Bruce Moen

[Nick]

There will be a weekend workshop at the end of this month south of where I live. I was wondering if anyone has attended one of Bruce Moen's Exploring the Afterlife workshops, and if so, would you recommend it?



Nick

[Hannah b]

What can I say Nick?..this workshop has changed my life!
I got worried at the beginning when i found out that it's not really OBE that Bruce is teaching..and a thought similar to "what the ....!?" crossed my mind..eventhough I 've read all his books before, it never imagined that he's NOT talking about OBE!(as you probably know he's into mental projections).
The method itself is too simple to be true;)..but it works, so what else can I say about it!?
To my huge surprise each day gave me such amounts of knowledge, that is so simple and so obvious when I think of it, that it's amazing how could I not have looked at it from a different point of view earlier??!
I have to add that my group (of 60 people) was very well "prepared" (as Bruce said)..it means that all of us knew something about astral travel, Bob Monroe, energy work..there were some huna people, some bioenergists..some experienced Astral Travelers..the youngest person was 18 the oldest around 60..ALL of us finished the workshops with a huge WOW! and a smile on our face..
I only worry that it's the 2 day workshop, because I took the 6 day one, (including the group retrievals, which are quite spectacular especially when you compare notes with 10 people and many aspects match..)
But probably those 2 days will still give you something (like everything;)), and maybe will get you thinking about the obvious things in a different way..I'm truly gratefull for the inspiration and tools I got from it (that I use while AP)
I have to add that Bruce Moen is my hero! He is such a fantastic person,  that I always have a smile on my face when i think of him. One thing is sure :you'll have a great laugh! Much depends on how advanced the people on the course will be...you don't wanna go through all this "what is a ghost" thing do you??
some more info
A text by one of the Warsaw course participants;
http://www.marczewski.pl/moen2.php

a peek into his new book
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/newsletters/2004/dec04.html#Installment

the course
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/partwksp.html

Oh!!! and EVERYTHING is worth a little side chat with Bruce, during the break..
In fact, some of the people admitted that they took part in the course, just so that they could be around Bruce's energy for a while..

all the best

[Frank]

Nick:

I can't comment on the workshop as I have never attended one, but I have had the opportunity of studying his work after finally getting around to reading a couple of his books: Curiosity's Father and Voyage Beyond doubt.

Firstly, he comes across as a bit "new age" for my tastes. But that could just be the "packaging" as it were, in the translation of the subjective reality into the objective model he presents. I note there are a number of advantages he offers beginner's especially. But one way I feel Bruce Moen stands out head and shoulders above many, is in his use of his "focused attention" concept.

He cuts a swathe through all the traditional obe-style constructs, energy bodies, astral bodies, vibrations, separation, and the like (very refreshingly IMO) and cuts right to the chase. Rather than altering his perception in consciousness, he concentrates more or less exclusively on switching the area of consciousness he is focused towards.

In doing this, he becomes a perfect demonstration of what I've been saying for a while, i.e. there are no barriers in consciousness, and there is no separation either. Only the restrictions we place on ourselves for the purposes of our experience.

Now, I cannot comment with any authority as I have never attended one, but I do believe this is basically what he teaches in the workshop. That rather than switching your perception in consciousness, simply switch your area of consciousness you are focused towards or focused within. He appears to be switching to what he calls the “afterlife” region, so I’m assuming he is connecting with people either engaged in transition (F23 to F26) or are within the Exchange Territories of Focus 27. Though they wouldn’t necessarily have to be, but I’m going from what he has published that I have read.  

As I say, he tends to wrap the whole thing up in new-age style terminology (from what I can gauge from reading the two books). But when I compare what he is doing to what I am doing, there are many, many parallels in our work. When I compare our respective models of consciousness, giving due allowance for his more new-age stance, I can concur more or less absolutely up to Focus 27. By that, I mean any differences are insignificant either way. But where we start to zoom off in different directions is on the presentation of his Focus 35 model, to which I cannot concur at all. But I do have a strong theory as to why that might be.

