Validation thread!

[catmeow]

Wow TalaNay.. that's a nice challenge.  Maybe I'll be able to get over to your desk, if I manage I'll let you know...

Zante.. interesting post, it sounds like you had a good validation there.  Unfortunately many people assume that because you didn't achieve 100% that makes the whole validation worthless.  That's a bit dumb to be honest.  I actually work with a bunch of "IT professionals" and I'm continually amazed at how open-minded they are.  When I do talk about ESP, philosophy etc, I almost invariably get a good hearing and discover many like-thinking colleagues.  It's quite eye-opening in fact.  It's important to be skeptical, but to dismiss out of hand at the first and smallest opportunity is as dim-witted as it is to be a blind believer.  A sense of proportion is called for, and I am seeing more and more of this these days, in the people I meet.

Kraven Obscuria and Spectral Dragon - thanks for the feedback!  Any good validation is worth posting.  I'm thinking of posting some excellent non-OBE validations I've had myself, but I'll leave these for a little while!

[catmeow]

But seeings how I've done some visiting myself, albeit I wasn't trying too, I know it can be done.

Would you like to expand? 

[Nay]

I look forward to everyone giving it a try.  I didn't think I was going to be taken seriously.

As to the validations.  I don't know anymore.  I just don't need them like I used to.  I suppose that's a good thing.  As long as my life continues on the path it's on, that's good enough for me. 

[Zante]

I was going to ask the same thing.

I love to hear about people's experiences, that's what got me interested in the first place.

[Nay]

Would you like to expand? 

I've mentioned them a few times on these very forums but were not noticed at the time.    I will say that I was in contact with the people on a daily basis for awhile and I did not intend to "go" to them but I guess they were just on my mind at the time.

On two occasions I was mearly telling them my dream when they freaked out that I discribed their homes and surroundings.

[kiwibonga]

I am massaging my crystal ball.

I see a desk.

I see miniature garden gnomes.

[Nay]

I am leary about the massaging of your crystal ball....   

However, I do have a desk.  You don't get points for that, I already gave that away.  And no garden gnomes..sorry so, nope..try again.

[Goober]

I think he was joking, lol.

[Nay]

I was hoping no one would joke this time so, I took the comments to be serious. 

I do want to make an amendment to my original criteria and that is....   when I said, "I'll give everyone who wants to have a go two days to give guesses"  to, I'll give everyone who wants to have a go, two days to express on what they see.

[kiwibonga]

I was being semi-serious -- as soon as I read your post, I saw miniature garden gnomes in my mind's eye... I really didn't know where that came from, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to try! But if it were that easy, I'd probably have a lot more validations on my record :p

[tvos]

Ap Friends,

It's been awhile since I've posted my latest validation attempts and tracking. I've been following whole heartdly for the last two years now of my own personal experiences and validations. Your more welcome to view the contents in my web site to listen/read.

I recently conversed with a hard-core skeptic and it was a terrible conversation, to say the least. Purely one tracked minded, not open to the slightest of possibabilities and claimed that NDEs/OBEs were all hullcinations.

It was a good and eye opening experiences because it did give me some good insight on a few things that I needed to add into my FAQs about skeptics. Here it is:

•   What are your thoughts about skeptics and their views?
I totally respect the views of skeptics trying to prove that the out of body experience is false memories, hallucinatory, and generated in the brain. It’s always good to be objective towards this field of study. However, we should keep a open mind and not be quick to judge either. Here’s a near death / out of body experience to consider and seriously think about:
 
Example: How do you explain the near death experience of Pam Reynolds? Under a medical and scientific controlled environment she was able to validate with accuracy during her operation external events outside her body.

During her operation, Pam had no brain activity, no blood, no vital signs for over an hour to remove a tumor. Doctors, Scientists, Skeptics can’t explain this experience but only try to theorize.

So how would a skeptic go about theorizing when experts in the medical / scientific fields can't.

Anyways, as I tracked my own personal success with obe's, I've come to one conclusion that if any skeptic asks "prove it to me". Why should I prove something that I've proved to myself and done the work.
                           
Here are the journal entries on my web site if those who are interested in validations.
   
1   07/14/05   Thursday   3:45 AM   3:52 AM   10:30 AM   10:37 AM   2 Of Hearts   King of Diamonds/8 of Hearts   Jack Of Diamonds   Couldn't Remember   416 to 1 - Validation   07-14-2005 -  Card Verification #1  - Conscoious & False Awakening Projection.Mp3

2   08/11/05   Thursday   11:04 AM   11:35 AM   N/A   N/A   6 of Diamonds   Ace of Spades or Clubs or 4   9 of Clubs   Possibly 4 of Hearts   No Validation   08-11-2005 - Real Rain.Mp3

3   08/11/05   Thursday   11:04 AM   11:35 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Garden City         Validation   08-11-2005 - Real Rain.Mp3

4   08/30/05   Tuesday   9:45 AM   10:14 AM   N/A   N/A   4 of Spades   Ace / 2 Of Diamonds         No Validation   08-30-05 - Higher Level Contact.Mp3

5   09/18/05   Sunday   10:30 AM   10:45 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Hospital         Validation   09-18-2005 - Part II Precognition Retrieval Hospital Astral Projection.Mp3

