The Brain method

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by Adrian

Greetings Frank!

With apologies if I have overlooked another post on this, would you mind summarising this latest "Crown Chakra" method of yours from the beginning as a complete working Astral projection method? Also, is this a method for anytime, or is it best to wake up early morning with full relaxation and half trance state and work from there?

An indication as to how long the process takes from start to Astral would be most useful as well - I think some people tend to get frustrated to quickly if things don't happen very quickly. There has also been much discussion on lying position - many people say that OBE is really only possible - reliably at least - while lying on the back rather than the side - this seems quite a common observation.

Also - has this evolved beyond and to supercede your Monroe type phasing method, or are they connnected in some way?

Adrian: What I am currently practicing has evolved out of my Monroe studies. Initially I set out to slow down what was my normal "cannonball exit" by following the Phasing method as taught by Monroe. After a while I did get to the stage where I could go through the phasing transition in a controlled way. Though I still can't just do this at will.

I prefer practicing early morning as it's quieter and my body is refreshed following a night of sleep. As for length of time, it can take anywhere from fifteen minutes to around two hours to get to the requisite state. Typically, results come within 45 mins. Once in that state I generally have two or three projections in succession, with a break inbetween to make notes as necessary.

Normally I lay on my back for projection practice and on my side for sleep. Though in my experience the effectiveness is no different between the two. I just make the distinction as a clear signal to myself as to what is on the agenda: projection-practice or sleep.

As to why some mornings it's like I just fall into it and others it takes me a couple of hours, is a question I've been working on for about two months. Basically, it looks like it just comes down to getting into a working routine followed by lots of practice.

When I first started out on the Phasing route I was trying all kinds of things, from all kinds of angles, to try and work out what Monroe was going on about. Now, I've boiled it all down to just one working routine which I stick to religiously. Since doing that the number of successful attempts has increased significantly.
 
I've said before that I've got no natural talent for any of this, which means it always takes me a lot of time to make progress. So perhaps I'm not the best yardstick to use when it comes to estimating the typical lengths of time people need to practice the various stages before getting results. The Phasing approach I've been practicing virtually every morning for about a year. A practice session I make 1.5 hours minimum. Often I'll extend this but pushing myself too hard I found counterproductive.

My current routine begins with going through the Gateway rundown to Focus 10 and back to C1. Technically, I don't really need the CD anymore as I know it off by heart after listening to it so many times. But I find it has the effect of getting me nicely in the mood, so to speak. Then, upon my return to C1, I'll decide whether or not to begin the session proper.

It may have been that during the CD rundown I was disturbed by something or other and it didn't go according to plan. Maybe I felt the need to use the toilet, or perhaps my wife was a little restless, or whatever. In which case I'll go through the CD rundown again. Note: I found it counterproductive to begin a session that didn't feel good from the start. So if there is a problem then I cancel the session, sort out whatever it is and start afresh.

So, on deciding to progress, I'll got through the rundown to Focus 10 without the CD only this time I'll carry on through to the higher Focus levels. If I don't feel quite right for whatever reason, I'll listen to the CD one more time and then start the session proper.

The past couple of months I've developed a successful deviation from what was my normal Phasing practice; in that I have successfully married elements of my previous Cannonball-Exit to the Phasing process.

I reached the stage where I'd developed a degree of skill that enabled me to make the transition from Physical to Astral with a reasonable degree of predictability. Problem was, comparing my experience with the description Monroe gives of his Physical to Astral transition: the two didn't match. The transition he describes sounded to me more like a combination of the traditional obe-style exit, followed by what I can now recognise as a smooth Phasing to the Astral. Also, quite a number of experiences he describes, for example viewing M-Band radiation fields, sounded very much to me like he was way out in the real-time zone, rather than the Astral proper.

As we know, Monroe originally set-out projecting in the traditional obe sense, and later developed the Phasing concept which he taught at TMI. So this gave me the idea that maybe Monroe's later projection experiences were somehow a cross between his old way and his later developed Phasing concept.

So I set out on the road of trying to take my previous, more traditional-style projection experience, i.e. feelings of vibrations, leaving the body, etc., and marrying them with my recently developed Phasing skills. As it happened, this turned out to be a highly successful step forward in my development.

Yours,
Frank


 


 

[Adrian]

Greetings Frank,

Thanks very much indeed for this excellent insight! Once again you are pioneering techniques that many people here can learn from and apply successfully, either by following your techniques verbatim, or integrating key components into existing routines.

