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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2004, 10:32:15 »

Ok, I have been exercicing the focus 10 a lot since the few days and I just wanted to briefly report my impressions, the bad and good one (as an optimistic person I prefer this order).

cons : - my heart when I am really relaxed accelerates the heartbeat
       - I usually have a headache the day after my experiments
       - I always eventually fall asleep
       - I haven't experienced yet the hypnagogic imagery or swirling clouds.

pro :  - I am able to relax very quickly
       - after a while I have a feeling of pleasant warmth in my bodyparts
       - I know understand, with the great help of Majortom, that body asleep does mean a sensory deprivation, state that I usually reach, but not at 100%
       - the free holosync alternative available from Astralpulse is of a great help in the Fosuc 10 process. I prefer it to the stressing rain sound of hemisync (I love good freebies)
       - I "am in the head" when I am doing the focus 10 exercice. I mean it's like my all being is there.

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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2004, 08:38:00 »

Well, I am still going deeper into the trance state to the point I can't feel my physical body anymore. unfortunately, at this relaxation stage, the fast heartbeat keeps me from going farther and so, no hypnagogic imagery or the other signs of F10.

It's like I have taken too much caffein.

Majortom, is it usual to have this acceleration of the heart ? Is there something to do in order to make my practice successful ?

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2004, 16:15:50 »

MajorTom,

Thank you so much for explaining Focus 10 in great detail. I have been in focus 10 more frequently than I realized. I often get to the stage that I can no longer recognize where my limbs are.  Your paper gives me some indication of where I'm at.

I have a question for you or anyone who might have any suggestions.

In the morning, I often awaken in a very relaxed state.  I can close my eyes and I kind of "lock" on a recognizable feeling.  Shortly afterword, I can see full screen images with movement.  It may consist of a computer screen with letters being typed on it or scenery with moving creatures. Once I acknowledge the scenery in any way, I lose it.  This repeats several times until I either wake up or fall back into a normal sleep.  I am learning to be passive and the images are lasting longer.  OK, here's my question. Do you feel that I am starting to get beyond the Focus 10 stage at this point and if I keep working on being passive, do you think it will pay off by being able to hold the imagery long enough to turn it into a phasing or OBE experience?

Sorry for the lengthy post.

Happy travels,

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2004, 14:56:50 »

MajorTom,

Clear as mud![Cheesy] Just Kidding!

 
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The main difference, as you already mention, in the instability of these images in focus 10. That is, as soon you bring in some sense of self or an awareness that of yourself doing the watching, it is very difficult to hold your lock onto them.



It sounds to me that you know exactly what I'm experiencing.  The term "dream vignette" describes it perfectly.

This experience is very repeatable to me.  At least I know that I am able to get into focus 10 easily. I feel like I can anchor this step and start moving forward from here.

You have given me a great description of what It will take to get to the next step. I will now be able to recognize Focus 21 when I get there.

Thanks for the time and effort that you put into explaining this for me.

Happy Travels,

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2004, 03:30:03 »

Dear Major TOM...(or anyone else who can thorougly and authoritative response to this)

I’ve two questions for you:

1 – Hearing CD/Tape 1 of WAVE I of  “Gateway Experience” (or in its spanish version “Portal de Descubrimiento”) there are a short time lapse of vocalizing, that resembles “OM Chanting”.
What’s its real purpose..?

2 – Purpose of CD/Tape 1 is to take listener from C-1 (Normal Conciousness) to C-3 (Focus 3), namely the “Synchronization of Brain and Mind”. But I don´t get significant change between such a state and “tingling body and mind clearer” state that I reach when I conciously follows a controlled breathing rythm (Hatha yoga), without the assistance of Hemi-Sync process.
Is a sign that I must to persevere in hearing of Tape I ?
Or is a sign that I'm in condition of to accomplish purposes of Tape I without its assistance ?
How can you to describe "Synchronization of Brain and Mind" paradigm ?

My best regards...
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2004, 03:04:56 »

First,

That was good reading. I hadn't seen this thread originally and just now read through it.

On to the meat of my post. What about those of us without any Hemisync tapes or cds? I intend to get them at some point, and obviously I want to go to a Gateway Voyage program. But as a junior acting major, my schedule is so frantic that I can only work two nights of the week so I'm only bringing in enough to support absolutely vital things. While I'd happily argue my spiritual developement is just as vital to me as, say, food, and that I do believe, as many of you do, that consciousness is not rooted in the physical body at all, I have less experience in this than most.

So the point is, while I tip my hat to T.M.I. for their contributions to the sort of consciousness research that I am interested in, I don't have the money for their tapes let alone to attend a program there. But I don't want to just wait until I can afford Wave I to continue practice.

Any suggestions at how to become familiar with Focus 10 without the help of Wave I?
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2004, 18:41:22 »

Hello all,

Being new here i just read the article. I must say it is a very elaborate and detailed guide to focus 10, and gave me a very clear insight of what is meant by it (i didnt know until now what a 'focus' meant). I would like to post a few comments from my (here probably controversial) point of view.

First of all it struck me that as far as i am aware noone has ever mentioned that focus 10 is a type of trance induction. This is perhaps caused by the normally quite hazy and broad description of the term 'trance', but in my opinion (trance being a deepened / higher state of awareness which is caused and/or accompanied by lower brainwave levels) it is the same. Focus 10 to my experience is similar to a light to medium trance. I should also add here before people start saying again that i have no first hand experience on the matter, that I went through all the stages described in the article many times and that i recognize most of the 'symtoms'.

