Validation thread!

[catmeow]

Hey Jeni, nice validations.  I hope things turned up for you since those days in 2005...!

[Fableflame]

A friend of mine seems to be a natural AP'er.
I told her to project and then think of me to project to me.
She said she could see that i was making motions like i was clicking the mouse on a computer, but I was the only thing in the room that she could see.
She also said that it looked like I was touching my face with my left hand.
At the time of the projection, I was on the computer, using the mouse with my right hand, and biting the nails on my left hand.

[Bellend_1010]

Old original post I know but was thinking if anyone thinking of doing this experiment again at all or is no one willing?

[forynav]

Wow. I just read through all the 11 pages. Quite entertaining! 

[UmmaGumma]

I've had several validations.  But the most validating was the one in which my ex showed up in my OBE.  He has these experiences also, only his are more progressed.  He told me he was going to come and join me sometime.  And he did!  A few days after he appeared in my OBE, my ex came over to my house and asked me if I had seen him.  I told him, "I knew that shadowy figure on the stairs was you!"  I had recognized his silhouette----especially that of his hair!  My ex even told me that at one time when I flew past him that my and his heads had collided.  This had happened when I decided to fly through him instead of past him the second time around.  I flew through him from his neck up.  This is when he and I collided heads!

Another time, I traveled into my son's room and briefly watched as he sat at the computer and watched YouTube videos.  Later, I asked him if he had been watching wrestling videos on YouTube.  He said he had been watching UFC videos on YouTube.  In my book, the same thing!  He must have thought I meant WWE and was specific that it was in fact UFC.  I asked him if it had been wrestling cause I just knew it had been two guys squaring off in a ring.

Another time my ex came over, and as he and I stood outside talking, he nodded toward the direction underneath my upstairs bedroom window and asked me if, a few days earlier, I had traveled out my bedroom window just underneath the spot where he had motioned his head.  Again, I was excited but not shocked to learn that he had seen me.  I told him I had done that very thing because I wanted to scare the neighbor's dog that was always barking and annoying me.

[catmeow]

Thanks UmmaGumma - very good validations and very interesting - I hope you scared the wits out of that pesky dog!!!!  It probably runs a mile now when it sees you!

[traynor]

The best validation I have ever had was the day after a very intense episode of astral sex with a young woman I knew. When I saw her the following day, I started the conversation with, "You know, I had the strangest experience yesterday. I could have sworn you were with me." At that point she began laughing, and described in detail when the event had happened, and what--exactly, and in detail--had happened.

Before that, I had not mentioned the event to anyone else, so there was no possibility of collusion. The details clearly established--to both of us--that for some period of time the previous day, we had been involved in astral sex for an extended period of time.

One thing that may seem surprising. We were both awake at the time. Specifically, we were both physically awake, geographically separated, and at least marginally functional in the "everyday world" while we were also together having astral sex.

This event enabled me to gather a number of similar validations, when I realized that the "walking, talking" part of us is only a part, and that "other parts" of us are able to interact with others in the OOBE state. That is, OOBE is more a case of "getting out of one's own way" rather than learning to do something new. It may be that the key is simply accepting the complexity of our own existence, rather than thinking "I couldn't have been there, because I was reading a book/watching television/walking in the park here at that time. Perhaps the world is not as comfortably linear and sequential as we would like to believe.

[catmeow]

Hmmm think you're making quite a few board members jealous here!  Regarding the staying awake whilst projecting thing, I had a similar experience recently.  My bedside alarm consists of a radio which turns on at 7:30am and stays on for an hour. The station is LBC - a "talk radio" station. So I normally wake up slowly to the news and other discussions. So recently I was woken by the alarm, but was still in hypnagogia. I thought it would be interesting to see if I could project with all this noise going on. In fact I visualised my back garden and phased into it quite easily. So there I was flying around the back garden and sitting on the roof etc whilst listening to Nick Ferrari on LBC wittering on! I could hear the radio quite clearly and at the same time was totally in the back garden flying around. Have to say this required some concentration, so after a while the radio "won" and I woke up in bed.  But it was interesting while it lasted.  Proved that I can project whilst there are noises and disturbances going on in my bedroom...

[Farther]

Has anybody on here tried to do some sort of "meet up" on the astral plane? Say we all agree on a set time, 6pm eastern for example, and try to meet and then write about our experiences. If it would help, maybe we could also envision a 'place' to meet as well? Has anybody on this site tried that yet? I'd love to participate.

[personalreality]

I've never really had any projection related validation experiences.  I tried the playing card thing that RB recommends (i used a tarot card) but when I went to look at it nothing was there.  I had some experiences where I saw my fiance and cats and stuff, but the situation wasn't ever really the same, though one time i saw my fiance studying and when i woke up she was studying.  I don't necessarily think that i saw what was really happening, but a mental metaphor being projected by her energy of what her consciousness was like.  I also think that what I was really doing was telepathically connecting to her energy and reading it in the form of a visual representation.