I am making this topic sticky and moving it to Astral Consciousness where it is more appropriate now, so as many people as possible may benefit.

Thanks again.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Gandalf]

Frank_
I tried this method this morning and got a 'throbbing' sensation in my head, however I started getting it in TWO places, one near the top of my skull and the other somewhere in what felt like the right hemisphere!

Which to choose?

Perhaps instead I should focus on my brow chakra, as I feel sensations there quite often, even when I'm not involved in doing any energy work. Sometimes when I lie down to go to sleep I can feel it slighlty as I drift off. As it seems that my brow chakra seems to be naturally more activated in my case, do you think I could achieve astral states simply by working with this?

Also about focusing on the part of the brain - I was trying to 'feel' what part of my brain triggers vibrations. Is this right or do you actually have to move your entire sense of awareness ie your point of view up there; I would find that difficult, but I don't have much of a problem with concentrating on a certain part part of the brain, if that's what you mean.

I'm thinking of firing up the old f27 mp3 soundtrack on my personal stereo again, as this would probably aid this process!

Douglas

[Adrian]

Greetings Gandalf,

quote:Originally posted by Gandalf

Also about focusing on the part of the brain - I was trying to 'feel' what part of my brain triggers vibrations. Is this right or do you actually have to move your entire sense of awareness ie your point of view up there; I would find that difficult, but I don't have much of a problem with concentrating on a certain part part of the brain, if that's what you mean.

I'm thinking of firing up the old f27 mp3 soundtrack on my personal stereo again, as this would probably aid this process!

From what I have seen of the early Monroe methods, focussed at a point somewhere in front by about six inches I think it was. He then spoke about "reaching out for vibrations". Of course, based upon what we know now, "reaching out for vibrations" does not make alot of sense, as the vibrations originate within, but I it seems to me to be all about focussing awareness away from the physical body. Perhaps focussing on the brow chakra and out a few inches might help?

One thing that is extremely consistent waking up early morning to project. Frank will no doubt correct me if I am wrong, but all of his methods involve this in one way or the other. Many methods involve waking early, getting up for 20 or 30 minutes and going back to bed again. This results in a Lucid dream or waking with vibrations.

The reason almost certainly is that the "body asleep" or deeply relaxed condition is absolutely fundamental to all Astral projection,and of course the body is naturally in that state after a night's sleep. After that it is a matter of allowing the body to drift back to sleep, while keeping the mind awake, and I am sure that focussing on the brow, crown and hear chakras is a way to do this.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[x_wolf19]

question....in the NEW energy system tutorials RB suggest that it is not a good idea to stimulate brow or crown chakra on its own as it can cause adverse side effects.....anyone ran into this or have any thought on this?  thanks in advance as I am curious...MBA sounds interesting!

thanks!

[Makaveli]

I get the brain sensation of in my head every time I try and project but I haven't been able to go anywhere with it yet.

[Ash]

i have no problem getting energy sensations in my crown and third eye. I get a sort of heavy dull pain in my crown and sometimes a throbbing in my 3rd eye after only a couple of minutes of doing this, but i've never had any sort of vibrations from it. any suggestions?

[Frank]

I do tend to make clear, where necessary, that I am not into doing any kind of formal "energy work" or "chakra stimulation". Nor am I into any kind of "mystical work".

Plus, I don't want to get into a situation where RB says one thing and I'm saying the opposite. For what would seem, on the surface, to be a direct contradiction probably has a very normal and natural explanation.

All I can say is, after having experienced these vibrations for quite a number of years, I have suffered no ill-effects whatsoever. But it may well be within the context of conducting intensive "energy work" to stimulate one "chakra" more than another could cause some kind of imbalance. I really can't say on that.  

There is also the consideration the vibrations I have talked about in various posts, that I say begin at the crown of my head, may be nothing to do with any kind of "chakra" at all.

It's just that after studying the onset of vibrations very closely (I lost count of the number of times) they do begin from the same area in my head each time. This area is pretty much right about where all the mystical drawings I have seen depict some kind of energy-centre called the Crown Chakra. Plus, all the descriptions point towards this Chakra being a kind of gateway to the Astral realms.

Which is exactly what I experience.

