Phasing methods

[Pete]

More on imagination - or perhaps what we do is create in the astral planes the scene we are imagining and it is there for real as thought forms and then those people in the astral planes we are trying to contact or interract with are then able to come to that place and animate it, inhabit it, and if we are willing and able, then take us on from that to other things. Or if it is a place we are imagining and intending to go to, perhaps the thought form attracts us to the place, carries us to it, and then overlaps it more or less, and we then start to perceive the real-ness of the actual thing.

I guess I wonder about it because I have a lot of mistrust of the imagination I am trying to get over, as if I think it is misleading me when the truth seems to be that it is actually leading me.

Pete

[Ultraveil]

Hi Peter, I have only recently joined the Astral Pulse furums and I'm very impressed with your ability to articulate what you see and experience in words. It's a great gift you have.

I stumbled upon something interesting about the imagination a few years back which you may find interesting. If you take the actual word "IMAGINATION" and split it into three - you get "I" "Magi" "Nation" which is directly interpreted as My Magic  World!

Hope to speak to you soon. P.S when phasing and you reach the "3D blackness!!!" try "imagining" the word "ve-ger-bu-rah" in fact, vibrate it using that high pitched noise you "hear" between your ears!

[Haematite]

Hello to all![]
I'm happy to enjoy that international community of people who are trying (and often manage )to reach other worlds. I'm brand-new here and I have to admit that most of the turms you use make me feel a bit confused cause I don't know what they mean, and my english language isn't fluent at all (please, let me be excused [:I]). But after more reading and pottering here I began to realise that I've experienced some of the things you're talking bout - lol I only haven't knew their names...and probably I've thought I was going mad []
It's good to find so many people you can understand and to be understand by
See you around
Blessed be []

[coral1]

Hi Pete

   Even though I can project in the traditional way I`m still interested in learning the phasing technique. The way I understand it is that it directly projects your conciousness to the astral without the intermediate steps of creating a projected double.That right there would eliminate the memory problem.Another advantage is a much greater degree of control over where you end up.I have yet to master any reliable navigation skills and tend to "arrive" at various locations within the RTZ, astral or combinations of the two.The person who impressed me the most who uses a phasing technique was Ginny.She is able to travel at will to various locations with a great degree of accuracy.I think that was why Frank was doing it as well and he`s my hero!Unfortunatly since Frank left the forum the phasing thread has languished.

     When I`m going down through the various Monroe focus levels I`ll see glimpses of astral scenery but when I try to move into them or place an intent to be there they simply fade.I think my problem might be a reluctance to use my imagination, or at least give it free rein.Bruce Moen emphasizes this point as an important part of his focused attention technique and I think it might hold true for phasing as well.Anyway I`m going to keep trying.One of these days I`ll stumble on the proper mind-set to make it happen.

Happy Trails

[coral1]

Hello Heamatite

     Welcome to the forum.Your English is better than half the people here who speak it as a first language!I look forward to reading your posts.

Cheers

[Pete]

Hey coral1,

<<I`ll see glimpses of astral scenery but when I try to move into them or place an intent to be there they simply fade>>

Interesting. Perhaps step back a bit and let one sort of come to you. I mean, a lot of the scenery may not be connected enough to your true desires and purposes to engage you enough to enter them, even though you might intellectually want to. Perhaps step back a bit and see what emerges. Or even ask for someone to help you enter one. You didn't say what your intent was but I do think it needs to be more than only the curiosity to go to a place, at least in the beginning of trying to do it, if not as a general rule.

I don't experience it quite the same way, I don't go down through the levels. My feeling is more horizontal and dimensional, as if things are appearing in front of me and then I enter when something is clear enough. Then I have movement, lateral, vertical, etc when I'm in a place. Though sometimes it isn't as clear as that and I am just in an exchange with someone face to face.

My instinct from what you wrote is to suggest examining your intent, maybe seek out the answers to some question or desire to meet with someone deceased or a guide or something, and then the entering into the scenes happens as a by-product. It's seems a lot like things in the normal physical world - the more interested we are in them, the more real the experience is to us and we are only interested in those things that have some real relevance to our goals, hopes, desires, etc.

Also, since what we find is so unexpected, another suggestion would be to not try to control the experience and just go where you go, but that doesn't sound like what you described. For me, most of these "trips" start with impressions of something that is so out in left field that I don't think it can be related to the questions I have or my intent, an image of a bird flying, then I see its over a valley, then I see there's a river in the valley and some men are riding horses off of ships, etc etc and the it starts to gain depth and real-ness.

Another suggestion is to put out suggestions and questions for what you want to happen. Sometimes, if it is fading a bit, I will say, I want this to be more real please, and darned if it won't get more real. Sometimes just for a few seconds, I'll hear things suddenly when I wasn't hearing anything, and then it might fade again. My impressions at those moments is that I must be having trouble maintaining the level and someone on the other side is giving me some help for a few seconds and then letting me go back to my own efforts.