6   09/27/05   Tuesday   10:40 AM   11:00 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   House in Grandville         Validation   09-27-2005 - Bad Bad Leroy Brown Part II.Mp3

7   10/13/05   Thursday   8:30 AM   8:55 AM   N/A   N/A   3 of Spades   King of Hearts         No Validation   10-13-2005 - The King Of Hearts.Mp3

8   12/04/05   Sunday   2:30 AM   2:37 AM   N/A   N/A   Failed Attempt   Failed Attempt         No Validation   12-04-2005 - Contact II.Mp3

9   12/30/05   Friday   4:14 PM   4:40 PM   N/A   N/A   4 of Diamonds (Red Color)   King of Diamonds/Queen of Hearts (Red Color)          1/2 Verification   12-30-2005 - The King, The Queen and The Four Of Diamonds Red.Mp3

10   01/04/06   Wednesday   12:20 PM   12:26 PM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   House in Grandville         Validation   01-04-2006 - Am I Awake.Mp3

11   01/20/06   Friday   11:30 AM   11:52 PM   4:00 PM   5:00 PM   Eagle Ottawa Work   Sams Club         Validation   01-20-2006 - Sams Club.Mp3

12   02/28/06   Tuesday   8:00 AM   8:30 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   House in Grandville         Validation   01-04-2006 - Am I Awake Part II.Mp3

13   03/02/06   Thursday   7:00 PM   7:30 PM   N/A   N/A   Eagle Ottawa Work   N/A         Validation   03-02-2006 - I Love You!.Mp3

14   04/27/06   Thursday   11:00 AM   11:30 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   House in Grandville         Validation   04-27-2006 - Anniversary.Mp3

15   04/30/06   Sunday   1:30 PM   2:05 PM   N/A   N/A   Mom & Dads House   Mom & Dads House         Validation   04-30-2006 - Finally.Mp3

16   05/21/06   Sunday   10:30 AM   10:56 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Mom & Dads House         Validation   05-21-2006 - Re-Union of Souls.Mp3

17   05/24/06   Wednesday   11:30 AM   12:09 PM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Garden City         Validation   05-24-2006 - 2 for 1.Mp3

18   05/27/06   Saturday   10:00 AM   10:30 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Grandville         Validation   05-27-2006 - VWB-AC.Mp3

19   07/04/06   Tuesday   9:30 AM   10:04 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   West Virginia         Validation   07-04-2006 - Route 49.Mp3

20   08/05/06   Saturday   8:00 AM   8:15 AM   N/A   N/A   Grandville   Garden City         Validation   08-05-2006 - The Dragons Fire.Mp3

21   10/26/06   Thursday   9:00 AM   10:00 AM   2:00 PM   3:00 PM   Wyoming   N/A   Grand Rapids   N/A   Validation   10-26-2006 - City Hall.Mp3

22   11/05/06   Sunday   10:00 PM   10:30 PM   N/A   N/A   Jenison   N/A         Validation   11-05-2006 - Hope BC.Mp3

23   11/06/06   Monday   9:00 AM   9:23 AM   N/A   N/A   Jenison   N/A         Validation   11-06-2006 - Hired.Mp3

24   11/08/06   Wednesday   7:00 PM   8:00 PM   N/A   N/A   Jenison
N/A         Validation   11-08-2006 - Screwed.Mp3

25   11/24/06   Friday   9:30 AM   10:00 AM   N/A   N/A   Jenison   Jenison   Validation   11-24-2006 - Tricked.Mp3

26   12/26/06   Tuesday   7:00 AM   7:15 AM   N/A   N/A   Jenison   Garden CityValidation   12-26-2006 - Artichoke, Artichoke, I Love You!


tvos

[Zante]

I think I'm going to put some more thought into my approach of this (OBEs). I'm going to focus on getting my mind made up so I can make my next decision. I'm prepared to dedicate my life to this if I can get solid verification beyond any doubt whatsoever.

I've been from being a skeptic -> fundamentalist christian -> wishful thinker to being on the verge of finding my personal truth. This is by far the most important thing in my life right now.

If my doubt is false then it will be killed by more experiences.

[Goober]

I've been from skeptic -> fundamentalist christian

How did THAT happen?

[Zante]

How did THAT happen?

My first spontaneous experience scared me into it. It left me very confused

[DH]

The closest thing I have had to a validation was one OB experience that seemed to be a hit by accident.  I had tried several times to direct myself to certain locations and people without any success, at least as far as I could tell.  But on one occasion, I was distressed when I got word about a dear friend I hadn't seen in awhile who quite ill.  She lived in St. Clears.  I went to sleep with her on my mind and awoke sometime later in what I thought was a lucid dream.  Then I realized that I was floating above a cottage or a house that was not clearly in focus, but I could make out a gray building with burgundy trim, and to my amusement, there seemed to be a multicolored pig  on the front porch.  The pig did me in!  I lost it before I could discern anything else or even try to make it inside.  I had no clue where I had been or what I had been looking at, but to make a long story short....I found out later that my sick friend lived in an apartment -- a gray building with burgundy trim.  On her front door was a colorful mosaic door knocker with a boar on it.  I seemed to have made it to my friend's home (from NYC to the UK) without even trying!  Do you supposed it was because I was worried about her and she was on my mind?  DH