienced something that is atleast similar, hard to say exactly. We have several bodies that all exist. We are just not aware of them, or most of them. If you become aware of your other bodies as well as your partner then this can enhance the sexual experience, even if you do not go to the astral realm and leave your physical body behind. This is kind of hard trying to explain it like this, but is this what you mean Clarissa?

Something that I wonder about is your lack of energy after the experience. Do you feel physically drained or like your energy has been drained, if that makes sense? I wonder if your lover is actually using you to drain your energy. Or maybe you are just expelling this energy and not mean to. You should try to store your energy as it will make you feel less tired as well as have other benifits.

Could you please try to explain what you are experiencing a little better? If you do not want to post the details publicly then PM me as I find this interesting and want to know more.

I think others originally brought up some of those points, i just went into a little more detail about them. Just want to give credit where credit is due.

 

[Clarissa]

FallnAngel,

Astral sex for me is shared in a telepathic sense.   (I've had the gift of telepathy since my early twenties)  Perhaps it is true that I don't go to the astral realm to have astral sex, but I do know there is some kind of 3rd dimension happening here because the connection with my loved one is very intense once its started and it is NOT physical sex, as he is not present when we have this sex.  All he has to do is think sexual thoughts about me and I will get his sexual thoughts and our lovemaking will begin.  Now perhaps this sounds like a sort of simple thing, but I've explained it to you in simple terms.  I am not an expert on telepathy or astral sex and I don't care to research it in depth.  All I can tell you is that what I experience is in some kind of 3rd dimension and it is not physical sex.   If you want to work with me to figure out more of what I'm experiencing, I have no objections.  I'll PM you if need be.

My loved one is not using me for my energy, but perhaps he sucks up more from me than I do him.  Sometimes I feel like my energy bucket runs out of energy, and I have to pause for a few moments until the bucket gets replenished.  Having astral sex while I'm hungry doesn't help either.  There are other things in life that have drained my energy and I'm sure this uses up precious resources as well.

Clarissa