As the vibrations begin, I get a definite sensation of unhooking from the Physical and flying off into the RT-Zone. What seems like a few seconds later I enter the Astral realms. So it's exactly like once the vibrations begin a kind of "gateway" opens. Whereupon I take-off and fly through it.

This process I now know is basically the same as what used to happen with my old "cannonball exit" that I experienced for all those years. Only now, after extensive practice using the Gateway Wave 1 CD (as I posted about at length) I managed to slow the whole thing down to the extent where it all happens with a good degree of predictability and control - pretty much all of the time now.

I still cannot simply project at will. As I do need fairly exacting circumstances to be put in place. But once those circumstances come together, multiple projections come about that are predictable and readily controlled. Basically, I need to be in quiet surroundings where I am mentally fresh with little possibility of interruption. Which for me is early morning.

As regards the crown-chakra situation, my question is, if what I experience is happening not as a result of "crown chakra" stimulation, then what is being stimulated?

Also, it could well be there are varying degrees of stimulation coupled with varying sensations. Though I can say categorically that I never experienced any kind of "pain". I've experienced (and continue to experience) all kinds of very whacky and highly unusual feelings. Which do become rather fun to have, once your protective sense of awareness becomes used to accepting them as being normal. But never anything I could remotely describe as pain.

Yours,
Frank

[metaphysics]

Great reply Frank! Just curious - how did you initiate your cannonball exit? Was it just spontaneous?
All the best,
M

[Ash]

hi Frank,

I found your comments really interesting, because the pain i feel is such a regular effect that I just assumed everyone felt it. You posted last week about acupuncture. Can I ask whether you have felt pain from acupuncture stimulation? I don't mean the pain of sticking needles in your body, of course. I get acupuncure very regularly (I'm a student of chinese medicine) and almost all the time I get a dull ache in and around the site of the needle. This is one of the several possibilities that we learn is a sign of good qi stimulation. It only occurs to me now that perhaps when I feel pain it is a sign of energy moving through a blocked area (as RB says, strong energy sensations indicating blockage). The sensation I get when doing your method (dull, heavy, throbbing pain) is identical to the sensation from acupuncture. I also get the same sensation sometimes when I use NEW on my hands.

What I'm thinking is that this is indicating that I am getting good energy stimulation, but the area is too blocked to fully activate to the point where it will trigger the vibrations and exit. Any thoughts on this?

cheers,
ash

[quebec]

Hi Frank,

I'm working on the "brain method" and could you explain the evolution of the sensations, feelings, up to the projection.

On working the brain as you wrote, (ex: the ping pong ball from temple to temple etc...) I will get a feeling of tighness, or congestion, is that also your experience ?

From there what happens next, step by step ? Where does the feeling of being stroke by a feather comes in ?

This will help in knowing if I'm progessing in the right direction.
Also you lately wrote about the crow area, do you work that area in the same manner as the brow (ping-pong), and does the area of stimulation as to be precise, pin pointed, or just the general area ?

Thank you

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by metaphysics

Great reply Frank! Just curious - how did you initiate your cannonball exit? Was it just spontaneous?
All the best,
M

Originally, it came about from reading Monroe's JOB over 20 years ago. I posted a while back about how I came across this book by chance, and thought the guy was either insane or had caught onto something. I gave it a fair go and, to my surprise, began getting projection symptoms. The cannonball-exit came about as a result.

At the time, I considered this rather violent projection experience to be how it was, so to speak. After all, I didn't know any different. It is only relatively recently I started taking my Astral experiences more seriously and began trying to slow the whole process down to try and make more sense of it.

Yours,
Frank

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by Ash

hi Frank,
I found your comments really interesting, because the pain i feel is such a regular effect that I just assumed everyone felt it. You posted last week about acupuncture. Can I ask whether you have felt pain from acupuncture stimulation?

I'm sorry but I think you might be confusing me with someone else as, to my knowledge, I never posted on acupuncture. Though I do take your point as regards your assumption. With my early cannonball-exit I just assumed that was the way it was.

Unfortunately, as much as I would like to, I cannot really comment with any authority on your other questions as I'm not into doing any kind of energy-work... such as that described in RB's NEW system, for example.

Yours,
Frank

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by quebec

Hi Frank,

I'm working on the "brain method" and could you explain the evolution of the sensations, feelings, up to the projection.

Quebec: To be honest I don't know what the "brain method" is, exactly. Someone else coined the term which seems to have stuck.