However, I have had other metaphysical validations that could also imply the validity of projection related issues.  For example, this summer, one of my crystal skulls prescribed a ritual to do when i went to the beach the following week.  The crazy part was that my skull described the location where I was supposed to do the ritual and when I got there is was identical, and I had never been to that part of the beach before.

[CFTraveler]

I'm going to be vague, but there you have my latest:
About two weeks ago my mom (who passed away last February) said a few words to me.  Last week I got some news that confirmed what she said.  I now realize she was warning me.
The details are personal, but that's the gist of it.

[catmeow]

Thanks CFTraveller. I'm sorry to hear of your loss, but I do hope the message you received offered some comfort.

[jeffd]

I've had a number of validations,but I'll post one that had a really deep impact on me.It's on page 39 "Jeff,September 17,2008"  I forgot to mention in the submission that the man's hair was really white in waking reality too,but he used to dye it.

http://dreaminglucid.com/issues/LDE51.pdf

[proyect_outzone]

I had several validations in my live.

Ill begin with some dreams of the future:

1. The green rock. Im a mineral collector and searched for a specific green mineral for several years. I knew this mineral from books, where it was pictured and described in yellow or green (malachite green). But i had a dream of a sample of a neongreen sample (like the green /yellow textmarker). And this sample was in lucite. I wondered about and thought that this dream was funny. Who would be such an idiot to enclose such a mineral in lucite. And i have never seen this mineral color in nature before. But weeks later was again time to go to berin to the big flea markets like every month. Just to look for things which wherent available in my small town. I went to the bank to take money from the cash machine. I took usually 70 Mark with me, but this time i remembered on the dream and took nearly all of my money with. On the flea marked was a new mineral trader with soveniers and geologig memorabilias, like labeled coal pieces and such stuffs. But in  the last row was a block of lucite glowing in the sun. I examined it and where surprised. A neongreen mineral glowed in front of my eyes in the lucite. There was a label under the sample, which removed all my doubts. It was the long sought mineral. I asked for the prize. The dealer sayd 100 Mark and i payd it without waiting any more second. Later i learned, that the color, which i call neongreen, is from others just called yellow. And the mineral looks on old photos also yellow and not neongreen. So i was never able to know, that this or any mineral could have the neongreen color. This mineral is even today one of my most important mineral samples.

2. A piece of ocean. I had an strange dream. I found a piece of the ocean. It was hard and glassy. In it wheere some corals, shells and a crab. On the black seebed where some kind of magic or mystic looking waves. But these waves dissappeared and it looked usual black. Some time later i found a piece lucite. Hardly damaged and scratched, with a crab, shells and corals. But no waves. But i looked unfocused through the scratched surface. some glittering particels where reflecting and there reflections are warped by the scratches to a wave like pattern. And if i looked focused, the waves dissappeared.   

I had some more Dreams like these. But they will follow later. Now its time for my OBEs.

1. OBE of the future. I should mention first, that my parents didnt know anything about my OBEs and activity in such Forums at this time. I had tryed since a year hardly to get my first OBE. I was active in a forum since some months and the users told me what to do. But nothing helped. But on this day was it different. I had my first OBE. It was a chain of several short OBEs, from which one was really strange. I woke up in this OBE and my father was looking at me. He asked me "are you ill? You got there something on your head.". I was frightened dure his sudden appearing and woke up. I looked around, no father, no light. I continued the chain of OBEs and was very happy. Next day i told about in the forum and placed it also onto my homepage. Then some weeks later at a common evening. I was trying again to archive an OBE. I was in beyond sleep paralysis and my thoughts where shut off. Then i was roused by my father. He asked me "are you ill? You got there something on your head.". It was like in the OBE.

2. OBEs are really out of the body: This OBE was a false awakening.

I waked up and wanted to go to toilet. I went through the opened door of my bedroom and became then a nausea/dizziness and fell down. After that i realized, that i was in an OBE. Then i went in the next room and i saw a fog "going" along. I focused on it, and it sharpens. A astral beeing. I was scared. It was a black men, who talked then with me. He said, he died in an barbecue accident. He had even still an sausage on his hat. Was some kind of funny.

After a few weeks i had  some OBEs, where i penetrated matter. I remembered the nausea/dizzy feeling and this OBE. The nausea and dizziness which i became in this times was the same.

Then i realized: The nausea/dizziness of the door passing OBE was caused, because i passed a closed physical door (I got always my door closed while i sleep) while only the astral image of the door was opened. And this, while i believed to be awake and on the way to toilet and so not able to know that i pass matter while beeing out of body.