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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2005, 03:38:40 » |
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hi this is a method i use in my daily life not only in what i call step one of a obe it is to clearer your mind by mentally writing everything in your mind then mentally erase all those things you wrote i found it a vary hard method to learn because i am not the best one to come up with good training methods but this is great for making your self forget something some one told you than just not doing what they asked if you are mad at them  but that is off the subject any way's if some one has something i could put this in effect with as in add to this to some other method to achieve a projection that would be great
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2005, 10:16:36 » |
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it is to clearer your mind by mentally writing everything in your mind then mentally erase all those things you wrote
Hey - that's good. And if you wanted to be really thorough, you could literally write down on a piece of paper everything that is on your mind. And then erase it all, or tear it into lots of little pieces and chuck it in the bin. Hmmm, on the other hand, that might be too effective. You could end up forgetting whole swathes of stuff... Sarah
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2005, 19:46:11 » |
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make sure that you shred the paper that you write everything down, otherwise you wouldn't want mental identity theft..  but I do like what you suggest. it is good to write what you are thinking, it does allow one to let out the thoughts, worries, cares and organize them. i think the act of throwing it away is symbolic. starting a new, getting a fresh lease on starting over again.. tvos
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2005, 22:37:21 » |
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I've never actually gotten out yet, but i came close a few times.
i have a clock in my room that ticks pretty slow, so i keep my breathing going at the same pace as the clock. i visualize myself lifting up from my body with my body still laying there. then i keep saying in my head "i am slowly lifting out of my body"
hasn't gotten me out yet, almost though.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2005, 16:00:15 » |
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I havent managed to get out yet either, but heres what it try: I lay down in bed on my back with palms facing up along side of my body. I breathe in for 5 seconds, hold it for 3 and exhale for 5. In through nose, out through mouth. I then on the inhale imagine im on a ladder, but dont move down the ladder until i get to the exhale, when i go down approx. 5 steps. i keep doing this and keep my eyes open just over the coveres a tiny bit, then it seems weird to try and close my eyes, because they feel resistent. I feel a tiny bit numb, but most of the time hardly anything happens. After a while of doing that i imagine a rope at my chest and i imagine me climbing up the rope in the same blackness that i imagined the ladder to be. After a while i stop, because nothing happens apart from i seem to twitch and move a bit while im climbing the ladder.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2005, 22:43:18 » |
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That sounds like a lot of work with the ladder but if it gets you out and there are results cool, go for it!
Either way you look at it, this boils down to mental/physical work. You have to kinda of let the process happen naturally with a mental carefree attitude.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2005, 23:55:18 » |
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It seems like a lot of work ? Possibly why i cant project then, any tips on how i should "tone it down" ?
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2005, 00:07:13 » |
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Xiaolin,
Everyone is different in their technique's and methods. To me that approach seems to be way out there. I understand the principles and objective, but never in my life I've tried using the rope technique. To some, my approach of using the trance state might sound complex, challenging to summon and difficult.
If I were you, read up on all the different methods, techniques and feel them out for yourself. What ever is comfortable to you and that results are positive, stick with that plan and develope it. Try a different technique each week and see what works and what doesn't. A lot of this is trial and error until you're in the clique.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005, 03:02:06 » |
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Hmm, ok man seems like a good idea, ill try that.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2005, 03:03:24 » |
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Sorry to double post but... what technique do you use tvos ? Ive seen your post, something about rolling out of your bed ?
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2005, 03:26:15 » |
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Xiaolin,
Here's a few extracts from previous posts on AP that might give you some ideas and help you out.
Set an alarm clock to go off every 15mins and when you start to fall asleep imagine yourself rolling inside like a log. Once you feel the vibes come on, roll yourself out onto the floor.
The last 3 months(4/27 - 7/25) - I've been keeping track of my experiences and I believe this helps the overall picture. With keeping a journal what I eat during the day, time tracking of the experience, along with journal notes.
So far to date here's the breakdown
Conscious Astral Projection - 19 False Awakening - 4 Lucid Dream To Astral Projection - 2
I'm constantly mentally thinking of astral projection, reading, listening to the subliminal tape, talking with people on-line here at the astral pulse, mental affirmations to myself during the day, reciting, crystals, and acting out my intent, setting up experiments and with goals in mind.
This is what it takes for me to be successful at projections. Its a lot of mental/physical work and its paying off.
Hopefully, you can use this information to further your own studies and practices.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2005, 13:31:07 » |
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Tvos, thanks alot for your very detailed responce, ill definitely give that a try.
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2005, 07:09:43 » |
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Xiaolin,
Let me know if that helps you out and sets you straight. Feel free to email me anytime.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2005, 21:00:45 » |
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Here is quote I wrote and pulled from the metaphysics forum. I'm posting it here, maybe it would be of some help. James, you said that you never wear glasses when you meditate. Do you meditate with yours eyes open or closed?
The only reason I say this is because I know most people meditate sitting down with their eyes closed in a quiet room. I'm just using this as a generic description of meditation. In my meditation sessions I usually stand in the middle of the room and I have small tv stand/alter that I place a candle on and I stare into the flame. I have trained my self to meditate with eyes open. Even when I project astral and travel I use the aforesaid procedure. To go even farther I take a small radio and turn up the volume all the way. I've trained myself to block out my surroundings when I meditate or travel. I don't even notice the radio or anything else in the room for that matter.
Another method I do is I stare at myself in a mirror until it goes black. Once black I know I'm projected, but for me this method demands a little more concentration.
Maybe I'm more advanced than most, or maybe I've found what works for me.
Only in the most demanding situations of concentration do I sit and close my eyes.
"A wise man sees with his heart, not his eyes" [/quote]
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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2005, 05:09:15 » |
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OK, I just joined this site and wanted to post a method that works for me. I work at a freight dock and do a lot of heavy lifting for almost 14 hours a day nonstop which makes this method real easy. No charts, or drugs, or bar graphs, or pie diagrams, or any hoo-haa like that. Step one: one must become physically exhausted while mentally awake and alert (energy drinks do the trick nicely here). Weight training will do. I'm not just talking a little tired but to the point that one would put considerable conscious effort in not falling asleep on the spot. You'll know you're at this point when you move your astral limb and your body limb soon follows as if attached by rubber bands. From what I understand, your astral form and physical form is supposed to occupy the same time and space. When you reach the prime time point they're slightly off from each other. Almost like a bad trace drawing laid offset over the original drawing if that makes sense to you. Step two: this is the prime moment. Get in bed somewhere quiet alone comfortable and protected. I like to use a small fan blowing softly on the bed to give the feeling of floating in water  Anyways, from here on use any relaxation method you're most familiar with whilst staying off falling asleep. If it works you should be able to leave your body with simple ease.
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