A while ago I set off down a road which attempted to find an answer to the question, "Where do the vibrations come from?" They seemed to begin at the head, but with me they'd build in intensity so quickly I had no chance to study them. So I began trying all kinds of techniques to try and somehow ignite these vibrations, but in a controlled way; hence the ping-pong exercise, and a few others, with which I had limited degrees of success.

At the same time, I was working on several imagination-based techniques, coupled with the Gateway Wave-1 CD, which I posted about at length. I developed these techniques to the point where I could fairly reliably Phase from Physical to Astral most mornings - without feeling any kind of vibrations at all. So I forgot about the question of vibrations for a while.  

I thought that my later work had overwritten the older stuff: in much the same way as when you load a newer version of Windows, for example. The new version overwrites the old version to the extent where you can no-longer boot from the old program.

Lately, however, I got curious about the matter of vibrations again after re-reading Monroe's two later books: FJ's and UJ. It struck me that even though Monroe speaks about Phasing, he does describe feeling vibrations as well. So I set-out to try and form a mix between my new-found Phasing skills and my old cannonball-exit.  

My attempts at doing this were surprisingly successful. Now, my projection experience follows pretty much exactly as Monroe describes. Though with nowhere near the same degree of reliability (yet). In Monroe's case he would project with such ease that many times he'd just simply want to sleep instead. (Oh, how I would dearly love to "suffer" this condition!)

Just thinking about experiencing vibrations, while undergoing the Phasing process, flicked a switch somewhere and I began to feel an inkling at first; after which they came back into the projection equation more and more. But somehow my later-developed Phasing skills had completely changed the nature of the way I experienced the vibrations. For a start, they began in a far more controlled way from about the Monroe Focus 21 state. And I discovered also they did in fact come about from a point at the top of the head each time.

From practice, I found I could trace their origins back further. I felt them begin as a tiny mental swooshing feeling like someone just stroked my brain with a feather. Since then, I traced the feeling back further still. The whole process begins with a simple mental "knowing" feeling; then a kind of mental null; then a weird sort of creaking sound; then the feather-stroking feeling.

The length of time at each of these stages can change slightly. I might get two or three mental null feelings, then maybe just one creaking sound, followed by several feather strokes; or just an inkling of a feather stroke, one mental null and several creaking sounds; or whatever combination of the three.

The mental Knowing feeling happens when my physical body has relaxed to the extent where my focal point of awareness has shifted from behind my physical eyes and is now focussed within the expanse of my mind. Though my latest studies do strongly indicate that the reverse is more the case, i.e. the act of shifting my focal point of awareness *is* what causes my physical body to duck-out of the equation. Which is something I've suspected for quite a while. But I've only recently been able to experience the onset of the process slow enough and reliable enough to make any kind of concrete sense of it all.

I found that shifting my focal point of awareness from behind my physical eyes to be the trickiest part in the whole process!!! It still presents me with quite a stumbling block and it's the last major hurdle I need to overcome. Problem is, it doesn't just have to shift: it needs to shift in a particular way. And that's the darned tricky part. Well, for me that is.

quote:
On working the brain as you wrote, (ex: the ping pong ball from temple to temple etc...) I will get a feeling of tighness, or congestion, is that also your experience ?

Not that I can remember.
 

quote:
From there what happens next, step by step ? Where does the feeling of being stroke by a feather comes in ?

This has been covered above. But if you need more info then by all means ask and I'll do my best to explain further.

quote:
This will help in knowing if I'm progessing in the right direction.
Also you lately wrote about the crow area, do you work that area in the same manner as the brow (ping-pong), and does the area of stimulation as to be precise, pin pointed, or just the general area ?

I no-longer use the original exercises. As outlined above, the Gateway work took over. When I recently came to think about vibrations again, they were far more controlled than previously.

Yours,
Frank

[Gandalf]

Concerning the vibrations, it is now my opinion that the vibrations are in fact 'always on' but we are not aware of them. When we shift our point of awareness we slowly become aware of them, they feel more powerful as we focus on them.
I think this is what is happening with 'energy raising' techniques; there actually isnt any 'energy raising' going on as its always there anyway. Instead the technigues are designed to make you more aware of them.
In this way RB and others are not wrong in their ideaas about energy raising and they do work, but they may work in a slightly different way than described.

Regards,
Douglas