About the images we can clearly see when we are in focus 10 or deeper, it was already stated that they come from 'within ourselves'. I would like to specify this a little closer, they are largely produced by our inner subconscious. Without going in elaborate definition of what that exactly is, each of us had different experiences with being able to imagine these images. Some can do it with open eyes, while others have even difficulties while in focus 10. I would say that this depends on the strength of our connection with our subconscious. This connection also allows us to perceive through ESP (our subconscious being our intersection or 'depth point', so to speak with the astral). Some people are just better in this then others, so here also the strength of the connection is important (and experience + training of course). This is of course just an idea, but it is developed through experience and study of images and awareness of visions in trance stages and in dreams.

I have been using this focus 10 for quite some time now to induce an OBE (which as you might know i see as an elaborate lucid dream). It has given me very good results while being in this focus (or deeper) when I wake up shortly during the night. From what i have read here on deeper focus levels (which would be similar to a deep trance stage), I have experienced those often aswell. Focus 12 to 21 which are described here as the astral bridge zone or 3D blackness (quite an apt name i might say), is a stage which I have always called somewhat similar as the 'Black Void'. To me it represents a very interesting state of mind where you can either enter a LD or an OBE (RB type), or you can go down even into deep sleep and stay lucid there, or explore your own or other energies. I have often gone back and forth between the blackness and multiple lucid and/or Ob's.

Well just my thoughts on the matter, perhaps someone will find it informative
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2004, 21:07:05 »

Xetrov,

Thanks for the input. I'd just like to say I personally see nothing controversial about you opine.
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2004, 14:40:49 »

What a great thread! realy enjoyed it, I will ad my advice on such states, the best advice as given is not focusing on your physical body, I use a "method' its so simple we all do it, imagine, fantasise scenarios to your will, and realy get in them. When I do them, after a while i some times become aware that i cannot feel my body at all! so yes, imagine scenarious to your will, eg, ram raiding a seven 11, yes have fun and f10 usualy comes on quite quickly.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2005, 22:47:03 »

Hi Major Tom

Simply to thank you for the article yet again - I downloaded it today and spent some time re-reading, which a few months down the line was more relevant to me than before.

It's interesting because at times when I go through the sessions with Bob, I feel I'm not really getting anywhere.  And yet, half an hour later, when I am fully conscious and awake, I realise that I have just been "somewhere".

And I'm not talking about "here" and "there", but more about shifting my awareness.  Even today, occasionally I felt the "in your head" feeling, which was rather enjoyable, I must say, and something I plan to experience more often.

So, really, this is just a big thank you.  Cheesy

Sarah
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2005, 02:26:29 »

Great paper!  I had to read it twice to get the full potential out of it and because of that, I managed to get a focus 12, the first time I tried!  So happy!  And I've been regulary reaching 10 and 12, thanks Major!

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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2005, 01:14:28 »

Hey thanks for posting this for all of us.  I just read the whole thing and a lot of stuff is making more sense.  I never used to know about all the focus levels.  I read a couple of obe website which got me into these focus levels but none have explained what to do once i got there.  I just realized that after my first night trying to have an obe i made it to the focus 21 level and couldn't do anything from there.  I eventually figured out a way to have an obe but it happens really spontaneously.  I think this will help me out a lot. thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2005, 08:51:36 »

Thanks A Lot, Tom. I Just D/L'ed And Burned Boxed Nirvana To A CD, And I Had About 12 Hours Of Sleep, From 4 Am To 4 Pm Today. It's About 2:50 PM And I'm Not Very Tired. Taking All Of This In, I'm Going To See If I Can Get Anything Tonight, As I'm Sure It Will Be Much Easier Since I'm Not Very Tired. Again, Thanks Much. You Don't Know How Helpful This Article Is...OnE.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2005, 08:53:29 »

^LoL...I Meant 2:50 AM...Not PM. Anyway, Thanks Again, As I've Read The WHOLE THing...
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2005, 17:12:27 »

Hi there all,

I've PM-ed Major Tom this morning, but I've thought later it would be better to publicly ask so others can take advantage of the information given.

My main problem is to know how much time to spend with every tape in F10 (I mean Orientation, Intro, Advanced,...). I started off from Intro to Focus 10, the second recording, by mistake, but I've achieved many interesting effects on my body.

For example, my neck doesn't relax, even my jaw seems to go tenser than it uses to be. So I end up with a totally relaxed body stuck to a head which seems more heavy. The second time I tried, I was able to relax it completely (don't ask how, maybe vacations had something to do with it) and I felt as floating on the floor feeling emptyness in my abdomen area (the tensest one). Maybe my subcons thought it was easy to attain and I'm overconfident now,... who knows. Sometimes it uses to work to imagine I have a Buddha-like hat, you know, those whichsurround your head, also along the back side, and which have a tip in the top part. That way, a white light hood tends to relax a bit more my head.

There's another effect on me, the increased heart beating. My heart speeds up abdormally though I'm relaxed and with no special worries on my skull.

The last point is that many thoughts come to me unexpectedly. Conversation with others I've had time ago, scenes from tv shows,... and the like. Their occurrence is richer if I'm close to sleep, as those images that come after we lay down on bed at night. It is difficult to shut up the monkey.

Oh!, I nearly forget it. Automatically my forehead gets relaxed at the beginning of the exercise. It feels as if it is tore in several layers, or as if the forehead splits from my head and it floats over it. As wierd as relaxing. This effect reproduces in awaken situations (as on the bus).

So, to boild down, how those 200-300h of F10 must be divided along the 6 tapes of F10?.
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