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« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2007, 00:34:02 » |
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My technique:  *Sorry if this is a repost in any way, lol, thread is thick and I'm lazy. This is for getting into the "process" of going to have a projection.1.Have a afternoon nap! -works almost 90% for me to get into the "process", success rate not so good, im new but.. point is it pretty much like your on "preheat", like a oven basically your ready for whatever...if you follow what I am saying.... -anytime during the day, maybe its 12 or maybe its 6 2. Usually when I wake up, I dont move at all, or get excited. I just focus on being paralyzed or feeling that way, in a way going back to sleep(which also sometimes works anyways), other methods work like not even focusing on anything, I'm sure your own ideas will work here also. *The rest is kind of blah blah 3. Usually once I do I'll hear the cool/scary noises, which pretty much sends me to the vibration state... 4. once you get there I guess your set to exit, but make sure the vibrations are fairly strong, if not focus on increasing it. **** requires a good amount of time, at most 1-3 hours free time, so its for you kids like me or weekends with not much to do. Although i usually go to bed late, and somewhat tired in the first place, I sleep some times for about 6 hours at nighttime. Also naps are good before you go to a party  , Team Rowdy, woooooooo. 
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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2007, 01:23:13 » |
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I use a simple technique that requires no stilling of the mind or visualization (too lazy for that)
All I do is focus my attention on a highpitch whistle in my head, as time goes by it becomes louder (no effort)
I relax, stare at my innervision and contemplate on how safe I'll be and what it is I want to do, or where I'd like to go.
After a while I can sense my physicall body falling asleep, I start to buzz... (what a rush)
A lifelike picture forms, it becomes bigger and pop, I'm there. I do a lot of space flying.
I normally ask my Divine Mother or Father to take me where I need to be, I then do my superman thingy (transporter with me)
I chat to my guide, whenever she feels like responding to my call (once I caught her sunbathing)
This sounds like you have a good method, relaxation is the key anyway. and you caught your guide sunbathing - thats great haha!
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« Reply #92 on: August 14, 2007, 04:30:14 » |
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Chant this mantra while in a lucid dream according to jonathan nassaw, to have an obe or 10 simultaneous dreams that possibly will be shared with people you know:
Gaom-Raom-Om-bour-bu-mama-papa
Would love to have an audio clip of this being done correctly...can never "read" these things the way they are supposed to be spoken....
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« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2007, 09:06:05 » |
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This is what I use to get to the hypnogagic state quickly, so I suppose it would come in handy when using the phasing technique. I lay down on my bed, and look at my ceiling. I start breathing very slow and very deep, as soon as I am accustomed to the slower breathing, I start to breath in six seconds, hold it for six second, and then breath out for six seconds. I didn't pay much attention to breathing exercises stated by others though, because I just tried to find the most comfortable for me, and it works way better. Remember holding your breath too long for comfort can be damaging, so it can be anywhere from three to six (or even more if you like). As I am doing that (still looking at the ceiling in my dim lit room) my sight starts to fade out of focus, and eventually my eyes will want to close. As soon as I feel that, I close my eyes and stop my breathing exercises, but continue to breath slowly, and I continue to breath 'manually'. Which means you have to really feel the breath entering and leaving your lungs. I then shift my focus to my body, and make it feel like it is getting heavier every second. I can actually feel it getting heavier. When I feel that I've reached the max (can't feel any heavier), I take the focus away from my body, and I notice I can now barely feel it. This is when I attempt to see if I can float. I heard a lot of people talk about a technique, where you had to feel yourself above your body. I don't know about other people, but this was a near impossible task in the beginning. Sounds familiar? This is how I solved it. I start knowing (yes knowing, don't attempt and don't visualize, know) that when I breath in, I go upwards, and when I breath out, I go downwards. Now you shouldn't think about how many inches you should go up or down, just know you will feel it. After a few breaths you will feel a slight movement. Keep at it, and before long you will feel yourself go upwards and downwards with every breath. When you feel your 'movement' is steady, know that you every time you go a little higher. For example you rise 10 inches and go down 8 inches. You will then feel that indeed the downward movement will be a little shorter. When that is