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« on: July 31, 2004, 18:54:26 »

WOW Tom! I greatly appreciate your patience to write down your experiences and conclusions. I haven't read it yet but it looks like a very serious article. Thanks again. Good luck to F12!

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2004, 21:20:08 »

Thank you Major Tom for your time and patience in preparing this excellent essay. I have made it a "sticky" topic as you can see. Your detailed description of Monroe's focus levels, Focus 10, and its attendant experiences, is one of the best and most comprehensive, that I've read thus far. [^]



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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2004, 02:18:26 »

Hi Major Tom,

That`s by far the best explanation of Focus 10 I `ve ever read.I listen to Hemi-Synch on a daily basis and my experience agrees with what you describe.I particularly like your statement"the less you do,the easier you will go places." It took me a few months to figure that out for myself, and is an excellent piece of advice.

Thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort to produce a journal quaility paper!

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2004, 10:25:21 »

Greetings Major Tom,

Thank you very much indeed for your excellent essay on Focus 10.

I have added this to the Astral Pulse article library where it can be viewed here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/portal_articles.asp?catid=3&Title=Focus%2010:%20Mind%20awake/body%20asleep&LinkID=150&expand=true&area=3

We will leave this topic sticky in this forum for as long as people respond to it, and then we will move it to the Permanant Astral Topics forum.

Thanks again.

With best regards,

Adrian.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2004, 22:39:05 »

Thanks for the essay MT!

It is good to highlight that the mind awake/body asleep thing is more about becoming so focused on the mind that you forget about your body completely.
I think a lot of people get hung up on this stage, I know I still do quite often; however i am luckier in that I often wake up in the night in just the right frame of mind, so this is easier; the downside is that my awareness is often lower as a result of waking up from sleep so i have less control of my faculties!

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2004, 10:45:38 »

Wow! Thanks Major Tom, this has helped me a lot.  Now I know I'm on the right track.  Although I don't listen to brainwave generators I now know I am able to reach Focus 10 consistently; the problem is "switching off" from left brain activity.  The thoughts keep coming and trying to stop them is no good as this is also thinking!  I have yet to learn to "go with the flow" and let go, which is not easy.
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Focus 10 is where you have retreated from the physical about 85 to 90%. You still have an awareness that somewhere "back there" is a physical body. You are aware that you have one, but aren't really interested in it, and receiving next to no input from its physical senses. Your mind is awake and alert, but your focal point of consciousness is contained in what feels like a black 2-dimensional compartment somewhere about the center of your head
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I have read a few of Frank's posts from the archives and was interested to see you also included this quote.  I have found when I focus on this spot in my head it produces a sensation both physical and non-physical; it produces a kind of joyous sensation, I can feel my physical awareness diminishing, my entire body relaxing, and from this state have seen the snapshots you describe, as well as images (or videos/DVDs) of floating around my room with complete clarity, but as soon as I realize what's happening (that left brain thingy again!) I'm back to being aware of lying in bed.  It is becoming easier to passively watch these the more I practice and their duration is becoming longer.
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“An auditory perception may manifest as verbal messages, voices, or impressions of voices. It may also occur as sounds such as static, buzzing, pops and clicks, tones, or even music. These perception have a delicacy, a quality difficult to convey in physical, waking consciousness.”


These get me every time!  I used to get them as a child and was able to listen to them passively for ages.  I occasionally get them now, but every time they snap my awareness back and my attention is firmly back in the physical.

Your article has given me renewed faith.  It is only human to want to run before you can walk, but you are right; practice is the key.  Practice to the stage where you can get these sensations so consistently you become bored with them.  I have a feeling this is the way your higher self protects you, making sure you are ready to cope before allowing you to take the next step.  In this respect your avatar is really apt - The Fool's higher self prevents him from taking the leap over the cliff until he is fully equipped for the challenge.

Many thanks [Smiley]
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 14:08:42 »

Major Tom,

I would NEVER call you a fool [Smiley] Your posts have been very wise and informative, thought-provoking and well-written.  Some of it goes a little over my head but I get the general gist of it.  But I know you know what I meant [Wink]
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2004, 22:26:32 »

thanks alot for that last post major tom! i know ive been there before but i was trying to astral project and when that happend i thought it was working lol. i got so excited i went straigt back to
C-1. but now i'm wondering, if i got too focus 12 while trying a standard obe, um whats the difference? and how much farther would i have to go before i did leave my body?
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2004, 22:28:58 »

oops sorry i just read the above post explaining the difference between OBE and astral phasing. nevermind [xx(]
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2004, 11:37:29 »

Major Tom

The Focus 10 article was fantastic and just what I was looking for.

Thank you.

You are a gentleman and a scholar [Wink]

Sarah
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2004, 16:37:48 »

Major Tom

A question on Focus 10.  With regard to being in your head (rather than focussing on the body) and the visual aspect, when you see the swirly clouds behind your eyes, should you be concentrating on them or looking at them fuzzily.

By this I mean if you look at a page in a book and focus on the words, they are clear.  However, you can also look at a page in a book and the words start sliding around, because you aren't focussing properly.

Which vision should you be using?  I found that using the clear vision, I am still focussing on my body (albeit my eyes), but if I use the fuzzy vision, my mind tends to drift and I end up not even looking.

Oh, and one more question!  Whilst detaching myself from my physical body and placing 'me' in my head by going "inwards", I'm still aware of my head!  Could you describe the going inwards part in more detail - it's the only bit I haven't fully got yet.

Your advice is appreciated. [Smiley]

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2004, 16:19:34 »

Thank you Major Tom - you've been very helpful.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2004, 16:43:16 »

Thank you so much MajorTom for taking so much time for describing so well the F10 state. It's the first time I see such a clear description of the process.

Anyway, I still have one question that has never been answered : apart from relaxing, what do you do when you are trying to reach the Focus 10 level ? I mean if you just wait for things to happen you fall asleep. So, do we have to concentrate to a specific part of the body, the third eye...

I know this question must sound stupid but to me, this is really not obvious as just think "I am aware" is risky as you can fall asleep quickly.

Thank you for your answer.

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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2004, 07:51:43 »

Very interesting, as usual wink

My problem is : I can have a (slight) chance to reach the F10 level if I am a little bit sleepy BUT, then I usually fall asleep (even after a 6 hours night or at the end of the day).

If I do my exercices when I am fully awake, then it is almost impossible to reach the focus 10. Big dellema here.

I have reached the F10 a few times and I know as I am there as my visualization become almost photographical, I can read books or enjoy the few of a superb moutain as if I were physically present.

I think at that stage : woaaa, if only I could always have this visualization skill when I am conscious. Unfortunately this stage lasts a little time as I fall asleep shortly after...
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2004, 11:53:39 »

Thank you. I'll stick to my daily practice (still many hours to reach the 200 hrs) and keep the forum informed when I am successful.

Have a nice day.

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