Anyway, intent seems to be the key, is my impression of your email.

Also, for me, intent comes from the heart chakra area, not from the brain. I often feel it coming from the heart area, so to further define the word, intent might also mean what you desire or feel or want. Communication while phasing seems to all come through the heart chakra for me also. When you want to enter a passing scene, you might try focusing on your heart chakra area and see where it is pointing, or leaning, or takes you. Or throw out a "connection" from it to the scenes and see where it "attaches" itself. Just some ideas to play with that sometimes work for me.

I am envious that you can do the classic obe. It does seem that it is a common feature that it is a bit unpredictable, to do it at will and to navigate once in. I am starting to suspect that there might be some natural protectiveness reasons for it. One thing that comes to mind is that the lower astral planes are not suppossed to be that great to be hanging around in and maybe the mechanism is there to protect us. I don't know.

When you phase and maintain that awareness of yourself here to some degree like you don't while obe, it definitely acts to ground you here and allow your conscious mind to exert some sort of control. Finding that balance between control and interferring with the experience is the art.

I am familiar with Bruce Moen's work. I've read his books and listened to one of his workshops. It is essentially the same thing as what we are calling phasing here (and what a friend of mine calls channeling). I think it is just a matter of degrees, of how real the experience gets. The least real being a medium and the most real being the classic obe. For some purposes, or intents, it doesn't seem necessary to get real real, while other times it does.

all the best
Pete

[Nick]

At this point in this thread I thought it would be appropriate to include a previous post by Frank. He hasn't been here for a while, however his posts have always helped many of us, so here is a post of Frank's from the thread Achieving consciouness state for Astral phasing:

I've had a number of PM's asking similar questions about my comments regarding the mental-rundown given on the monster-thread as being a kind of primer which kick-starts the natural Phasing process.

The questions relate to how you integrate the two and kick-start the process; how can you tell when the process has been kick-started, and what to do then, etc. So I thought I’d post a reply here as it pertains to the thread title.

What is the purpose of creating a mental rundown?

The rundown acts as a kind of mental primer which gets you in the mood and increases your anticipation and expectation levels (very important). The rundown is not what causes you to Phase to the Astral. Phasing is a natural process which comes about under certain mental conditions which I expand on later in this essay. It also gives a person practice in focusing their attention away from the physical body into the expanse of their mind. In other words, what you are basically doing is imagining you are Phasing to the Astral.

What shall I try, and for how long, and how often?

The mental-rundown exercise should be performed preferably at least once each day at around the same time. It does not really matter what kind of mental rundown you use. Simply do whatever feels right for you. Someone posted fairly recently they tried to work out their own but gave up and used the example I gave with a few changes here and there. Others have created their own from scratch. Like I say, it truly does not matter.

You don’t actually need the Wave-1 CD either. You can formulate a mental rundown to some relaxing music, or create something using Brainwave Generator, or use whatever suits you. All I would advise is for you to create something of around 30 to 45 minutes duration which you are basically happy with then stick with it. In other words, don’t make it too short, or too long, and no chopping and changing.

Okay, I’ve formulated a mental rundown so what next?

Once you have learnt your mental rundown you are ready to use it as a mental primer. First you go through it. Then simply remove the earphones (if you are using a CD or tape) and try Phasing for real.

In cases where you perhaps haven’t got all that much time to spare, what I would suggest is you create a short version of your rundown. Say, around half the duration. Then, every other time, listen to the short version after which you try for real. Once you get more competent then perhaps switch to the short version each morning. Or maybe try a regime of rundown one day and try it for real with no rundown the next. Again, it truly is a case of whatever suits each individual.

What do you mean by “Phasing for real?”

When you come to Phase for-real, you switch from perceiving metal imagery you are imagining as part of your rundown, i.e. where you are imagining you are Phasing to the Astral, to perceiving images that are being created as part of the normal Phasing process. In other words, you are not imagining anything, you are doing it!

After going through my rundown I try it for real and nothing happens, why?

Chances are, your physical-body is distracting you by capturing your attention.

One of the benefits of formulating a mental-rundown to some kind of audio recording, is it takes your mind off both the physical body and the Physical environment. Plus, you know exactly what imagery to perceive as it is you who is imagining it. Without these two mental props it can feel like you are right back at square one.

Main things you should avoid when trying for-real

Thinking about day-to-day Physical-realm matters.

Any kind of thinking about anything to do with the Physical-realm tends to put a *big* spoke in the works. In other words, you can’t really hope to kick-start the Phasing process if one part of you is thinking of your dental appointment next day; or whether you’ll get that pay-rise you requested; or your birthday next week, etc., etc.