steady as well, feel that with every breath you are getting further out of your body. Remember, all the time you have to pay attention to your breathing, breath manually! I can't say it will work well for others, but it has reduced the time it takes me to reach the hypnogagic state by 20 minutes! Beyond this I cannot help, as I have yet to have my first OOBE. Good luck. Lastly a short list to make it easier: - Lay down eyes open, breath slowly. - Once accustomed to the breathing, start breathing exercises that work well for you. Breath in X seconds, hold breath X seconds, breath out X seconds. See what works well for you. - Once relaxed close your eyes, keep breathing manually, slowly and deep. - Focus on your body, feel it getting heavy, to the point where you can't get it any heavier. Go slowly. - Take focus away from your body. Know that with every inhale you go up, and with every exhale you go down. Nothing else should be on your mind. I found that if you say "rise up" "float down" to yourself, it's easier to not get distracted. - When you've got a steady motion, know that you go up a little further then you come down. You should feel that the down motion is slightly shorter. - When you feel that steady as well, now know that you are getting a little further away from your body with every breath. Nothing should distract you. I find myself thinking for instance "If I float up any further I'm at the ceiling" and thoughts like that. Try to keep them out, we don't have to mind the ceiling where we are heading (or walls for that matter  ). - Keep doing the previous step, and you will reach the hypnogagic state fast. I'm still figuring out what to do after that myself.
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« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2007, 18:55:56 » |
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Since no one replied... I'm gonna start it  Keep in mind that I am still trying to get out (it's been a yr now). I start by laying down in my bed on my back. I look at the ceiling for about 10 minutes. I concentrate on the radom thoughts that are coming in my head. After 10 minutes, I close my eyes and I get all thoughts out of my head. i imagine my self falling in the dark. I keep falling and falling. eventualy the vibes hit and I imagine my self grabbing a rope on top of my bed and pulling.... So yeah, I use the rope technique to get out. You mean, you have to have a technique? Ah man! That rope technique sound good. Seriously, I have tried that before and it did work. But, it has gotten to the point that I don't need a technique. I guess what led me to that point is trying different things. The most successful is visioning myself as a surfer in Hawaii and everything around me is waves. I don't even have to close my eyes and it happens quicker if I don't. I just cannot be looking at anything until I'm on the wave. Then when I get on the wave and I stand up on the surfboard and I rise above everything. I don't know that it is actually true that when you do that you can appear to somebody else; I haven't got that power. But, what I do is go anywhere that I have seen and it is in my memory. Now, a split-second way that I do 'go out' is just step out the back of my head and shoot straight up and go where I do. What I do is study Google earth maps on my computer and that gives me a memory reference. Of course, it helps if you have been living in the same city for about 42 years or more.
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« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2008, 01:43:24 » |
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The way i get to the astral plain, is i start with a simple meditation. I just close my eyes and close my third eye, so i don't see any energies. After i completed that i focus a small blue spot of energy in the middle of my forehead. After I've done that i release my spirit from my body and go through that blue spot. As I go through it, i enter astral.
Oh one other thing, I am actually from the astral plain ^^.
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« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2008, 21:07:08 » |
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What i do to get the closet I have ever been to an OBE is that before i start i stand In the place that i would like to start of at.. i stand there for a 1-3 minutes and see how it feels to stand there. i Then go sit/lay down some where else. i Than close my eye and Do a Breathing meditaion(inhale through the nose, exhale through the mouth). After that i Imagine(feel like type of imagining) i can Inhale and exhale thoughout my body. After all of that you should feel Totally relaxed  . I dnt get Vibes so i cant tell you what to do if you get them(only time i had Them was when i go to the Dentist and i am given laughing gas[that was when i had my first ever OBE] and those vibes hurted kinda  ). Your entire body should be numb except for your chest(because of your breahting) and head. i than try to get the felling of gravity when you stand up and imagine your start off Place. If you try hard enough you should be able to transfer to the Start off area(Iv gotten there many times but get excited and mess up). when you get to the astral body you may not have sight, so you may have will your astral sight to happen if successful then you have done it! 