If I were not too far away I would definitely pop along to attend.

HTH

Yours,
Frank

[Hannah b]

If I may comment:

he tends to wrap the whole thing up in new-age style terminology

There are 3 things that Bruce repeats constantly:
1.From my experience...
2.You can call it whatever you like...
3.It doesn't really matter...

(fact, in the books he seems more strict and technical)..
he's a very open minded person, and the last thing he seems to care about is terminology or fixed interpretations..oh!lol...I forgot:
nr 4. I'm a simple guy....

hey Frank, why don't you drop by Poland or Germany in April (4 courses alltogether)..with the cheap airlines and the price of the 5day course (around 200$) it may be a nice trip eh?

[Gandalf]

This is what has made me slightly suspicious of moen: $200 per person?

That is a hell of a lot of money for a five day course! is this a standard rate for a typical 'self-help' class of any type? If so then I guess its ok and of course there is nothing wrong with earning a living from what you enjoy doing anyway and also the knowledge that your line of work is helping others..
its just that price tag.. sounds a bit suspect but then maybe thats just a UK perspective coming in.. perhaps in the US this kind of charge for a class is fairly normal?

Let me know as I would like to be sure of this and if it is fairly standard then i would feel better about Moen.

Douglas

[Hannah b]

That is a hell of a lot of money for a five day course!

  take a look at this
http://www.featheredpipe.com/workshops/bruce/index.html

with all my respect to mr Robert Bruce, but $1399 for a 7 day course is one hell a lot of money...
£495 for 4 days at the Buckland Hall...

I'm not comparing these 2 people..(btw has any one else noticed the familarities in the names of Robert Monroe, Bruce Moen and Robert Bruce? ..it's easy to get them mixed up..)
but is 200$ really a lot for a 5 day course??

is it a standard price for a "self help" class

in Poland yes..but our wages are a lot lower than in Scotland..so...
(it's a monthly pay for a nurse, thankfully I'm not one..)

This guy only lives off the courses and his books..(emm..how many can he write yearly??-he did 5 in his entire lifetime)..
if you go to afterlife-knowledge.com and see how many scheduled workshops he has during this year...emm..6..7??? This guy is recovering from a pretty serious stroke...so..emm....I'm just defending Mr Moen, out of plain sympathy towards him and for all the love I got.

all the best

[Nick]

Thank you everyone for taking the time to share your thoughts on and about Bruce Moen. I’ve today just traded a few emails with him, as well as the person here in Arizona who is hosting him at the workshop. My intention is to attend the weekend workshop.

Also, thanks to our forum member Tom who was kind enough to send me an interview of Bruce Moen by Art Bell. It was an hour and 40 minutes long and well worth it.

Major Tom – I’ll be sure to let you (and others) know my impressions of the workshop, as well as the ideas that came across, after I get back.

Hannah b – Thanks for posting all the information. I do appreciate hearing from someone who has experienced this before, although I know you were in a longer seminar. I do appreciate reading your enthusiasm. My hope is that the weekend workshop will be a nice spiritual boost, and I am betting it will be. I’m looking forward to learning all I can in the weekend time frame. Thanks also for those web links!

Frank – I was heartened to read your comments that one way that Moen “stands out head and shoulders above many, is in his use of his "focused attention" concept.”  Also,  “Rather than altering his perception in consciousness, he concentrates more or less exclusively on switching the area of consciousness he is focused towards. In doing this, he becomes a perfect demonstration of what I've been saying for a while, i.e. there are no barriers in consciousness, and there is no separation either. Only the restrictions we place on ourselves for the purposes of our experience.”  Thanks for those comments.

Gandalf – I appreciate the post. As Hannah mentioned the price is quite reasonable here in the US, and all things considered, I’ve spent that kind of money on less important things. As I mentioned above, I’ll post my impressions here at the Astral Pulse after the workshop (to be held February 26 & 27). Thanks again.