To deal with this what you should do, right at the start of your practice, is imagine a large box and place all your Physical-realm concerns in that box. Then lock it securely and walk away. When you finish your mental-rundown, unlock the box and take them out again. This method is suggested by Monroe on the Wave-1 CD. It may sound a bit weird but it works!

Any kind of internally verbalised thought (even if it is to do with Phasing!).

What I mean here, is you need to switch your inner-thinking so it is working exclusively in a visual way. Speed-reading aside, when we read to ourselves we have this inner voice which reads the words. This voice is probably what you are listening to within your own mind, right now as you read this.

Also, when we think to ourselves in an everyday sense we tend to use this same inner voice. Like, you may think, “Hmm, I’ve got 30 minutes before I meet my next client, so I’ll go and fill the car with petrol and pick-up something to eat on the way back.” Thinking that way uses that same inner-voice… which must be silent.

Then you quietly and passively observe what happens next.

When I say “quietly” I mean observe without having that inner-voice comment on anything you may perceive.

When I say “passively” I mean avoid reacting in any way to anything you may perceive.

Both the above I realise are a tad tricky to do. The good news is it all comes good with practice. At first, what will probably happen is you might perceive some kind of vague, fleeting image. At which point your inner-voice will chirp-up saying, “What was that?” or it might make some other comment. Perhaps it may comment in recognition that you are making progress.

Problem is, as it does so, it tends to send you a step back each time. Unfortunately, you can get caught in a self-defeating loop: where you take one step forward, your inner voice recognises you just took a step forward and comments to that effect, and the act of it doing so takes you one step back to where you were before.

Or you might perceive something and react to it. You might get startled, or fearful, or such like. What used to happen to me all the time (which was most frustrating) is I’d perceive some image in mind and, the moment I did so, my physical eyes would try and snatch a glance at whatever it was. This, of course, zapped me right back to C1 each time.

Okay, so you are in a state where you are quietly and passively observing. Don’t worry if nothing comes about. Simply curtail the session after your normal time and try again next session. Hopefully, what will soon happen is you will begin to perceive what may seem like fairly weird, totally abstract mental imagery.

Say you perceive some fleeting kind of something or other. Chances are you’ll wonder if what you think you may have perceived is what you should be starting to perceive. Then you’ll realise your inner voice has just made a comment. But the realisation of that was yet another comment. By which time you’ll probably be right back where you started.

The key is to simply roll along with this mental imagery, without your inner voice commenting on it, or having your physical body reacting to it. This is the beginning of Phasing. You don’t need any particular “technique” in order to project. You just need to set it going. Once the process gets underway everything happens more or less automatically.

If you can just quietly and passively observe the process you will end up within the Astral as awake and alert as you normally are while within the Physical.

Yours,
Frank


Final note:

One brief mention should be made that Frank, in many of the posts he made along the lines of Astral Phasing, made reference to "focus levels" (as I have in this thread). This is a derivative from the writings of Robert Monroe who first wrote in these terms. They are meant as reference points to certain states that generally most individuals experience. They are also meant as a guide and are not written in stone. Certainly everyone is different as are many of their experiences, however I for one have found an explanation of these so called focus levels to be quite useful.

[eeb]

Great explanation Major Tom, obviously you have the things very clear. I am going to try the approach you just described.

[FrostyRose]

Hello!

This topic is amazingly interesting. A few months ago I started having my first OBEs, and it was actually quite easy. I didn't really have any methods to achieve an OOBE, I would just come obsessed with the idea of having one, go to sleep during daytime and wake up to hear those humming sounds.
And sometimes, when I closed my eyes, I would see various sceneries, and quite often a white table with people seated around it. I didn't understand what this way, until now. Can phasing cause OOBEs?
I took a break from out of body experience, mainly because I turned scared and lost control. Now I'm having difficulties achieving one. Maybe phasing was my key to go out of body?

Thanks.

[FrostyRose]

Thank you for your wonderful reply MajorTom!

I never thought about it that way. Wow. It really feels like I had something wonderful, and lost it.
The reason why I went to sleep during daytime, was because I was less scared then. But later I was also pushed out of my body during nightime, this frightened me, and I stopped. I was quite depressed at that time.  
Perhaps it would be wise to try having an OBE when I'm not dead tired? Make time to take a nap in the middle of the day. I will keep trying!

[Nick]

Originally posted by Major Tom:

 

quote:Cause really, I can see no greater barrier to astral projecting than fear. That's why it is so important to first dissolve that fear, and be for prolonged periods in this state of awareness of reduced sensory perception.

Well said, Major Tom, and you are so right! The fear sometimes lies in the background, as if held in abeyance, until we are quite close and then rears its head.

I do like your descriptions of what is needed towards success in obe and phasing:

 

quote:"Focus 12 is a phase state with still less attention to the physial body and more movement into (M) field energy. With the continued lessening of physical sensory input, perception of M) field patterns becomes progressively clearer)."