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« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2008, 03:25:45 » |
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I noticed when I meditate I put to much effort into trying to project and would fail 90% of the time. So I just lay down and watch the show behind my eyes. I don't try to quiet my mind at all. I lay there without moving and my body feel extremely heavy. After about 30 minutes I get intense vibrations and hold on to them until they are no longer comfortable and then just sit up out of bed. My vibrations always start in my hands and I hear hemi-sync sound a lot of the time as well.
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"the lower, earthly human being and the upper, mystical human being, in which the Godhead is manifested as shape, belong together and are unthinkable without one another."
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« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2008, 03:39:12 » |
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not sure where I read it but I used something that was very useful last night. I wrote a C on my right index finger and every time I would wake up or think to look at it I would. I had 3 obes last night. It worked so well I think I will do it tonight as well.
im new to the forum, and i was interested in that ''c'' method, but the link doesnt work, could i get more info? thanks in advance
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« Reply #99 on: July 27, 2008, 22:37:52 » |
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im new to the forum, and i was interested in that ''c'' method, but the link doesnt work, could i get more info? thanks in advance
It's a reality check. The theory is, write on your hand, go to sleep, and when you wake into the dream, look at your hand. If the c's not there, you know you're dreaming, and you can then change or escape the dream. Of course, you have to remind yourself to check on your hand, preferably do it during the day to get used to it, in the hopes that you'll continue doing it with your dreaming mind.
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« Reply #100 on: July 29, 2008, 01:56:45 » |
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Thank you, Ill try entering an obe through a lucid dream next time I have one!
THANKS AGAIN!!
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« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2009, 23:07:03 » |
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I've been asked for mine; since I can't rewrite mine, I'll just post it again, with more detail. 1-Relaxation exercises, physical (progressive muscle relaxation) and mental- Color breathing. (Breath in different colors, breathe out whatever you like, change colors as you do it, or 'balloon breathing', which is breathing white in, black out. 2-More pranayama- that is, more 'directing the air' breathing exercises, maybe counting, do your own version of it. 3-Energy raising- the full-body circuit, (NEW) or the Microcosmic Orbit (eastern). If you're so inclined, you can work on other more esoteric exercises, like Regardie's techniques. 4-Trance Techniques: Usually the elevator thing, or the air balloon thing, mainly anything that makes you feel like you're going 'up.' After a bit of that, do the opposite, like 'walking down steps counting', or the 'slowly falling leaf' visualization, or any other that makes you feel descent. 5-Energy body loosening- mainly offshoots of 'bounce' techniques, or meditative techs that exteriorize awareness. There are many, google is your friend. 6- At this point you should be fairly tranced. If not, repeat 4 or 5. 7- Go on to 'noticing'. This is where you passively observe the blobs (or lack of them) in front of your eyes. If the mind wants to chatter, let it for a short time, then actively silence it by dividing your attention between between the 'space' in front of your eyes and the earhiss you hear. This tech was invented by a fellow named Birm (or something like that, and he called it the 'Triangle' tech. I thought I had 'discovered' it until someone disabused me of that notion. So hear hear, Birm. At this point you should start to hear 'stuff', or see 'stuff'. If so, you can prepare to phase or have an OBE. If you are having some sort of symptom (vibes, visions) start working on an exit technique (there are many: Rope for vibes, waterski or 'rocking' for the sensation of movement, 'leaning' into or 'rollout' for slow movement- you decide. If no dice, go back to trance techs and energy body loosening. If phasing, 'lean into' the landscape that you are slowing down or making closer.
One of three things should happen. You project, or you fall asleep, or you become awake. If projection happens, give yourself a pat on the back. If you fall asleep, change your schedule. If you wake up, then you need to possibly change your schedule, or do longer relaxation and other preliminary stuff.
Good luck.
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« Reply #102 on: September 26, 2009, 03:18:32 » |
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This may sound silly, but the best technique is need. If you actually need to do something that requires an OOBE to accomplish, you are far more likely to be successful than laying on your bed wishing and hoping.
Necessity also tends to bypass the ritualistic "techniques" that seem to go on endlessly with little or no effect. Unfortunately, OOBE is like a lot of other things--practicing failure is not a good way to succeed. Specifically, there seems to be little point in continuing to "practice" a technique or process that has been a failure for weeks, months, or hundreds of sessions. What, exactly, makes you believe that "today will be the day that it works" when it has failed dozens (or hundreds) of times before?