All the best,
Nick
 

[Adrian]

Hello Nick,

There will be a weekend workshop at the end of this month south of where I live. I was wondering if anyone has attended one of Bruce Moen's Exploring the Afterlife workshops, and if so, would you recommend it?
Nick

I have followed the work of Bruce for sometime and communicated with him at length.

I am totally convinced that what he teaches is both genuine and of profound benefit to people; at least potentially.

I don't like labels like "new age" because they tend to dilute the overall positive points of whatever "new age" really is. Very soon labels can become dogmatic an even a religion. Bruce's approach is broadly what might be called "new age" in some respects, but above all what he teaches is of great value.

Most methods of Astral Projection that have been taught hitherto tend to be too mystically oriented and beyond the ability of most people. The way Bruce teaches Astral Projection, which he calls "afterlife exploration" is till Astral Projection, but approached from a position which is within the reach of the vast majority of people. That alone is extremely important because Astral Projection is an ability that everyone should be able to embrace and benefit from. In my forthcoming book I detail 3 Astral Projection methods and 3 OBE methods that I believe are within the reach of the vast majority of people, and one of the methods for Astral Projection is similar to the Bruce Moen method.

A major key to Astral Projection, indeed any inner ability is use of the imagination which is one of the most powerful attributes, if not the meost powerful attribute of human beings. The Source, The First Cause, God created the entire Universe by means of an act of imagination, and we are all accordingly "ideas" in the mind of God, expressions of God. Using the imagination we therefore have the same creative power in the microcosm, our individual realities as God in the Macrocosm, the ultimate reality.  

Bruce Moen teaches how to use the imagination in order to project consciousness awareness inwards to the Energy levels of the Astral.

The Bruce Moen method does not result in a vivid Astral presence to begin with, but with practice each session will focus awareness more and more within the Astral Energy levels until such time it will become a full Astral projection. Even from day 1 it is possible to meet with relatives who now reside within the Astral Energy levels and "return" with absolutely conclusive evidence that the encounter was real.

With the caveat that I have no first hand experience with a Bruce Moen workshop and have no affiliation with him whatsoever, I can say that I believe he is totally genuine and his work is of considerable value.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[Nick]

Hi Adrian,

Thank you for your post.    It's always great to hear what you have to say. I'm very much looking forward to reading your book: Our Ultimate Reality once it is ready.

Projecting our consciousness to the astral realms proper holds more interest for me than say, the real time zone. As you said: "Bruce Moen teaches how to use the imagination in order to project consciousness awareness inwards to the Energy levels of the Astral." I am quite interested in learning from him at this workshop.

I completely agree with your comment: "Most methods of Astral Projection that have been taught hitherto tend to be too mystically oriented and beyond the ability of most people." These "newer" approaches to astral exploration such as described by you, our very own Frank, and also Bruce Moen, do seem more accessible to me.

After listening to Bruce Moen for an hour and 40 minutes on the Art Bell radio show with a phone call to the show from Ginny (whom we miss here), I did get the strong feeling as you said: "that I believe he is totally genuine and his work is of considerable value".

 
All the best,

Nick

[clandestino]

hey there Nick, I was just thinking of Ginny as I read your first post !

maybe you should drop her a PM, if you haven't already....

regards,

Mark

[Nick]

Hi Mark,

You know I took your idea to heart and did send Ginny a PM. If I hear back from her I'll let you know.

Best regards,
Nick

[Rob]

I'm pretty sure I've seen Bruce Moen around here before......hhmm ah yes he is here in the memberlist!
Yeah seemed like a solid interesting guy to me. And he's an engineer so you should listen to him      

[Gandalf]

anyone else have a copy of the art bell interview or know where i can get it?

Doug

[schrotty]

Nick, perhaps you could upload the file somewhere! I also think that it would be of much interest.

Schrotty

[Tom]

On the 4th I uploaded a 23 MB MP3 file of Bruce Moen on Art Bell to the www.yousendit.com and they keep files for up to 7 days. That is, unless someone actively removes it from their storage before then.

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15JZF6KND1IEM22GCB3X75KLEW

They gave me that address to go to if I wanted to look up the file I uploaded or something like that. You can download the file from there.