So there is the baseline that I think everything would be wise to start with if wanting to practice phasing (or leave the body in conventional ways). Get to know these states very well until very comfortable with it. No need to do aythign else, since it will only add to the fear.

Once bored, and waiting for more to happen in these states, things will happen.

And also:


 

quote:One last comment. I have noticed some complaining about very easily being thrown out of these states when hearing noices and so forth. I think it's true that when seeing images or visions in these states, one will stop seeing them. However, that doesn't mean one has been thrown out of the state. Go back to the baseline to see where you are after you think you have lost the state - the extent of sensory reduction. Often, you will find you will be fully in it.

Great advice! By the way, if you ever decide to put together a short essay on this, please let me know. It would make a great addition to our File Library, and "sticky" topic too.


Very best,
Nick

[Adrian]

Greetings everyone,

We are indebted to Frank for his exceptional information regarding phasing based upon the TMI Wave 1 CD's in accordance with the thread of the same name.

I am sure it would help many people wishing to project if we could collect more true phasing methods of Astral projection.

Please post your phasing methods and experiences here.

Thank you.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Nick]

Excellent post, Major Tom, and a good description of the perceiving of non-physical energies:

Rather, you try to “see” a favorite image for only a very brief period of time as if it comes out of nowhere. You do not try to hold it either. If it’s vague (like for example seeing a half-formed image of lake surrounded by mountains) then you do not try to make it more vivid. Rather, get on with the next one! That’s it for that particular image and you move on to the next.The as if part is crucial, and the critical reader here will be aware that acting as if is the true meaning of the word imagination, which is an act intricately wound up with intent and self/world bounderies

and also:

Suffice to say, sooner or later, if you stick to this process you will really perceive a version of your favorite image. One that really did come out of nowhere! Expect to be surprised with the detail and beauty of these images. They may be snapshots at first, but once you have seen for example a tree that originates not from your mind, but from elsewhere,

One of the nice things about the early phasing process is when you begin to experience these detailed scenes that begin to appear. Once, early on,  a fantastic looking city appeared with surprisingly intricate detail and beauty.  It was clear, upon reflection, that this remarkable scene was outside of anything I could have initiated. At the time, it was for me a significant point along the way.

Thanks again,
Nick

[Nick]

Major Tom wrote:

Btw...not sure where my essay went, I think it's slowly disappearing in the astral consciousness forum.

It may have fallen victim to the forum changeover, I don't know. I tried a forum search but came up empty.  It's such a good essay and members could benefit from reading it. If you can make it available again let me know. I'll "sticky" it in the astral conciousness forum (or another forum if you prefer).


Very best,
Nick

[Mustardseed]

Hi Tom and Frank
I had a question.This afternoon I was attempting a exit, or phasing as you also prefer to call it (I am still a bit old fashioned I guess ) . I have been reading your comments and will describe try to describe it, to get your input.

After doing my usual energy work and relaxation exercises, I dozed off for a brief time, very brief, I had a small dream and suddenly became aware of my body on the bed again upon which the dream faded. I was left in a pretty deep trance, no body awareness a numbness and heard a few voices and sharp snaps to the right of my head. The swirling intensified and suddenly I started to see these strange signs. They looked like Chinese writing and they appeared as hypnotic images slowly almost in a frame slightly fuzzy at the edges. They kept coming at me slowly drifting toward me in a way.

I kept backing away from them just ever so gently to observe them better. There were signs as if written on a wall, then a landscape appeared and after that more lights and suddenly my wife (we are apart at the time) appeared before me, she sort of was cloudy at first and quickly took shape. I could observe her from her torso and up as she slowly walked towards me. The look on her face was one of absolute love and affection. The image became bigger and she slowly reached out for me and put an arm around my neck and kissed me gently with a big smile. The feeling was other worldly and very pleasant. At this point I got emotional and the image faded pretty fast. Then my alarm went off and I had to go to work. Normally the hypnotic imaging I have experienced have been only visual, but in this I actually felt her hand and she was aware it was me, and I felt her as she smiled and kissed me. Yet it was not a lucid dream, at least not as I know them, and the color swirling was still around the edges and as the image faded it slowly abated.

I know for a fact that at the precise time this happened she was meditating and praying for me, as I am in the middle of some big personal decisions.

For a while I have tried to project to her and have been mildly successful. One time I was able to stand outside her bedroom door, and some one came from an adjoining room and stopped startled and looked toward me. It was as if he saw something but still could not see me, he stood there for a full minute or so and left, after which the scene faded.

Are these experiences solely mine or could there be energies at play from her side as well, could she have projected in a way to me or could this be a sort of remote viewing of a kind.

We are very close, soul mates if you will but separated for personal reasons at this time.

What do you think?

Regards Mustardseed