I know a number of people who are adept at OOBE. In nearly every case, the initial experience resulted from need, not desire--they needed to do something, be somewhere, learn something--impossible under ordinary circumstances. Of that group, not even one was able to achieve OOBE through ritualistic practice of techniques. Further, in years of associating with people who do OOBEs, I have never encountered even one who was able to develop the ability--they either had it or they didn't. If they had it, it could be developed, but if they didn't, all the training and practice in the world can produce little more than a subjective experience impossible to externally validate. Internal experiences are not OOBE.
In that sense, OOBE is a bit like remote viewing; as Joe McMoneagle observed, if a prospective remote viewer doesn't have the ability coming in the door, he or she is unlikely to have it walking out--regardless of how many hours of training and practice are involved.
Does that mean that only a realtively few may be capable of OOBE? I don't have a clue, but it would be an easy conclusion to reach, given the number of people who intensely desire to do it, and the relative few who succeed.
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« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2009, 15:37:43 » |
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Well I think it really blows that Traynor's post is the last one in this thread so I'm posting.
I haven't had a controlled OBE and the two times I've gone OBE I was not using a technique, but I am certain that whatever I did can be replicated. The moment of slipping out is the big mystery for me. The closest I got to getting out consciously was when I first read JOTB by Monroe and I tried his technique for several nights then I had just nodded off and I woke up in the middle of the most intense vibrations I could ever imagine. It scared me beyond all words...And I'm sure that old fear has an effect on my ability to relax fully. I believe any one can do it and that if someone says only a few can then I say it's like trying to figure out how to ride a bicycle by reading a book about it, rather than being able to watch it and have someone show you how its done. Just because it is a tedious process doesn't mean you should give up unless you want to. I know plenty of people who have taught themselves to do this and I know some who do it naturally and are totally freaked out by it.
Just my two cents because I hated for this thread to end on a downer-- No offense intended, Traynor and I do agree with those who say if you are not ready it will not be given to you, at least not in a meaningful fashion, but I don't think it has to be a conscious need to learn that governs the process.
Yours, Beau
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« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2010, 14:51:33 » |
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I use a couple of techniques to get out. First I will say that I have a floating problem. Many OBEers try to float or fly or visualize getting lighter, I can't do that for whatever reason. Even when out of body I can't "fly" easily, but I can bound or jump. Its kind of like walking on a very low gravity planet or moon if you want to imagine that.
Because of this some of the techniques where you visualize floating up or rising don't work for me. I eventually gave up on them after numerous failures. Instead I use the following:
1. Sinking/Lead technique - I've heard shamans use this method, though I have no other info on that than stories. Its simple enough, once you get your body into a super relaxed state with mind awake, imagine yourself being very, very heavy. Sink down through your body, the bed, the ground etc till out. Works pretty well. Though I have had a few experiences where I just kept sinking uncontrollably through I don't know how many layers of rock strata. But usually once down I can redirect myself elsewhere easily and go from there.
2. Rubber Band technique - Once again get into the relaxed body mind awake state. Then I start gently pushing back and forth with the astral body "loosening" it. The trick here is to do so without moving the physical body. Each cycle I push a bit further out so that I'm "rubber banding" back and forth stretching the astral out of the physical and then bouncing back. Eventually I pop out of the physical entirely. This can be used with other techniques too. Rubber band to "loosen", then use another technique to get out. The rubber banding seems to make it easier to get out.
3. Roll out technique - This is a standard which I first read about from Monroe's books. Works but not always.
As for mental projections I've tried that method, but I can't always visualize (as in actually SEE see) where I want to go and thus can't "push forward" to get there. So I have had limited success with that. But I find if I can get out another way I can redirect myself to where I want to go once out anyway.
Also of note is that I find that I can get out using these techniques on the right side of my body. So sink through the right side, or rubber band out of the right side, or roll out of the right side. I have no idea why I have success on the right side, it feels to me like there is some kind of "hole" or negative space there, not sure how to describe it. But I thought Id mention it as users might find that there is a particular direction that works better for them than simply going "out the front" or "top".
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