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Author Topic: Focus 10: Mind Awake/Body Asleep  (Read 13661 times)
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2005, 05:52:53 »

Andonitxo,

Remember, the worst thing that can happen using these tapes out of order is nothing.  That’s it, the worst.  Nothing happens.  Don’t worry about skipping the first tape, it was intended to help you learn how the tapes worked and give you an idea about what would happen in the later tapes.  You got that from tape 2.

Like anything else, relaxing takes practice.  One thing that helps me is to tighten the muscles I’m having problems with then let them relax back to where they were and just keep relaxing them.  After awhile, you will learn what is needed to get them to relax.

Your heart feeling like it is speeding up or thumping harder or any number of strange feelings are normal.  For one thing, you are now noticing these things during a time (going to sleep) that you often ignore.  Don’t forget, you are heading into some new areas for you.  Expect odd things to happen from time to time.  After 25 years of poking around in this stuff (mostly meditation, some OBE/AP), I still experience things I’ve never heard of before.

Monkey chatter is always a challenge.  There is a balance between letting go and keeping a strict focus. On the one hand, you get monkey chatter.  On the other hand, you get meditation.  To achieve an OBE or AP, you have to be in the middle somewhere.  I’m still working on that myself.

Your last question was how many hours to spend on each time.  The answer is simply enough.  When you feel comfortable with one tape, feel free to move on to the next.  One way to know is to try it without the tapes.  That is the whole goal after all.  Can you reach Focus 10 without the tape?  Can you walk yourself through the exercises?  If you can easily do this, then you are ready to move on to the next tape.

One last point I want to make.  The tapes only guide you.  You can return from a Focus 21 to fully awake (Focus 1) instantly if you wish to (I‘ve done it).  You can even listen to a full tape and never leave focus 1.  You can also do everything the tapes teach without the tapes.  The tapes are a learning aid, treat them as such.  Learn from them, but don’t limit yourself to them.
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2005, 17:37:37 »

One_each, thanks for your words. Major Tom has adviced me to go on till controlling F10 and at the same time,at night, to practice parallelly F12 tapes.

Today, after reading your words I've realized the very key of relaxation is in the head. Without relaxing any other part of my body I get in a floating-like state just when loosing my face and neck's muscles. The only problem is that Monroe goes too rapidly and it is a bad thing to try to calm down in a rush. Now that I know that F10 state sensations I'll be able to know when to move on to the next tide in the golden path.

Anyway a short yoga class is mandatory to improve exercise's success, specially in what is related to backbone flexibility. It's curious to note how a new tension pops up when another one is released, as if we were puppets with all our threads interconnected. Maybe I'm more conscious of it because as a computer scientist I spend a lot of hours in front of a computer, sat down and quite tensed up.

By the way I'd like to comment there's some point I'm still loosing in this whole story. I mean, I've read about relaxation techniques from other sources, hypnosis included, and I do know there's a relaxing effect when any guy counts down in his mind. But in the past I did need to count up or down to 100 or from 100 to 0, and I find surprising just to count just from 1 to 10 (in F10). Of course waves will help, but believe me, I've proved with those BWgenerator sample waves and I've not felt anything, in spite of my faith and intent to go on. Somehow, at now, it works for me, so I'll continue trying and practicing.

Thanks again.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2005, 09:02:33 »

ive used the mind awake body asleep meditation and suceeded on my first try but you know what i didnt know that pinching myself would wake me up and i did it lol i was like omg im dreaming wow then i pinched myself and woke up Sad
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2005, 09:04:53 »

btw i was talking about lucid dream to bad theres no edit button and also i use these free cds for meditation that take me all the way to the delta state of meditation or conciousness i forget which one
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