Drugs

[Xanth]

i don't do drugs in the physical realm but they're kinda fun to do in the astral 

You do "astral drugs"?  O_o
You're seriously going to have to explain that one a bit more if you want anyone to take you seriously.  LoL

And if you're just joking... then... 

[Stookie]

Someone once asked if you could do drugs in the astral.

Think about it: people use drugs to alter their state of consciousness. If you're astral, you've already altered your state of consciousness. What would the point be? To make is less vivid?

[kurtykurt42]

What if their was an astral drug that would densify your astral / energy body body (i.e. add more mass to it). That Way you could project to the RTZ and be seen by others in this 3rd dimension.

[personalreality]

You should be able to synthesize something like that on your own in the astral.  We can each have our own personal "imagination meth lab". 

The problem with using drugs to achieve AP or other altered states is that in the "western world" the quality of and connection to the drugs is usually very poor.  What I mean by that is that the people who use substances to induce altered states (like shamans) don't just buy some [insert drug name here] and trip out.  These people have an intimate relationship with the plant that helps them on their journey (I wouldn't trust artificially synthesized drugs like LSD, yes I know it was synthesized from ergot, but the process is entirely different than the one used by a shaman to produce his ally).  The shaman often grows the plant themselves or journeys into the natural environment around them to harvest just enough for their purposes.  They have a reverence for the plant that we often lack in the western world.  The actual process of turning the raw plant into something that can be ingested is one of love.  Each step is important and the process isn't just about making the drug, its a ritual.  What they are doing is a magickal ritual to "invoke" and "worship" the god/dess that lives in that particular plant.  While it may seem irrelevant to a skeptic who is only interested in the science behind the chemical interactions in the brain, the ritual is just as important (if not more) than actually taking the drug.  The reason is that if the plant hasn't been prepared with the "right" perception towards it, the experience won't be the same.  Again, if you're aren't terribly convinced by the animistic side of this, then you won't care.  But, for anyone considering using drugs for AP/OBE, unless you are apprentice to a shaman or have been invited to participate in the experience, then your experience may not be what you expect.  The actual experiences of shamans (and others who use these drugs ritually) has somehow filtered its way (along with mass produced batches of their "drugs") to the western world and our culture just isn't really structured to give the plant the attention it deserves.  It seems like a great way to circumvent the work needed to achieve OBEs but we usually only hear that people like shamans use these drugs to have OBEs, we rarely hear about the whole ritual.  To have the experience that people hear stories about, you have to participate in the whole ritual, from sowing and reaping, to making and taking.

[no_leaf_clover]

If you're astral, you've already altered your state of consciousness. What would the point be? To make is less vivid?

I'm not making the connection between all drugs and dulled senses.  Caffeine is a drug too.  Though it wouldn't help achieve OBE if you imagined yourself on caffeine it could energize you, for example.  There is no use discussing psychadelics and things like that unless you have personal experience but those definitely do not dull your senses either.  It's not like alcohol or cannabis.