Phasing methods

[NickJW]

What exactly are the differences between F12 and F15? Can't anyone on these forums answer that???

[Shinobi]

Nick,

Try this link:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=160894&highlight=f12+f15#160894

Pay special regard to the postings by Frank - he does a pretty good job of outlining the Monroe model in this post, and mapping it to his FoC model.

Take care,

Shinobi

[greatoutdoors]

I guess I need to do some clarifying as well.

When I say

If we do not actually exit during an OBE, then all the things we see, whether good or bad, are aspects of our own nature. That being the case, nothing can harm us during an OBE.

I mean things separate and apart from our own mind/brain.

So far as our own minds harming us, that is a given. Even hard science is now getting on board with that concept. Just a few examples pop to mind: heart problems, migraine headaches, high blood pressure, etc. I am pretty sure we can also create purely mental problems for ourselves as well.

But, while the above examples are "real," they aren't initiated by an outside force -- it's not like running into a tree while OBEing.

Okay, I may have succeeded in confusing even myself.